RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
He is mostly neutral on the show.
You are correct on every point you made.
Network News continues to erode and overall his numbers are still down.
I’m sure it doesn’t help that 3/4 of Americans don’t trust or rely on MSM
In a country of 300 million plus on a major network and you are getting roughly 2% viewership. Weak at best.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 07:59 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
He is mostly neutral on the show.
You are correct on every point you made.
Network News continues to erode and overall his numbers are still down.
I’m sure it doesn’t help that 3/4 of Americans don’t trust or rely on MSM
In a country of 300 million plus on a major network and you are getting roughly 2% viewership. Weak at best.
NBC with Lester Holt is a disaster in comparison.
Quote:'cause it's da ______, that's a fact
'cause it's da ______, and they're suckin' muh sac
'cause it's da ______, what a game
'cause it's da ______, ain' got no shame
'cause it's da ______!
set to this jingle, explains it every.single.time. ....
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 10:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote: Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
Dude, you're pushing to become a part of my dustbin here.
And you're misrepresenting things on her fracking too. She spoke on fracking when she was running for president back in 2019 and 2020. As VP, I doubt she was ever even asked about it as a VP has nothing to do with it. But many peoples views on fracking have changed. Mine has. I was against until I read more on it and also that the industry has shown that it's pretty safe.
She says she won't ban it. And regardless, she can only do it on federal lands. Most of it is done on private land, to the tune of about 90%.
And this goes to a broader point...trump just didn't lie about something like a nuanced policy position, HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS, AND PETS!!! Additionally, the Haitians in Springfield AREN'T ILLEGALS!
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
Dude, you're pushing to become a part of my dustbin here.
And you're misrepresenting things on her fracking too. She spoke on fracking when she was running for president back in 2019 and 2020. As VP, I doubt she was ever even asked about it as a VP has nothing to do with it. But many peoples views on fracking have changed. Mine has. I was against until I read more on it and also that the industry has shown that it's pretty safe.
She says she won't ban it. And regardless, she can only do it on federal lands. Most of it is done on private land, to the tune of about 90%.
And this goes to a broader point...trump just didn't lie about something like a nuanced policy position, HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS, AND PETS!!! Additionally, the Haitians in Springfield AREN'T ILLEGALS!
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 11:52 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote: That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
Dude, you're pushing to become a part of my dustbin here.
And you're misrepresenting things on her fracking too. She spoke on fracking when she was running for president back in 2019 and 2020. As VP, I doubt she was ever even asked about it as a VP has nothing to do with it. But many peoples views on fracking have changed. Mine has. I was against until I read more on it and also that the industry has shown that it's pretty safe.
She says she won't ban it. And regardless, she can only do it on federal lands. Most of it is done on private land, to the tune of about 90%.
And this goes to a broader point...trump just didn't lie about something like a nuanced policy position, HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS, AND PETS!!! Additionally, the Haitians in Springfield AREN'T ILLEGALS!
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 01:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 11:52 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Loose with the facts?!?!? HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS AND PETS!!!!
Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
Dude, you're pushing to become a part of my dustbin here.
And you're misrepresenting things on her fracking too. She spoke on fracking when she was running for president back in 2019 and 2020. As VP, I doubt she was ever even asked about it as a VP has nothing to do with it. But many peoples views on fracking have changed. Mine has. I was against until I read more on it and also that the industry has shown that it's pretty safe.
She says she won't ban it. And regardless, she can only do it on federal lands. Most of it is done on private land, to the tune of about 90%.
And this goes to a broader point...trump just didn't lie about something like a nuanced policy position, HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS, AND PETS!!! Additionally, the Haitians in Springfield AREN'T ILLEGALS!
She's on record as supporting the Green New Deal, and yes in 2020 she wanted to ban fracking. Taking everything into account, I don't believe her.
Now you're just moving the goal posts by bringing in EV's and the GND, which again, isn't any actual legislation on its own.
You don't believe her, fine.
No, not moving the goal posts. It's about adding context in order to determine if you can weigh her statements as being likely or doubtful.
While his executive order was non-binding...he still had auto executives from various car companies telling him they would honor this pledge. They put their money where their mouths were with major capital investments in EV production. You know the government was putting pressure on the car companies to do this, they did in fact spend that money and look how many billions of dollars were spent to make vehicles few people want.
Sorry (not really) but that's much more serious than telling a story about cats and dogs being eaten in an OH town.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 07:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Well, last weeks numbers are out...
Quote:For the quarter, the ABC News broadcast averaged 7.3 million total viewers. That figure bested both NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (6.2 million) and CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell (4.3 million).
Earlier this month, David Muir moderated the ABC News Presidential Debate — alongside Linsey Davis — that featured quick fact-checking against Republican nominee donald trump. Many observers believed it was biased in nature, leading them to posit the ratings for ABC World News Tonight dropping slightly in the days following the debate.
