oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 09:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-02-2024 04:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-02-2024 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote: (10-02-2024 01:42 PM)VA49er Wrote: Yep, some on here fail to realize that the "fact checking" has only gone one way for a long time now.
Democrats lie. Nobody fact checks.
Republicans tell an inconvenient truth. Media "fact checks" by telling a lie.
I find it interesting that folks get angry and put out by fact checking. I would think most would welcome actual facts in the discourse.
Well, when the "fact checkers" constantly lie, it's pretty clear. But, some aren't smart enough to grasp it.
Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh?
Make a list of network news lies?
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tanqtonic
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 10:20 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 09:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-02-2024 04:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-02-2024 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote: Democrats lie. Nobody fact checks.
Republicans tell an inconvenient truth. Media "fact checks" by telling a lie.
I find it interesting that folks get angry and put out by fact checking. I would think most would welcome actual facts in the discourse.
Well, when the "fact checkers" constantly lie, it's pretty clear. But, some aren't smart enough to grasp it.
Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh? 
Make a list of network news lies? 
I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 09:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-02-2024 04:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-02-2024 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote: (10-02-2024 01:42 PM)VA49er Wrote: Yep, some on here fail to realize that the "fact checking" has only gone one way for a long time now.
Democrats lie. Nobody fact checks.
Republicans tell an inconvenient truth. Media "fact checks" by telling a lie.
I find it interesting that folks get angry and put out by fact checking. I would think most would welcome actual facts in the discourse.
Well, when the "fact checkers" constantly lie, it's pretty clear. But, some aren't smart enough to grasp it.
Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
Don't know if it was in one of their fact checks or not, but I read where they said something like Iran was 2 weeks away from having nuclear weapons or something like that. That is wildly inaccurate. I believe where they are at, that it takes two weeks just to refine uranium for a bomb...but that they are not near having a delivery system for it.
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 10:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:20 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 09:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-02-2024 04:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: I find it interesting that folks get angry and put out by fact checking. I would think most would welcome actual facts in the discourse.
Well, when the "fact checkers" constantly lie, it's pretty clear. But, some aren't smart enough to grasp it.
Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh? 
Make a list of network news lies? 
I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
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tanqtonic
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:20 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 09:37 AM)oruvoice Wrote: Well, when the "fact checkers" constantly lie, it's pretty clear. But, some aren't smart enough to grasp it.
Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh? 
Make a list of network news lies? 
I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:20 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:09 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: Care to point out the lies in the facts presented in the facts checks in the just recent fact checks? Please, be specific.
I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh? 
Make a list of network news lies? 
I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
There are hundreds of examples. Literally hundreds. I would tell you to research it, but the TRUTH is you already know these things. You are just broken by your TDS. Not that you're honestly interested, because you aren't, but here's one of the MANY.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/ho...rump-lies/
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tanqtonic
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:20 AM)oruvoice Wrote: I guess you didn't watch the debate, huh? 
Make a list of network news lies? 
I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
There are hundreds of examples. Literally hundreds. I would tell you to research it, but the TRUTH is you already know these things. You are just broken by your TDS. Not that you're honestly interested, because you aren't, but here's one of the MANY.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/ho...rump-lies/
Ill retype, oru. Please read:
Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 11:54 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 10:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: I will take that as either you cannot, or will not. You could have just as easily typed that.
Or simply dodge as you do above. Imagine that.
Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
There are hundreds of examples. Literally hundreds. I would tell you to research it, but the TRUTH is you already know these things. You are just broken by your TDS. Not that you're honestly interested, because you aren't, but here's one of the MANY.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/ho...rump-lies/
Ill retype, oru. Please read:
Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You know the answer. I'm not playing word games with a phony.
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tanqtonic
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 12:17 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:54 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote: Example #9,472 why trying to have an honest discussion with you is utterly pointless.
I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud.
Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
There are hundreds of examples. Literally hundreds. I would tell you to research it, but the TRUTH is you already know these things. You are just broken by your TDS. Not that you're honestly interested, because you aren't, but here's one of the MANY.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/ho...rump-lies/
Ill retype, oru. Please read:
Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You know the answer. I'm not playing word games with a phony.
That was the question I asked from the start, oru.
But awesome dodge. A non-answer, and a name call. Yep, just according to script. Lol.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2024 12:28 PM by tanqtonic.)
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 12:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 12:17 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:54 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: Maybe put some facts where your generalized rhetoric typically serves as the nothing but the truth for you.....
Or just evade, dodge, and blame everyone else as seems to be your normal approach.
Yeah, I think a real major reason why a discussion involving you is utterly useless, is that beyond your grab bag rhetoric rich comments, you simply evade, dodge, and blame everyone else when it comes down to pressing you on your rhetoric rich comments.
You: The "fact checkers" constantly lie.
Me: Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You: I guess you didn't watch the debate (some rando 7th grade name calling evasion attached HERE)
Lolz.
As for the bolded, I have never said that. Please tell us where I have. That is the problem with ****** rhetoric not based in fact, oru. Somehow that lesson evades you.
There are hundreds of examples. Literally hundreds. I would tell you to research it, but the TRUTH is you already know these things. You are just broken by your TDS. Not that you're honestly interested, because you aren't, but here's one of the MANY.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/ho...rump-lies/
Ill retype, oru. Please read:
Care to share the lies in the fact checks on Tuesday? Be specific.
You know the answer. I'm not playing word games with a phony.
That was the question I asked from the start, oru.
But awesome dodge. A non-answer, and a name call. Yep, just according to script. Lol.
I understand that was the question you asked. And like you, I know that you already knew the answer.
Like I keep saying...you are a phony. And btw, "phony" isn't name-calling if it's true. It's like me calling a certain poster fat. It isn't name-calling. It's just an observation.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2024 12:37 PM by oruvoice.)
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Mr_XcentricK
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
ORU: I am focused on the future
Tanq: that’s a damning non-answer
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
"I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
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shere khan
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 01:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: "I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
Nah. They are just knuckleheads, they dont l
ie.
FFS
Filth
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 01:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: "I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
Tanq knows. He's a phony, but he's not stupid.
Mr. X, Tom, Kruciff, and a few others are just low IQ. I have more respect for the dumb ones, because they can't help it.
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shere khan
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 01:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: "I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
Tanq knows. He's a phony, but he's not stupid.
Mr. X, Tom, Kruciff, and a few others are just low IQ. I have more respect for the dumb ones, because they can't help it.
They are damaged.
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Mr_XcentricK
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 01:11 PM)shere khan Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: "I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
Tanq knows. He's a phony, but he's not stupid.
Mr. X, Tom, Kruciff, and a few others are just low IQ. I have more respect for the dumb ones, because they can't help it.
They are damaged.
Badge of honor from this group.
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oruvoice
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RE: CBS announces VP debate rules, candidates will 'fact-check' each other, moderators 'r
(10-03-2024 01:13 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:11 PM)shere khan Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (10-03-2024 01:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: "I know all the lies of the media about Trump. You know them too. But, your unwilligness to admit it makes meaningful conversation with you, impossible. For someone to say, "the media just tells the truth about Trump", shows that they are either sub-80 or a fraud." Oru
That's the sad part, they believe all the lies the lying MSM throws at them. Some are paid to believe them, some are just plain gullible. Like when I told a lady that QueMala was a marxist she almost had a conniption because she believes everything the lying MSM tells them.
Tanq knows. He's a phony, but he's not stupid.
Mr. X, Tom, Kruciff, and a few others are just low IQ. I have more respect for the dumb ones, because they can't help it.
They are damaged.
Badge of honor from this group. 
You're welcome.
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