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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 12:17 AM)Prideofalion Wrote: That was painful. La Tech athletic though. Gotta give them a little credit. Caver is gonna be off sometimes. He still plays a good floor game. Haynes needs to wake up now to have a shot tomorrow. He was bad. That’s 2 in a row stinkers for him. He’s had a helluva year so I’ll give him benefit of the doubt. At least he only shot 4 times and didn’t throw up bricks all night. We can do this ! U got this boys. Go Monarchs!
Dave T made a comment last week during one of the games that Haynes changed his shot a few weeks back and now kicks his legs out to the side on his jump now for some reason. He commented on how that looks so awkward and makes no sense to change at the end of the season. Not sure what's going on there.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 07:22 AM)ODU804 Wrote: (03-09-2018 12:17 AM)Prideofalion Wrote: That was painful. La Tech athletic though. Gotta give them a little credit. Caver is gonna be off sometimes. He still plays a good floor game. Haynes needs to wake up now to have a shot tomorrow. He was bad. That’s 2 in a row stinkers for him. He’s had a helluva year so I’ll give him benefit of the doubt. At least he only shot 4 times and didn’t throw up bricks all night. We can do this ! U got this boys. Go Monarchs!
Dave T made a comment last week during one of the games that Haynes changed his shot a few weeks back and now kicks his legs out to the side on his jump now for some reason. He commented on how that looks so awkward and makes no sense to change at the end of the season. Not sure what's going on there.
Hes always had a weird disconnect betweem upper and lower body
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 07:44 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-09-2018 07:22 AM)ODU804 Wrote: (03-09-2018 12:17 AM)Prideofalion Wrote: That was painful. La Tech athletic though. Gotta give them a little credit. Caver is gonna be off sometimes. He still plays a good floor game. Haynes needs to wake up now to have a shot tomorrow. He was bad. That’s 2 in a row stinkers for him. He’s had a helluva year so I’ll give him benefit of the doubt. At least he only shot 4 times and didn’t throw up bricks all night. We can do this ! U got this boys. Go Monarchs!
Dave T made a comment last week during one of the games that Haynes changed his shot a few weeks back and now kicks his legs out to the side on his jump now for some reason. He commented on how that looks so awkward and makes no sense to change at the end of the season. Not sure what's going on there.
Hes always had a weird disconnect betweem upper and lower body
He did, but it hasn't been this bad. The past three games, it has been really bad.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
Flying V. Flying A. Something like that. Definitely funky. Hope his shots land. It's all mental for him, we know he can do it.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
Why would he do that? Why would the coaches allow him to do that? Makes no sense. I thought there were shots last night that he normally would take that he passed up. We need him for more than long arms and defense.
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757ODU
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 08:55 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: Why would he do that? Why would the coaches allow him to do that? Makes no sense. I thought there were shots last night that he normally would take that he passed up. We need him for more than long arms and defense.
Honestly, I don't know the answer to this question. I have been back and forth with it. Twardzik definitely said something to Jones about it, but Jones may not want to mess with it during the tournament.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-08-2018 11:33 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote: (03-08-2018 11:32 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-08-2018 11:30 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote: (03-08-2018 11:30 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-08-2018 11:24 PM)T-Mac Wrote: I wonder if MTSU fires their coach?
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Really dude? Aren't you one of the posters that complains about the people complaining about Jones?
Obviously he was joking...
HA...OK. Whatever you say.
He definitely was. idk who took it seriously
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Lighten up, Francis!
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 08:55 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: Why would he do that? Why would the coaches allow him to do that? Makes no sense. I thought there were shots last night that he normally would take that he passed up. We need him for more than long arms and defense.
