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(07-29-2024 09:51 PM)hburg Wrote:  

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We need to start funding and training these groups immediately! Spare no expense. Borrow if we have to. (And we do.) The future of civilization all depends on Americans fixing other peoples problems.

(07-29-2024 06:12 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 12:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Who gives a ****? It's Venezuela.

Dude. You just don't get it. Much of the activism, protests and organized rallies we are seeing across THIS country are happening as a direct result of governments like Venezuela's, like Bolivia's, like Chile's, like Cuba's, and other South American communists countries direct involvement with and funding of groups like BLM.

They have exported organizers and foot soldiers here with the express purpose of destabilizing our republic. Ignore this at your own peril. You and your kids will bear the brunt of this crap, old fuqr's like me will be gone by the time they've completed their takeover. You can call me crazy all you want, the evidence is there in plain sight if people would only open their eyes.

If you watched the events at Union Station in DC you must have seen the caravans of buses pulling up and all the protestors disembarking carrying printed placards. That is not a grass roots, organic movement. It's a well funded and orchestrated one.

TY
TBFE

I read some of this “who cares” defeatist crap and shake my head. Then move on to something else.

If the useful idiots don’t get it? Fine. Enjoy your Swifty concert or whatever.

If you’re complicity blind to it? You’ll be next in line.

This is insanity, National suicide.

Sad.



Y’all starting to figure this out yet?





Suckers

(07-29-2024 09:58 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 09:51 PM)hburg Wrote:  

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We need to start funding and training these groups immediately! Spare no expense. Borrow if we have to. (And we do.) The future of civilization all depends on Americans fixing other peoples problems.

They'll just become the next Maduros. It's a cycle that never tires.

I do care what happens in Venezuela, on both political and economic objectives.This country is full of offshore crude, a ****** variant, but still moderately refinable. It's women are beautiful, and its economy used to be amongst the world's elite. If I am going to send my sons to arms, it would be more to defend an oil-rich nation like VZ, in our hemisphere, vice Ukraine, et al. I sincerely hope Maduro is toppled. Would be a great precedent for rigged American elections, which we all know are coming.

Keep in mind... The whole cycle has been "protecting democracy".. I can see this happening here, Kamala being crowned all in the vein of protecting democracy..

Socialists don't go away quietly

Tell us again how Biden-Harris are so incompetent and yet somehow managed to steal an election in Venezuela.

(07-30-2024 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Tell us again how Biden-Harris are so incompetent and yet somehow managed to steal an election in Venezuela.

Simple. They lifted sanctions on Maduro and released his kids from prison.

Its about as incompetent as you can get.

Venezuelan Opposition Candidate Claims to Have Proof of Rigged Election

Quote:In a development that has a strangely familiar ring to it, Venezuelan presidential candidate Edmundo González claims to have proof that the South American nation's recent election was not on the up-and-up and that González, not the socialist strongman Nicolás Maduro, actually won the election.

As thousands of people demonstrated across Venezuela, opposition candidate Edmundo González announced Monday that his campaign has the proof it needs to show he won the country’s disputed election in which electoral authorities named President Nicolás Maduro the victor.

González and opposition leader Maria Corina Machado told reporters they have obtained more than 70% of tally sheets from Sunday’s election, and they show González with more than double Maduro’s votes. Both called on people, some of whom protested in the hours after Maduro was declared winner, to remain calm and invited them to gather peacefully at 11 a.m. Tuesday to celebrate the results.

“I speak to you with the calmness of the truth,” González said as dozens of supporters cheered outside campaign headquarters in the capital, Caracas. “We have in our hands the tally sheets that demonstrate our categorical and mathematically irreversible victory.”

There have been widespread demonstrations throughout Venezuela since the election results were announced. They have been "mostly peaceful," although it is as yet unclear as to whether they will become "fiery."


The conflict, as is so often the case in election disputes, seems to have to do not so much with who cast the votes but who counts them, and Maduro has a tight grip on the people who run that system.

