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Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
Quote:Joe Biden had a "tough" call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday in which the American president demanded Israel surrender to Hamas "within a week or two." He also pledged to pull support from Israel if there is any further "escalation."
According to a new report, Biden was "emotional" and began yelling as he insisted that Netanyahu somehow secure a ceasefire with a terrorist government that keeps rejecting every ceasefire proposal.
At the end of the meeting with Netanyahu in the Oval office last Thursday, Biden became emotional, raised his voice and told Netanyahu he needs to reach a Gaza deal as soon as possible, three Israeli officials with knowledge of the meeting told Axios.
"Biden raised his voice and said he wants a deal reached within a week to two weeks," a senior Israeli official said.
"Biden told Netanyahu that a hostage and ceasefire deal is the most important thing right now," the Israeli official added.
If you're good at math, you've probably already realized that "a week to two weeks" just so happens to be days before the Democratic National Convention is set to take place. Why does that matter? Because for the better part of a year, the expectation has been that left-wing Hamas supporters will protest and commit acts of violence at the event.
Biden is clearly hoping that a ceasefire will defuse the situation and spare his party the embarrassment. In other words, the President of the United States is demanding an American ally surrender to terrorists for political gain. That's a wild development that would be a bonafide scandal if it involved a Republican.
Again, how is Israel supposed to secure a hostage deal when Hamas refuses to agree to one outside of securing total victory in Gaza as a condition? That's never a question posed to Biden nor any other administration official, though it's the most obvious one surrounding this ordeal. Israel has repeatedly offered lopsided deals that would heavily benefit Hamas and they've all been rejected. What's left for them to offer except the complete preservation of Hamas as a governing authority? It would be suicidal for Israel to allow that.
As to the current threat from Iran, Biden went so far as to tell Netanyahu the United States will not help Israel defeat an attack if another "escalation" occurs. Keep in mind that the prior "escalation" was the killing of Hamas' top political leader and a wanted Hezbollah terrorist who had an American-placed bounty on his head. Apparently, that was unacceptable to the president.
Biden then told Netanyahu the U.S. will help Israel defeat an Iranian attack, but after that he expects no more escalation from the Israeli side and immediate movement toward a hostage deal, the U.S. official said.
Biden also warned Netanyahu that if he escalates again, he shouldn't count on the U.S. to bail him out, the U.S. official added.
Further, the report claims that Biden and his handlers are very upset that Netanyahu kept them in the dark about the assassinations mentioned above.
U.S. officials don't mourn the deaths of either Hezbollah's top military commander Fuad Shukr, who was involved in killing 241 U.S. Marines in Beirut in 1983, or Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh, who celebrated the Oct. 7 massacre.
But they feel that Netanyahu kept Biden in the dark over his plans to carry out the assassinations, after leaving the impression last week that he was attentive to the president's request to focus on getting a Gaza deal.
Of course, the Israelis kept the United States in the dark. Had they not, there is no doubt the plans would have been leaked to Iran by Biden administration officials. That was simply a risk Netanyahu and his country couldn't take given how big of a target Ismail Haniyeh was.
There is no doubt that Biden and Kamala Harris see the ongoing war against Hamas as a political liability. That they are prioritizing their own thirst for power in this scenario is insane. It is not Israel's fault that the Democratic Party is full of antisemitic radicals, and the fact that there may be riots at the DNC should play absolutely no role in any ceasefire agreement.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
So just to be very clear here, you took this opportunity to engage the use of a non sequitur wrapped up in a logical fallacy to try to prove a point that isn't even close to the topic at hand. STFU, you aren't a serious person. You're exactly what I said you were at the outset, simply another loon spouting loon nonsense.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 04:52 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
So just to be very clear here, you took this opportunity to engage the use of a non sequitur wrapped up in a logical fallacy to try to prove a point that isn't even close to the topic at hand. STFU, you aren't a serious person. You're exactly what I said you were at the outset, simply another loon spouting loon nonsense.
Biden then told Netanyahu the U.S. will help Israel defeat an Iranian attack
Where do you think the logical end point of this is?
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 05:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:52 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
So just to be very clear here, you took this opportunity to engage the use of a non sequitur wrapped up in a logical fallacy to try to prove a point that isn't even close to the topic at hand. STFU, you aren't a serious person. You're exactly what I said you were at the outset, simply another loon spouting loon nonsense.
Biden then told Netanyahu the U.S. will help Israel defeat an Iranian attack
Where do you think the logical end point of this is?
