(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 11:17 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 09:17 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Sure Tom, just link the post where I claimed to be a "perfect" Christian and I'll be happy to explain it for you.

Further proof Tom doesn't understand Christianity. No real Christian uses the term "Perfect Christian". That's the type of comment non-believers use to attack Christians.

There was only 1 perfect person to ever live.

Yeah...sure...LOL

Perhaps read my comment again...I was implying that Eric typically promotes a degree of perfection on Christianity the way he continually lectures posters here when he doesn't personally know any of them. Not that he ever claimed he was a perfect Christian or that I don't know who the only perfect person was.

The Bible warns us time and time again about judging others.

Bible also warns us of people posing as Christians

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

(07-31-2024 09:09 AM)b2b Wrote:  It's really simple, Tom. You vote for a party that's pro-homosexual, pro-transexual and pro-abortion. That's your fruit you're living in real time. You do it here daily. The best "defense" you've got is that Trump is bad too. You've got ZERO proof that he hasn't accepted Christ. Even if he hasn't the positions he takes are at least not in direct conflict w/ the Bible.

Same with me, chap. But that doesn't stop posters here like Eric.

And you're right, I don't know that about trump. I come to the opinion that he hasn't by the way he talks about The Bible, etc. Saying 2 Corinthians...not being able to cite even one Bible verse...not going to church...never hinting at any need to ask for forgiveness...no hint at any sort of prayer life...the way he talks about and treats others, etc. Not to mention his rampant narcissism and love of money and power. All antithetical to Jesus' teachings.

But the voting part is just ridiculous. You'd likely never be able to vote for any politician ever if you had to accept every part of their platform. And I value the Constitution and it's clarity on not having religion be a part of our government. I have never had an abortion, never counseled anyone to get one and never would...but I can still realize that it's not my place or the governments to tell others what to do with their own body. I'm also not gay and am not currently planning on transitioning...LOL

Lastly, like many who post on social media, I'm guilty of saying things I would never say to anyone in person, etc. So tread lightly when you make judgements on that alone.

(07-31-2024 08:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 08:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 07:34 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah...sure...LOL

Perhaps read my comment again...I was implying that Eric typically promotes a degree of perfection on Christianity the way he continually lectures posters here when he doesn't personally know any of them. Not that he ever claimed he was a perfect Christian or that I don't know who the only perfect person was.

The Bible warns us time and time again about judging others.

Indeed it does:

"Beware...wolves in sheeps clothing"

"You will know them by their fruits"

"Judge righteous judgement"

"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"


Tom, you're a liar and troll and there is no truth in you.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Eric, you're a hypocrite.

For me to be a hypocrite in this context would mean I'm not really a Christian. Otherwise there would be no hypocracy in anything I said. Being a Christian has nothing to do with how perfect or imperfect you are, its about what is in your heart concerning the Gospel.

And what is truly in your heart will always show itself in your words and actions.

Luke 6:45 – "The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks."

This is how we know you by your fruits tom.

No, Eric, you're a hypocrite because you lie here and then accuse me of lying about my faith. Again, you don't know me.

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 11:17 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Further proof Tom doesn't understand Christianity. No real Christian uses the term "Perfect Christian". That's the type of comment non-believers use to attack Christians.

There was only 1 perfect person to ever live.

Yeah...sure...LOL

Perhaps read my comment again...I was implying that Eric typically promotes a degree of perfection on Christianity the way he continually lectures posters here when he doesn't personally know any of them. Not that he ever claimed he was a perfect Christian or that I don't know who the only perfect person was.

The Bible warns us time and time again about judging others.

Bible also warns us of people posing as Christians

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

(07-31-2024 10:02 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, Eric, you're a hypocrite because you lie here and then accuse me of lying about my faith. Again, you don't know me.

Tom, I'm just fine with letting the board judge who the liar is between you and I.

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah...sure...LOL

Perhaps read my comment again...I was implying that Eric typically promotes a degree of perfection on Christianity the way he continually lectures posters here when he doesn't personally know any of them. Not that he ever claimed he was a perfect Christian or that I don't know who the only perfect person was.

The Bible warns us time and time again about judging others.

Bible also warns us of people posing as Christians

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

If someone says Trump is chosen by God, that person likely is confused/not a Christian.

As far as the bullet, God indeed may have spared his life. That has zero to do with whether he's a Christian.

You seem to have strong feelings about this, yet I've waiting on your critique of Biden (or any other Dem) that claims to be a Christian, yet shows ZERO indication of such.

(07-31-2024 10:11 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Bible also warns us of people posing as Christians

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

If someone says Trump is chosen by God, that person likely is confused/not a Christian.

As far as the bullet, God indeed may have spared his life. That has zero to do with whether he's a Christian.

You seem to have strong feelings about this, yet I've waiting on your critique of Biden (or any other Dem) that claims to be a Christian, yet shows ZERO indication of such.

That would lead to some indication of a negative post about a democrat... and they cannot sh*t where they eat.

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

That's not the same thing as saying he's a Christian. If you know your Bible you'd know that God used ungodly leaders and empires often to advance his will.

