(10-04-2024 07:33 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So much for all that big talk from the NY union boss. They end up doing what "The Party" tells them to do. The dock owners need to bring in the automation now through Jan 15 since no contract is in place.

How so? They are getting a 61.5% raise.

(10-04-2024 07:44 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-04-2024 07:33 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So much for all that big talk from the NY union boss. They end up doing what "The Party" tells them to do. The dock owners need to bring in the automation now through Jan 15 since no contract is in place.

How so? They are getting a 61.5% raise.

No, they haven't. They are still negotiating that. The automation thing is still on the table and most likely will never happen because it is stupid to not get into the 21st century.

(10-04-2024 09:01 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(10-04-2024 07:44 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-04-2024 07:33 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So much for all that big talk from the NY union boss. They end up doing what "The Party" tells them to do. The dock owners need to bring in the automation now through Jan 15 since no contract is in place.

How so? They are getting a 61.5% raise.

No, they haven't. They are still negotiating that. The automation thing is still on the table and most likely will never happen because it is stupid to not get into the 21st century.

The article I read this morning said that they agreed on a 61.5% raise over 6 years. Now they will negotiate the other parts of the deal. This was all about the money as I think they recognize that automation is going to come no matter what.

now we can all get through the election and christmas without this being an anchor...its just another can we have kicked to the side of the road

(10-04-2024 09:45 AM)solohawks Wrote:  now we can all get through the election and christmas without this being an anchor...its just another can we have kicked to the side of the road

Depends on who wins the election.

If the Dems win, they'll keep working.

If Trump wins, they'll go back on strike and destroy the Trump economy.

Regardless of your politics it’s good that the strike is over

(10-04-2024 11:33 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Regardless of your politics it’s good that the strike is over

For now. They are going to revisit it on January 15

(10-04-2024 07:05 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-04-2024 05:38 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  One thing it will have amajor impact on in NC is residential building. Most of the spruce that hones are framed with comes from Europe. SYP isn't as prevalent as most people think. At least this delay will allow us to source more SYP and find more domestic lumber supplies from Canada.

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That's shocking to me. You'd figure with the sheer volume of trees in the U.S. and Canada there'd be no reason to import lumber from Europe - a continent that consumed most of their forests during the industrial revolution.

Would you be shocked to learn that at the very beginning of covid a handful of lumber mills in the US and Canada that produced dimensional lumber burned to the ground and weren't rebuilt?

Much of the southeastern timber goes into soft-goods. Paper towels, toilet paper, paper products, shavings for veneers and pressboard. A good bit of NC wood is chipped up and shipped out of the local ports onto factory ships that then return a pressboard product.