I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of biden's mouth.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
Rino spotted
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
BTW, didn't want to create a new thread, but I found this interesting. That Twitter account is interesting. They have more US-led intelligence on what is about to happen than we do in the USA.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 05:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:52 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
So just to be very clear here, you took this opportunity to engage the use of a non sequitur wrapped up in a logical fallacy to try to prove a point that isn't even close to the topic at hand. STFU, you aren't a serious person. You're exactly what I said you were at the outset, simply another loon spouting loon nonsense.
Biden then told Netanyahu the U.S. will help Israel defeat an Iranian attack
Where do you think the logical end point of this is?
Acting POTUS Obama would never allow America to assist Israel in battling the Iranians, they beez his peoples, mayne.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
"We woke up, picked up our phones"
Is that seriously what everyone in the world does these days? I don't even take mine with me when I leave the house. I hate the damn things.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
If I were Netanyahu, I'd demand he go see the Wizard for a brain.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
Quote:CNN’s Data Guru Shows How Israel-Hamas War Is Costing Biden Big with Voters in Latest Brutal Poll
BERMAN: “Wall Street Journal released new polling from swing states. And as you can see here, a lot of red. Donald Trump leading President Biden in six of seven swing states. Only in Wisconsin does President Biden hold a very small lead. With us now, CNN senior data Reporter Harry Enten. And the question, Harry, is why?”
ENTEN: “Yeah, you know, let’s take a look here. So this is approval among Democrats on Biden’s handling of a lot of different issues here. The economy, Russia-Ukraine, pretty good, right — 81 percent. Jump down to foreign policy and you see this drops to 65 percent. Gun violence, 60 percent. U.S.-Mexico border, 58 percent. These are not good numbers for a Democrat amongst his own party.
But look here — the Israel-Hamas war. Look at that approval rating. Less than 50 percent of Democrats are approving on Joe Biden on the Israel-Hamas war. And more than that, John, these numbers have gotten significantly worse. So this is Democrats’ views of Biden on the Israel-Hamas war. Look back in October of 2023. It was 67 percent. Look where we are today — 48 percent.
That disapprove number — look at that. It jumped up from 28 percent in October of 2023 to 46 percent. Now, this is within the margin of error. Democrats are split on Joe Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war. John, you know I look at poll numbers a lot. For a president to be doing this poorly amongst his own party on any issue is quite something to see.”
BERMAN: “You can’t be losing 15 percent of Democrats if you’re Joe Biden.”
ENTEN: “You cannot be doing that. This type of base going in the other direction is something you can’t have, especially if you have Independents who are also turning against you.”
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
I certainly dont support my children paying for your student loans.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-03-2024 09:50 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
I certainly dont support my children paying for your student loans.
Someone get bonds a towel when he wakes up after the 10 count
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
(08-02-2024 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (08-02-2024 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: I can't imagine even Britain would tell us when they had assassination plans. And certainly no ally would tell the leaky, antisemitic Biden administration.
So just to be very clear here, would you support having your children fighting a war against Iran on behalf of Israel?
More happy than my children fighting a war against Russia on behalf of a cronically corrupt Ukraine.
This is what seems to elude you leftists, Iranians hate freedom, Iranians hate the west, Iran gives billions of dollars to a bunch of (literally) sub-80 IQ, brain washed, fanatical, gay hating, women raping, zealots whose mission in life is to kill every non-Muslim they can because that what their loving, wise prophet (who was also a sub-80 IQ, fanatical, gay hating, woman raping, pedo, zealot) had someone write down, because he was illiterate and couldn’t write himself.
We personally need to drop a MOAB in the middle of Tehran anytime any of the funded proxies commits an act of terrorism anywhere in the world until they stop funding them. This isn’t about protecting Israel, which would be reason enough, this is about making sure a bunch of petulant, retarded, zealots don’t have the resources to make killing people easier.
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Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
Biden and Harris will fund Iran with more money if they attack Israel.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
If the democrats didn't steal the election four years ago, we wouldn't have to be putting up with any of this bullsh!t.
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RE: Biden* Demands Israel Surrender to Hamas, Pledges to Pull American Support
I don’t support sending our men to fight in wars that don’t directly involve us.
I want this particular war to end because of that.
As Israel is our top ally, they don’t need bodies or feet on the ground. All they need is weapons.
Not trying to see our men go fight for Israel while democrats are funding Hamas and Hezbollah.
In the end, I’m on Israel’s side. They should be able to pummel surrounding areas into oblivion for taking their land and the attacks on Jews&Christians.
That make believe Genocide propaganda on social media ain’t fooling me. You don’t get to be an Islamic terrorist practicing jihad and expect no repercussions.
Yes, I can support sending weapons to Israel. Ukraine has no ties to us, no partnerships, no real trade. Biden has assets there, so he got us involved for his own pockets
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