(07-31-2024 10:16 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

That's not the same thing as saying he's a Christian. If you know your Bible you'd know that God used ungodly leaders and empires often to advance his will.

That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

(07-31-2024 10:10 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:02 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, Eric, you're a hypocrite because you lie here and then accuse me of lying about my faith. Again, you don't know me.

Tom, I'm just fine with letting the board judge who the liar is between you and I.

You would be...this board is by no means representative of anything fair or honest.

And I'm just fine with letting God judge me.

(07-31-2024 10:11 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 12:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Bible also warns us of people posing as Christians

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

If someone says Trump is chosen by God, that person likely is confused/not a Christian.

As far as the bullet, God indeed may have spared his life. That has zero to do with whether he's a Christian.

You seem to have strong feelings about this, yet I've waiting on your critique of Biden (or any other Dem) that claims to be a Christian, yet shows ZERO indication of such.

That's just laughable. Stop.

(07-31-2024 10:15 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:11 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

If someone says Trump is chosen by God, that person likely is confused/not a Christian.

As far as the bullet, God indeed may have spared his life. That has zero to do with whether he's a Christian.

You seem to have strong feelings about this, yet I've waiting on your critique of Biden (or any other Dem) that claims to be a Christian, yet shows ZERO indication of such.

That would lead to some indication of a negative post about a democrat... and they cannot sh*t where they eat.

You're so ******* blind...or lying...or just ignorant.

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

He did that very thing over and over and over again throughout the Bible. If you ever bothered to open it up and read it you may learn that for yourself.

(07-31-2024 10:44 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

He did that very thing over and over and over again throughout the Bible. If you ever bothered to open it up and read it you may learn that for yourself.

Yep. He really showed his Biblical ignorance with that one.

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:16 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

That's not the same thing as saying he's a Christian. If you know your Bible you'd know that God used ungodly leaders and empires often to advance his will.

That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

I don't know the man's heart but yeah, it's possible.

(07-31-2024 10:44 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

He did that very thing over and over and over again throughout the Bible. If you ever bothered to open it up and read it you may learn that for yourself.

Yeah, chucklehead...I get it and am well aware...but bear false witness yet again on how often I read The Bible...it's your MO. Hypocrite.

I was only laughing at his assertion that God is doing that again with trump. If anything, he's using trump as a test for Christians. And they are failing. Bigly.

(07-31-2024 11:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:44 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

He did that very thing over and over and over again throughout the Bible. If you ever bothered to open it up and read it you may learn that for yourself.

Yeah, chucklehead...I get it and am well aware...but bear false witness yet again on how often I read The Bible...it's your MO. Hypocrite.

I was only laughing at his assertion that God is doing that again with trump. If anything, he's using trump as a test for Christians. And they are failing. Bigly.

We couldn't make something up that hilariously entertaining even if we tried. Your talent is wasted on this board, you should be running for office or in the legacy media with such an obvious and shameless spin of that magnitude.

I'm going to be kind here and engage the mercy rule now. There is nothing more that needs to be stated after that one.

(07-31-2024 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:11 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 09:17 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I know a LOT of Christians that are voting for Trump and I've never heard a single one of them say that they think he's a Christian. Not one.

FFS, come out from under your rock and expand your base. That's laughable. There's countless videos of his supporters going on and on about him being chosen by God, etc. Did you not see all the nonsense about the people claiming God altered the path of the bullet to save him...just to likely kill someone else.

If someone says Trump is chosen by God, that person likely is confused/not a Christian.

As far as the bullet, God indeed may have spared his life. That has zero to do with whether he's a Christian.

You seem to have strong feelings about this, yet I've waiting on your critique of Biden (or any other Dem) that claims to be a Christian, yet shows ZERO indication of such.

That's just laughable. Stop.

You think Biden is a Christian and shows evidence of his "faith"? Seriously?

Yeah, chucklehead...I get it and am well aware...but bear false witness yet again on how often I read The Bible...it's your MO. Hypocrite.

Ay mi'jo, how many times do I have to tell you, the Communist Manifesto IS NOT THE BIBLE! Ay hombre, you and New York City have something in common, both of you are dense.

(07-31-2024 11:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 11:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:44 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-31-2024 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   That's what you're going with...God is choosing a Godless heathen like trump to advance his will?

He did that very thing over and over and over again throughout the Bible. If you ever bothered to open it up and read it you may learn that for yourself.

Yeah, chucklehead...I get it and am well aware...but bear false witness yet again on how often I read The Bible...it's your MO. Hypocrite.

I was only laughing at his assertion that God is doing that again with trump. If anything, he's using trump as a test for Christians. And they are failing. Bigly.

We couldn't make something up that hilariously entertaining even if we tried. Your talent is wasted on this board, you should be running for office or in the legacy media with such an obvious and shameless spin of that magnitude.

I'm going to be kind here and engage the mercy rule now. There is nothing more that needs to be stated after that one.

One more thing Eric, perhaps you can tell us what usually happens to some non-believer in The Bible that God uses for good? Maybe start with Saul.