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The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - Machiavelli - 05-29-2014 12:18 AM
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133.html#.U4bBjijyfO4
comments.
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - DaSaintFan - 05-29-2014 12:36 AM
The only flaw i see in this, Mach.. The article claims that the evangelic wing came about because of Weyrich. Whereas later in the article there's a line in there where it states the evangelic arm didn't even make in-roads until Schaeffer stepped up.
Quote:Schaeffer, considered by many the intellectual godfather of the religious right, was not known for his political activism, but by the late 1970she decided that legalized abortion would lead inevitably to infanticide and euthanasia, and he was eager to sound the alarm.
I can see the debate that Roe v. Wade wasn't the initial driving point, but I'd dispute that it was the key foundation when the evangelic wing of the party came about.
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - Machiavelli - 05-29-2014 06:53 AM
The part that I found interesting was the rise of private schools when desegregation came about. We are fighting the ramifications of that today. Both sides have merit too. Public schools are being flipped on their heads because of these standardized tests trying to bring a certain level up to a certain speed.
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - Machiavelli - 05-29-2014 07:05 AM
We had our state scores come back this week. 3 kids were below standard in all of my classes. Tops in my county and pretty high in the state. Every kid counts 2.27% for me. (Take that Bearcat Dale!) So just to show you the folly of this. One of the kids who didn't pass came into our district from Florida. A military school in Florida. He has a 2nd grade reading level. He ran away last year and lived in the Everglades for a couple of months on his own. An Indian tribe took him in. I'm not freaking kidding you. This is what public school teachers are dealing with. I also have a Down's kid in my class and two kids below an 80 IQ. You get to exempt 1 special ed kid a year for your ranking. I put the Downs kid on the inactive list in this rotation. I don't have the answers but I can tell you what we are dealing with today the teachers of yesterday would have striked over. They would have shut the system down.
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - Bull_In_Exile - 05-29-2014 07:30 AM
(05-29-2014 06:53 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: The part that I found interesting was the rise of private schools when desegregation came about. We are fighting the ramifications of that today. Both sides have merit too. Public schools are being flipped on their heads because of these standardized tests trying to bring a certain level up to a certain speed.
The rise also came not too long after the advent of the dept of Ed...
![[Image: correlation.png]](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/correlation.png)
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - Machiavelli - 05-29-2014 07:32 AM
Cute cartoon.
RE: The real origins of the religious right. Good Read. - DrTorch - 05-29-2014 08:05 AM
(05-29-2014 12:36 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: The only flaw i see in this, Mach.. The article claims that the evangelic wing came about because of Weyrich. Whereas later in the article there's a line in there where it states the evangelic arm didn't even make in-roads until Schaeffer stepped up.
Yeah, this guy is playing fast and loose w/ the facts. See my comments to dmac about revisionist history.
Since I was actually there during this time period, I can say that that this article is flawed, and picked the data it wanted.
What really spurred the religious right was the rampant sexuality of the '60s, and consequent high divorce rates of the '70s. That's when Dobson really got solid traction, and he had a big influence on the anti-abortion movement. He also accidentally sparked the home-school movement (which up to then was a badge of leftist academics who didn't like the pro-US curriculum in the public schools).
Up until then the evangelicals had been wasting their time debating eschatology.
I'm a pretty big fan of Schaffer, and his work was also influential but had taken many years to percolate up through many of the eventual leaders. So again, this author's timeline is off when you dig deeper.