Im not sure you mess with someones shooting stroke in the middle of a tourney. Injury? I'm not sure the right answer.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
Man...I like AC and he is a great person, but he is a liability on the floor. He is basically a worse defender, rebounder, and passer than Denzel Taylor was. Hopefully next year our freshman are ready to step in and play because AC needs to be limited to about 5-7 minutes per game.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:08 AM)757ODU Wrote: Man...I like AC and he is a great person, but he is a liability on the floor. He is basically a worse defender, rebounder, and passer than Denzel Taylor was. Hopefully next year our freshman are ready to step in and play because AC needs to be limited to about 5-7 minutes per game.
Huh?
Denzel Taylor was a pretty solid rebounder and defender (definitely a better rebounder though). Being worse than him doesn't really say much.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:17 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: (03-09-2018 11:08 AM)757ODU Wrote: Man...I like AC and he is a great person, but he is a liability on the floor. He is basically a worse defender, rebounder, and passer than Denzel Taylor was. Hopefully next year our freshman are ready to step in and play because AC needs to be limited to about 5-7 minutes per game.
Huh?
Denzel Taylor was a pretty solid rebounder and defender (definitely a better rebounder though). Being worse than him doesn't really say much.
I think the point is he is just as bad offensively and isn't even as good defensively and on the glass.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:08 AM)757ODU Wrote: Man...I like AC and he is a great person, but he is a liability on the floor. He is basically a worse defender, rebounder, and passer than Denzel Taylor was. Hopefully next year our freshman are ready to step in and play because AC needs to be limited to about 5-7 minutes per game.
Carver is also a sophomore that still has 2 years to improve. He's never going to be a threat offensively, I don't think, but he's a solid defender and rebounder. He doesn't hurt the team if he's in the game with guys that can score.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
Well, they tried him om Johnson in ORF and it wasn't pretty
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
I've never been impressed with Carver either.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:24 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: Well, they tried him om Johnson in ORF and it wasn't pretty
OTOH, he really made a difference guarding King in that matchup. I think Johnson is too good on the perimter for him.
And don't forget Taylor was an absolute turnover machine. WHile Carver isn't the most sure handed guy, he turns the ball over a lot less.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
I agree regarding Johnson vs Carver
Denzel also had the ball in his hands a hell of a lot more than AC
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:35 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: I agree regarding Johnson vs Carver
Denzel also had the ball in his hands a hell of a lot more than AC
Yeah, but still turned it over almost 30% of the time.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-08-2018 11:28 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the tourney was re-seeded after each round?
We'd get usm and Marshall and wku could run each other ragged.
The inverse of that is Southern Miss is hot and their seed is no longer relevant. So it's probably better, but in tournaments you just don't ever know.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:20 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: (03-09-2018 11:17 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: (03-09-2018 11:08 AM)757ODU Wrote: Man...I like AC and he is a great person, but he is a liability on the floor. He is basically a worse defender, rebounder, and passer than Denzel Taylor was. Hopefully next year our freshman are ready to step in and play because AC needs to be limited to about 5-7 minutes per game.
Huh?
Denzel Taylor was a pretty solid rebounder and defender (definitely a better rebounder though). Being worse than him doesn't really say much.
I think the point is he is just as bad offensively and isn't even as good defensively and on the glass.
Correct. Denzel left teams the ability to hedge and trap because he wasn’t effective. It also allowed them to double to post with both big men. Denzel was a great defender and and incredible offensive rebounder. AC is decent at both, but not anywhere close to where Taylor was.
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RE: MBB: #2 ODU vs #10 La Tech CUSAT 2nd Round
(03-09-2018 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-09-2018 11:24 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: Well, they tried him om Johnson in ORF and it wasn't pretty
OTOH, he really made a difference guarding King in that matchup. I think Johnson is too good on the perimter for him.
And don't forget Taylor was an absolute turnover machine. WHile Carver isn't the most sure handed guy, he turns the ball over a lot less.
Taylor handled the ball way more than Carver. Considering Taylor played 900+ minutes each season and was our best hi/lo passer, his TO numbers weren't as bad as you are trying to make them out to be.
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