https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/07/10...-moderate/
The Democrats have attacked him as far right because he's not. And he's getting former Democratic votes.

"...The liberal media have cast Trump as an extremist because the truth is so much more threatening. In policy terms, he is a moderate, even a liberal, who has assumed the kind of agenda that would have been very familiar to a Democrat 50 years ago. His base isn’t right-wing fanatics. It’s the vast, multiracial, deeply tolerant working class, many of whom were Democrats in the recent past – in some cases, the very recent past. That is the real affront the Democratic elites cannot forgive him for."

(07-11-2024 07:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/07/10...-moderate/
The Democrats have attacked him as far right because he's not. And he's getting former Democratic votes.

"...The liberal media have cast Trump as an extremist because the truth is so much more threatening. In policy terms, he is a moderate, even a liberal, who has assumed the kind of agenda that would have been very familiar to a Democrat 50 years ago. His base isn’t right-wing fanatics. It’s the vast, multiracial, deeply tolerant working class, many of whom were Democrats in the recent past – in some cases, the very recent past. That is the real affront the Democratic elites cannot forgive him for."

That and ruining the coronation of Hillary Clinton without their permission.

(07-11-2024 04:26 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  Project 2025 is all the talking heads and political hacks are talking about. Its an organized attempt to swarming social media and the news media with false info about Project 2025 in order to "scare" people and "distract" from the Biden drama. They've gone to their traditional playback of dirty tricks. It always works for them.

You mean to tell me the administration who has covered up and lied to the country’s face for 4 years about something as serious as the mental health and condition of the President would lie and stretch the truth to try and scare people into voting them so they can retain power?

I just can’t believe it.

(07-02-2024 10:05 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:57 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:54 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:51 AM)mlb Wrote:  Shrinking the size of government and cutting the wasteful spending should be the first step. We've got to get the deficit under control ASAP.

Ain't happening.

Unfortunately I know. Didn't happen in 2017 either.

It makes you wonder if Trump tried but went about it the wrong way, or he really didn't try the last time. IMO he went about it the wrong way when he had the stick his first two years. Did he learn his lesson?

If he wins, and the R's gain control Congress and Senate (which is at least a possibility), I think he will be more wary of trying to negotiate with the D's who have clearly proven they will spin around and give him the shaft the second they have a chance.

Then, if he gets to place 2-3 more SCOTUS seats... whoa...

Trump put a lot of trust into Washington insiders to handle the budget and as we all know, Washington will never cut anything, so instead they throw it all into pork.

I don't blame Trump or any POTUS to be honest. They all submit budgets, but Congress is the problem when it comes to the debt.

(07-12-2024 10:07 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 10:05 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:57 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:54 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:51 AM)mlb Wrote:  Shrinking the size of government and cutting the wasteful spending should be the first step. We've got to get the deficit under control ASAP.

Ain't happening.

Unfortunately I know. Didn't happen in 2017 either.

It makes you wonder if Trump tried but went about it the wrong way, or he really didn't try the last time. IMO he went about it the wrong way when he had the stick his first two years. Did he learn his lesson?

If he wins, and the R's gain control Congress and Senate (which is at least a possibility), I think he will be more wary of trying to negotiate with the D's who have clearly proven they will spin around and give him the shaft the second they have a chance.

Then, if he gets to place 2-3 more SCOTUS seats... whoa...

Trump put a lot of trust into Washington insiders to handle the budget and as we all know, Washington will never cut anything, so instead they throw it all into pork.

I don't blame Trump or any POTUS to be honest. They all submit budgets, but Congress is the problem when it comes to the debt.

I would think that by now you realize that trump really doesn't have the first ******* clue how the government budget actually works.

(07-12-2024 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-12-2024 10:07 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 10:05 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:57 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-02-2024 09:54 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Ain't happening.

Unfortunately I know. Didn't happen in 2017 either.

It makes you wonder if Trump tried but went about it the wrong way, or he really didn't try the last time. IMO he went about it the wrong way when he had the stick his first two years. Did he learn his lesson?

If he wins, and the R's gain control Congress and Senate (which is at least a possibility), I think he will be more wary of trying to negotiate with the D's who have clearly proven they will spin around and give him the shaft the second they have a chance.

Then, if he gets to place 2-3 more SCOTUS seats... whoa...

Trump put a lot of trust into Washington insiders to handle the budget and as we all know, Washington will never cut anything, so instead they throw it all into pork.

I don't blame Trump or any POTUS to be honest. They all submit budgets, but Congress is the problem when it comes to the debt.

I would think that by now you realize that trump really doesn't have the first ******* clue how the government budget actually works.

99% of people in Congress don't either, so what's your point?

At the end of the day, every POTUS since Bush 43 has signed budgets that increase deficit spending, so who cares what they know or don't know. It's irrelevant.

"Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Every single government program, including the military, spends up to 75% of its budget on administrative overhead. The standard for private charitable organizations is 10-15%--and that includes fundraising, which government agencies in theory don't have to do.

Cut the overhead, and you balance the budget.

Is this still a D scare tactic?

(08-15-2024 12:09 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this still a D scare tactic?

I hope not.

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(08-15-2024 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Oh no! A conservative politician supports a conservative agenda! It's a threat to democracy!

(08-15-2024 12:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Oh no! A conservative politician supports a conservative agenda! It's a threat to democracy!

You should go look at the videos that were uncovered...they're something else.

(08-15-2024 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Oh no! A conservative politician supports a conservative agenda! It's a threat to democracy!

You should go look at the videos that were uncovered...they're something else.

Are they worse than aborted infants, children having their genitals mutilated, or men going into women's restrooms?

(08-15-2024 12:39 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Oh no! A conservative politician supports a conservative agenda! It's a threat to democracy!

You should go look at the videos that were uncovered...they're something else.

Are they worse than aborted infants, children having their genitals mutilated, or men going into women's restrooms?

Have you seen The Handmaid's Tale?

(08-15-2024 12:11 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:09 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this still a D scare tactic?

I hope not.

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I know my SIL threw that at me. At the time I didn't even know what it was and thanks to you guys I'm aware now. Post no.124 sure killed all those boogeymen the Demonic Party was crying about. Heck, I think most of it is alright with me.

What I would REALLY WANT is for the president to stop giving out free money to countries, allied or not, until we get our deficit under control. Let those countries gripe, it's America First and we have to look out for our interest first and foremost.

Assuage those countries that they'll consider the subject later when we have our house in order. Screw them I say, if the Russkies and Chinese want to bankrupt their countries by taking up the slack then let them try. It'll truly backfire on them especially if Trump puts up barriers with tariffs and such. We don't need their goods, I mean the ones we buy at WalMart, we can make our own and employ OUR people instead of America hating countries populations.

(08-15-2024 12:09 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Is this still a D scare tactic?

There is a HUGE number of former trump administration officials working on it.

Not sure it's a scare tactic per se, but it is definitely something to keep an eye on. I think the Schedule F stuff is more worrisome.

(08-15-2024 12:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:39 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 12:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(08-15-2024 09:40 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  "Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret work preparing for a second Trump term" -

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/...index.html

"Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we do.”"

Oh no! A conservative politician supports a conservative agenda! It's a threat to democracy!

You should go look at the videos that were uncovered...they're something else.

Are they worse than aborted infants, children having their genitals mutilated, or men going into women's restrooms?

Have you seen The Handmaid's Tale?

No. But, I've seen (daily) how indoctrinated loons can do, say, & believe ANYTHING that their Dem Overlords tell them, without any ability to think for themselves.