CrimsonPhantom
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Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
Quote:BREAKING: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
Prosecutors have agreed to plea agreements with three of the masterminds of the Sept. 11 terror attacks who were awaiting trial in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, the Department of Defense said Wednesday.
The Convening Authority for Military Commissions, Susan Escallier, entered into pretrial agreements with Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin 'Attash, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi, the DOD said.
The terms and conditions of the plea deals were not disclosed.
The plea deal should just be what is for their last meal.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
To ADX Florence they go I assume. A number of Al-Qaeda operatives from that time frame (90s and early 00s) are there (Moussaoui, Yousef, Ressam, etc.)
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
I guess they felt that they had to get something before Kamala pardons them.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
(07-31-2024 05:57 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote: To ADX Florence they go I assume. A number of Al-Qaeda operatives from that time frame (90s and early 00s) are there (Moussaoui, Yousef, Ressam, etc.)
Is Florence the only Fed Supermax we have?
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
(07-31-2024 08:59 PM)fsquid Wrote: (07-31-2024 05:57 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote: To ADX Florence they go I assume. A number of Al-Qaeda operatives from that time frame (90s and early 00s) are there (Moussaoui, Yousef, Ressam, etc.)
Is Florence the only Fed Supermax we have?
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Yes, all the others have been downgraded due to legal fights. They have tried that at Florence, but I think even the fruitiest of doves recognizes some animals have to be locked in a dark hole.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
The way I’ve heard it is that other facilities may have a Supermax “component” or “section”, but Florence is the only one where the *Entire* facility is classified at that level of security.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
(07-31-2024 09:20 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: The way I’ve heard it is that other facilities may have a Supermax “component” or “section”, but Florence is the only one where the *Entire* facility is classified at that level of security.
Sounds right. I believe there’s a former al-qaeda operative somewhere in Kentucky (If I remember correctly, he had a hand in the 1998 Embassy bombings, but I don’t recall with 100% certainty), but the majority of bombers/overseas terrorists seem to be at Florence.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
(07-31-2024 09:20 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: The way I’ve heard it is that other facilities may have a Supermax “component” or “section”, but Florence is the only one where the *Entire* facility is classified at that level of security.
Kind of, adx florence is part of a larger federal pen complex. But adx florence was built from the ground up to be a supermax facility vs just designating a wing of a prison a supermax
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
Not surprising from the folks taking the side of Hamas and Hezbollah
I support death penalty for terrorists, Pedos, Murderers, and evidenced rapists.
We live in a ridiculous world, paying for these maniacs to live.
Send them all feet first into a wood chipper, then feed their remains to the sharks
(This post was last modified: 07-31-2024 10:19 PM by UABFAN23.)
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
Disgraceful...... Another Biden Administration blunder.
Queue Tom: Biden has no control over this!!! NO CONTROL - IT'S NOT HIS FAULT! .....
FK YOU Tom - yes he does!
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
(08-01-2024 06:43 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Disgraceful...... Another Biden Administration blunder.
Queue Tom: Biden has no control over this!!! NO CONTROL - IT'S NOT HIS FAULT! .....
FK YOU Tom - yes he does!
tRuMp NeGoTiAtEd ThIs
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
I’ve been honestly trying to think of a non-political, good-faith reason why the Government would agree to keep the terms of these pleas a secret from the public. Unable to come up with one.
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
disgraceful
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RE: 9/11 mastermind, two others strike plea deals while awaiting trial
9/11 architect, co-conspirators plead guilty to murder of 2,976 people in exchange for removal of death penalty
Quote:Three terrorists being held at Guantanamo Bay, including the accused mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, have made a deal with prosecutors to avoid the death penalty. They have instead been charged with the murder of 2,976 people that died.
A spokesperson for the Office of Military Commissions (OMC), confirmed to The New York Post that it had entered into pre-trial agreements with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin Attash, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi. KSM has been accused of being the mastermind of the deadly 9/11 terrorist attacks which claimed nearly 3,000 lives. KSM and the two other terrorists have been held at the US military prison in Cuba since 2003.
A letter signed by Rear Adm. Aaron C. Rugh, chief prosecutor for the OMC, was sent to victims’ families Wednesday and read, “In exchange for removal of the death penalty as a possible punishment, these three Accused have agreed to plead guilty to all of the charged offenses, including the murder of the 2,976 people listed in the charge sheet.”
The guilty plea hearings could take place as early as next week with sentencing expected next summer.
Additionally, the letter explained that the terror suspects have also agreed to respond to any questions the family members of victims have about their role and reasons for planning the attacks. The family members would be able to submit questions to the suspects' defense attorneys and get answers within 90 days.
Daniel D’Allara, whose twin brother, John, was one of 23 NYPD officers killed on 9/11 told The New York Post, “I am very disappointed. We waited patiently for a long time. I wanted the death penalty — the government has failed us.”
Retired NYPD officer Jim Smith, husband of Moira Smith who was the only female police officer killed in the attacks, told the outlet he felt like he had been “kicked in the balls.”
