(02-18-2013 10:41 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  There are a lot of strange rumors going around about who will get invited to the league and how many will join the C7.

Lets just agree right off the bat that with what we are hearing 10 is not an option. It's 12 or 14 and that is from multiple sources.

Okay we all know who the shoe in's are. Butler and Xavier. No need to rehash them. I don't even think Stever can disagree with me on this one.

Next we have the ones listed by many sources but all have some flaws. Not a lot but not the slam dunks as the first 2, but still considered by many as near definite. St. Louis and Creighton.

Then we have those who could very well end up in if we go to 14 and on the verge of being left out if we go to 12. Dayton, VCU, Richmond.

We have one that would be a slam dunk but has one big problem and really only have a shot with the more we invite. Gonzaga.

We have a few who would be good add's but have more flaws or blemishes than those above them and hence less likely of an invite. Wichita St, St. Mary's, any FBS school (UConn, Cincy, Memphis, BYU, UMass).

Now we have the "WTF?" names that have been thrown out. Detroit, Siena, Fordham, Duqsene (sp?), Holy Cross.

Does everyone agree with this list? Anyone have ideas of their own?

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

(02-18-2013 10:41 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  There are a lot of strange rumors going around about who will get invited to the league and how many will join the C7.

Lets just agree right off the bat that with what we are hearing 10 is not an option. It's 12 or 14 and that is from multiple sources.

Okay we all know who the shoe in's are. Butler and Xavier. No need to rehash them. I don't even think Stever can disagree with me on this one.

Next we have the ones listed by many sources but all have some flaws. Not a lot but not the slam dunks as the first 2, but still considered by many as near definite. St. Louis and Creighton.

Then we have those who could very well end up in if we go to 14 and on the verge of being left out if we go to 12. Dayton, VCU, Richmond.

We have one that would be a slam dunk but has one big problem and really only have a shot with the more we invite. Gonzaga.

We have a few who would be good add's but have more flaws or blemishes than those above them and hence less likely of an invite. Wichita St, St. Mary's, any FBS school (UConn, Cincy, Memphis, BYU, UMass).

Now we have the "WTF?" names that have been thrown out. Detroit, Siena, Fordham, Duqsene (sp?), Holy Cross.

Does everyone agree with this list? Anyone have ideas of their own?

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

(02-18-2013 11:37 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

That would be interesting. I hope the Blue Jays aren't left out in the cold.

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

(02-18-2013 11:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

The problem I see with this is doing it after the final four. I mean, let's say Creighton with their great player gets on a run and makes the final four. Or Gonzaga or VCU? It to me would give us bad press to announce addition of teams after the final four, when very viable team is in our reach and we don't add them and they just made the final 4.

(02-18-2013 11:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

I think this is right. The schools are dead set to keep schools that fit a certain profile and that doesn't include public schools. I suspect Georgetown is in charge and they likely deserve to be.

Creighton is a great add but I think the schools want to maintain schools that the can reach by bus within the division to keep travel costs low and Creighton to too far away to bus for many in the west.

(02-18-2013 11:47 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

I think this is right. The schools are dead set to keep schools that fit a certain profile and that doesn't include public schools. I suspect Georgetown is in charge and they likely deserve to be.

Creighton is a great add but I think the schools want to maintain schools that the can reach by bus within the division to keep travel costs low and Creighton to too far away to bus for many in the west.

1. No one school is in charge.

2. There will NOT be divisions.

3. Travel will be the same as they already have. UC/Xavier, ND/Butler, USF/St. Louis/Creighton.

(02-18-2013 11:58 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:47 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

I think this is right. The schools are dead set to keep schools that fit a certain profile and that doesn't include public schools. I suspect Georgetown is in charge and they likely deserve to be.

Creighton is a great add but I think the schools want to maintain schools that the can reach by bus within the division to keep travel costs low and Creighton to too far away to bus for many in the west.

1. No one school is in charge.

2. There will NOT be divisions.

3. Travel will be the same as they already have. UC/Xavier, ND/Butler, USF/St. Louis/Creighton.

Maybe they are trying to improve travel. Creighton from a logistical standpoint is a pretty big outlier. They just are.

Providence to Tampa was 1358 miles
Providence to Omaha is 1421 miles
Providence to St Louis is 1158 miles

So this will make the max trip for Providence 200 miles less instead of 70 miles more. big difference there.

(02-19-2013 12:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  It's not just mens basketball. It's everything. That adds up.

(02-19-2013 12:36 AM)HoyaAnt Wrote:  There has been reports saying that Gonzaga wants in and it will be no problem for them traveling since they have their own plane. If they can manage to join the New Conference for Basketball only and place their other sports lets say in the Sun Belt Conference, then we have to take them. Getting Gonzaga makes up for losing Syracuse and helps makes the new conference very strong right off the bat. The other teams would only need to travel out west once a year and it would certainly help with recruiting out west too. Getting Butler will help offset the lost of Louisville and Xavier replaces Cincy. My thing is, we have one shot on getting this right off the start. In my opinion, we need to identify strong Basketball programs that will make our new conference as strong as any in the Nation. We need Gonzaga, VCU, Butler, Xavier, and Perhaps St. Louis or Creighton as part of the first 12 for the new conference.

(02-19-2013 12:36 AM)HoyaAnt Wrote:  There has been reports saying that Gonzaga wants in and it will be no problem for them traveling since they have their own plane. If they can manage to join the New Conference for Basketball only and place their other sports lets say in the Sun Belt Conference, then we have to take them. Getting Gonzaga makes up for losing Syracuse and helps makes the new conference very strong right off the bat. The other teams would only need to travel out west once a year and it would certainly help with recruiting out west too. Getting Butler will help offset the lost of Louisville and Xavier replaces Cincy. My thing is, we have one shot on getting this right off the start. In my opinion, we need to identify strong Basketball programs that will make our new conference as strong as any in the Nation. We need Gonzaga, VCU, Butler, Xavier, and Perhaps St. Louis or Creighton as part of the first 12 for the new conference.

(02-18-2013 11:15 PM)Title Wrote:  Take this completely for what it worth. I got this second hand this evening, so you know how that goes. But to tell you the truth, this particular person has never steered me wrong in the few times he's said something to me. In fact, last time, he told me a full week before the public was informed about an injury.

I was told: Butler, Xavier, SLU, Dayton, and Richmond. Public after Final Four.

Again, completely FWIW

(02-19-2013 12:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 12:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  It's not just mens basketball. It's everything. That adds up.

I know, but the commitment to BBall is what makes us all more money. This is prob why 14 has started to come into play. I think some presidents want different schools and the compromise might be just to add 7 and get them all in.