But the ruling party wields tight control over the voting system, both through a loyal five-member electoral council and a network of longtime local party coordinators who get near unrestricted access to voting centers. Those coordinators, some of whom are responsible for handing out government benefits including subsidized food, have blocked representatives of opposition parties from entering voting centers as allowed by law to witness the voting process, vote counting and, crucially, to obtain a copy of the machines’ final tally sheet.

Electoral authorities had not yet released the tally sheets for each of the 30,000 voting machines as of Monday evening. The electoral body’s website was down, and it remained unclear when the tallies would be available. The lack of tallies prompted an independent group of electoral observers and the European Union to publicly urge the entity to release them.

Venezuela should, by any measure, be a wealthy nation. They have some of the world's largest petroleum reserves and, until the socialist Maduro came into the presidency of Venezuela, an office he shows no inclination to give up willingly, it was a prosperous nation with a modern economy and a good standard of living. But the election of a socialist leader, as is so often the case, did away with Venezuela's prosperity.

Earlier this week, the United States expressed "serious concerns" about the integrity of this election.

The moral of this story, at least for now, would seem to be this: Socialists, given power, can be relied upon utterly to do two things: 1) Ruin a nation's economy and 2) Never give up power.

This is an insurrection

https://www.aier.org/article/there-are-n...dictators/

Why Liberals will never understand these simple truths is beyond me.

Too busy worshipping a false religion to realize people can’t eat ideology.

(07-30-2024 01:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.aier.org/article/there-are-n...dictators/

Why Liberals will never understand these simple truths is beyond me.

Too busy worshipping a false religion to realize people can’t eat ideology.

Quote:Yesterday, I said that Venezuela's election felt uncomfortably like our own country.

Now, the radical left Venezuelan government claims that the opposition is trying to rig the result using hackers from North Macedonia — the same country Hillary Clinton blamed for defeating her in the 2016 election.

You can't make this up.

(07-30-2024 09:25 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Tell us again how Biden-Harris are so incompetent and yet somehow managed to steal an election in Venezuela.

Simple. They lifted sanctions on Maduro and released his kids from prison.

Its about as incompetent as you can get.

The same sanctions Trump imposed and recently said those kinds of sanctions would lead to an even like this?

(07-30-2024 01:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 01:19 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.aier.org/article/there-are-n...dictators/

Why Liberals will never understand these simple truths is beyond me.

Too busy worshipping a false religion to realize people can’t eat ideology.

Once again you fail to comprehend the

One man vs a Legion of amoral demonic hosted government bureaucrats with an agenda to destroy the family unit

But, you do you

(07-29-2024 06:44 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 06:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

I promise you to our liberal friends here this goes completely through the vacuous mind from one ear to the other.

"Oh, that could never happen here"...



We go to a timeshare in Aruba, about 22 miles or so from Vz coast, you can see it on clear days. This started in about '94 or so when my folks bought in.

Over the years we met a lot of Vz citizens who would also go to Aruba for some R&R. We got to know some relatively well over the years, would chat at the resort, cookouts, would run into them at the casino's etc.

Over this time you could see the changes coming. Fewer and fewer would or could continue taking the vacations there. We would ask at the desk if so and so were going to be here this week. We would stay 2 weeks so it overlapped with several families.

It went from their 2 week vaca to 1 week, then eventually not at all. We knew their units and weeks they "owned" and they started popping up for sale right and left and this is only one smaller resort.

Was sad to watch even from afar. Haven't seen any of the usuals for 4 or 5 years now.

Could they ALL be going elsewhere now? Possibly. Do I think thats what happened all of the sudden? Not at all.

As Ronaldus Maximus famously said, It only takes one generation to lose OUR freedom. He was far more eloquent of course...

(07-30-2024 05:43 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Keep in mind... The whole cycle has been "protecting democracy".. I can see this happening here, Kamala being crowned all in the vein of protecting democracy..

Yep. We've already had our first coup, and an attempted assassination of the opposition party's nominee. All in the same week.

What's next?