"The prosecution and families have waited 23 years to have our day in court to put on the record what these animals did to our loved ones. They took that opportunity away from us. They committed the worst crime in the history of our country, they should receive the highest penalty.”
Kathy Vigiano, a retired NYPD cop and wife of Det. Joseph Vigiano who was killed in the attacks, told the Post, “I am angry and disappointed that enemy combatants who killed thousands of Americans in our homeland are now able to exploit the US judicial system to their benefit, receiving support from American taxpayers for shelter, food, and healthcare for the rest of their lives.”
Terry Strada, national chair of 9/11 Families United, whose husband Tom Strada, a 41-year-old bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald, was in the north tower when the planes hit and was killed told the outlet that some of the relatives of the victims wanted a plea deal “because they wanted it to end” after more than 20 years.
Strada said, “I wanted a trial, I wanted him to be found guilty, and I wanted him to be punished accordingly.” She said regarding the deal’s specifics, “We’ll take off the death penalty, you say you’re guilty, and you get to live in Gitmo country club until you die. I’ve been there. It’s a lot cushier than it would be in a max prison."
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CrimsonPhantom
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RE: Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
Must be current administration influenced by California’s light on crime. “Now, if you promise to go home and be good, we will let you out”. It’s a bad day when plea negotiations are done with terrorists.
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RE: Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
(07-31-2024 10:15 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote: Not surprising from the folks taking the side of Hamas and Hezbollah
I support death penalty for terrorists, Pedos, Murderers, and evidenced rapists.
We live in a ridiculous world, paying for these maniacs to live.
Send them all feet first into a wood chipper, then feed their remains to the sharks
Too easy on them.
Cut 3 of their 4 limbs off with a chainsaw and throw them into a hog pen while still alive. Let them know their amongst pigs, let them bleed out and let the hogs eat what’s left of them
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RE: Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
White House Gets Decimated Over Disgusting Comment on 9/11 Deal
Quote:Now, this case has been messed up for a long time, but needless to say, the family members and Americans in general are very upset that the Biden-Harris administration struck such a deal concerning the 9/11 attack.
But guess what the White House did? They released a statement saying they had "no role" in the process. Then White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was grilled over the deal as she was asked what was the White House response to the families? She kept looking down and could barely even pick her head up to look the reporters in the eye, her answer was so disgraceful:
KJP claimed the White House had "no involvement" in the decision. "The White House played no role in this process," she claimed. She said they directed their team to consult "with officials and lawyers in the Department of Defense" as appropriate. She declared that their hearts went out to the families, and Biden recognized 9/11 each year. Does she get how cold and lacking in care for Americans this is?
People were understandably upset that she was trying to run away from any responsibility for actions by their own administration.
The NY Post said it for a lot of people.
We used to have a policy of not negotiating with terrorists, but we've apparently thrown all that under the bus. It's why we're going to have more Americans wrongfully detained by hostile governments and bad actors. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden own this, they can't wiggle out of responsibility.
As far as Biden always recognizing 9/11, we reported last year how he blew off going to any of the attack sites on that day. He didn't want to do anything to amend his schedule to meet the moment, apparently.
Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Bars pointed that out.
"The analogy that I was given," Doocy reported, "is that 22 years after Pearl Harbor, U.S. Presidents were not still going to visit Hawaii." Yikes.
But hey, Biden always remembers, right, Karine?
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RE: Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
I have now heard this story a few times after reading it here and I am getting more and more angry about it.
These M'Fers sent people to die at their bidding to kill others at their bidding and now they negotiate a deal to NOT die.....
A: They should have been killed years ago
B: Allowing any "negotiation" of anything Harris-level retarded
C: This issue alone should disqualify Biden/Harris for a lack of protecting American first.
I am really, really pissed about this.
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RE: Biden*-Harris Strike Plea Deal Allowing 9/11 Plotters To Avoid The Death Penalty
(08-01-2024 02:51 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: (07-31-2024 10:15 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote: Not surprising from the folks taking the side of Hamas and Hezbollah
I support death penalty for terrorists, Pedos, Murderers, and evidenced rapists.
We live in a ridiculous world, paying for these maniacs to live.
Send them all feet first into a wood chipper, then feed their remains to the sharks
Too easy on them.
Cut 3 of their 4 limbs off with a chainsaw and throw them into a hog pen while still alive. Let them know their amongst pigs, let them bleed out and let the hogs eat what’s left of them
NO, that is STILL too easy on those murdering @ssholes.
Put about 6 huge sows in a 20 foot square pit about 12 feet deep. Let them go hungry for a day or so.
Strip the terrorists, rub bacon grease liberally all over their body including their hair. Just before each one is pushed into the pit, slash them just above the eyebrows so the blood runs into their eyes, making it hard to see.
All the others watch the ravenous hogs greedily go to work on their human buffet.
Have a live feed of the carnage on YouTube so observers around the world can freely comment while listening to the screams of these tough guy terrorists being eaten alive by these most unclean animals.
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