However, the slight ratings dip coincided with a carriage dispute between The Walt Disney Company — parent company to ABC — and DirecTV that saw channels removed from the satellite provider’s lineup.
During the week of September 16th, the ratings for the program anchored by Muir rebounded after Disney television channels were reinserted for DirecTV subscribers. The show averaged 7.2 million viewers for the week, up from the 6.9 million it featured during the week following the debate.
Meanwhile, NBC Nightly News averaged 5.6 million total viewers, with CBS Evening News earning an audience of 4.5 million.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
lol, how can Trump be something we've never seen before when we saw Trump in 2016? The reason we saw the unfair debate is because Trump won that election. The media is doing everything it can to prevent that from reoccurring.
RE: David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
(09-26-2024 01:47 PM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 01:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 11:52 AM)miko33 Wrote:
(09-26-2024 11:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-26-2024 10:57 AM)miko33 Wrote: Clearly you can't see the forest from the trees...
Which unverified statement is worse?
1) Illegals are eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH
2) I am against fracking for natural gas but decided I'm in favor of it as of September (just in time for the Nov 2024 presidential election)
Dude, you're pushing to become a part of my dustbin here.
And you're misrepresenting things on her fracking too. She spoke on fracking when she was running for president back in 2019 and 2020. As VP, I doubt she was ever even asked about it as a VP has nothing to do with it. But many peoples views on fracking have changed. Mine has. I was against until I read more on it and also that the industry has shown that it's pretty safe.
She says she won't ban it. And regardless, she can only do it on federal lands. Most of it is done on private land, to the tune of about 90%.
And this goes to a broader point...trump just didn't lie about something like a nuanced policy position, HE SAID PEOPLE WERE EATING DOGS, CATS, AND PETS!!! Additionally, the Haitians in Springfield AREN'T ILLEGALS!
She's on record as supporting the Green New Deal, and yes in 2020 she wanted to ban fracking. Taking everything into account, I don't believe her.
Now you're just moving the goal posts by bringing in EV's and the GND, which again, isn't any actual legislation on its own.
You don't believe her, fine.
No, not moving the goal posts. It's about adding context in order to determine if you can weigh her statements as being likely or doubtful.
While his executive order was non-binding...he still had auto executives from various car companies telling him they would honor this pledge. They put their money where their mouths were with major capital investments in EV production. You know the government was putting pressure on the car companies to do this, they did in fact spend that money and look how many billions of dollars were spent to make vehicles few people want.
Sorry (not really) but that's much more serious than telling a story about cats and dogs being eaten in an OH town.
The "story" wasn't the issue...mainly because it isn't a "story," IT'S MADE UP bull****!
Also, you can mandate and/or push EV's with or without banning or promoting fracking. They're not mutually exclusive.
Watching the national news shows on the networks is a waste of time. There are many better ways to be more informed than that archaic system. I assume David Muir is "mostly" neutral as a news anchor - don't know since I don't watch.
As a moderator, David Muir did the country a huge disservice. He injected himself into the debate. That's a critical error to make considering the moderator's job is to keep the debate moving so that the candidates can touch on a variety of topics plus allow the candidates themselves to have the give and take so that we can be informed. He didn't do that.
The issue is that trump is like nothing ever seen before in a candidate for the top office in the land on one of the top 2 tickets. It puts the moderator, and functioning adults, into a tough spot.
My God, the guy actually claimed that people are eating dogs and cats!!! So yeah, Muir corrected him. If this were something actually happening in this regard, it would have given trump the perfect opportunity to put forth a cogent answer and solution that problem...making him look like a credible and serious candidate. But of course, it's not happening, so it makes Muir look the heavy for daring to ask trump to actually articulate something.
That's BS. I have yet to see one single politician who hasn't played loose and easy with the facts. Everyone from the left tries to say Trump is an unprecedented liar. To me he looks no different than a typical politician. What people can't get past with Trump is he lies - or stretches the truth - differently than your typical politician. However, the outcomes are the same.
Tell me - does saying people are eating cats and dogs really all that different from claiming that your relative was eaten by cannibals in another country while visiting said country?
lol, how can Trump be something we've never seen before when we saw Trump in 2016? The reason we saw the unfair debate is because Trump won that election. The media is doing everything it can to prevent that from reoccurring.
Nonsense. But no, I'm not treating 2016 and 2020 and 2024 trump as different people. HE'S something we've never seen before, so HE is the reason moderators are now interjecting themselves and trying to fact check. It's because HE cannot just live in the reality of facts without just making **** up.
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[NEWS] David Muir's 'World News Tonight' viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential deb
