(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:19 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:09 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, but he's a VP. They don't move the needle much at all.

And...although it's just a poll...

Kamala Harris' Approval Rating Surges as donald trump's Falls

The Vance pick is more of an insurance pick for the MAGA wing. The left already tried to kill Trump, if Vance were to step in, you still have to deal with a populist right winger who is out to do the same things Trump is. That’s why he was picked.

That's ******* nonsense. That ****** up kid searched for events of Biden and trump both...trump happened to be the closest to him.

Is this your attempt to change the subject? Why not respond to my actual point instead of that? Why deflect away?

Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

For the dem leadership, they are admitting the election for the whitehouse is almost certainly over. Sure, they would love to win, but what we are seeing isnt so much about that as it is to try to not get demolished in the down ballots, while not allowing another clusterf*ck to happen in 4 years.

It was clear that Biden* was causing an issue where the down ballots were skyscreaming that they were about to get pummelled. SO they needed to try someone else who would at least get people to the polls. They would have preferred it to NOT be Kamala, but since the whitehouse is likely gone, they decided to run her (for now) so that when she gets her brains bashed in she wouldnt be around in 4 years. Had they handed this off to someone else without trying Kamala first, then that person would have likely also lost, and black women would be throwing a revolt if in 4 years it wasnt Kamala. So they decided to coronate her now, and if she falls on her face they can replace her without having to deal with her again in 4 years.

The real issue the dems have is the senate. Right now there are 50 fairly safe seats for the republicans, and about 43 for the democrats. There are 5 seats leaning dems, and 2 tossups. The tossups are MT and OH, which dems could easily lose and are virtually guaranteed to lose if any of the dems in those states fail to show up. The other 5 leaning dems are in swing states, and if dems cant get the vote out, those seats are in jeopardy.

So, why all the barking from dems and Chuck Schumer over Jd Vance. Because JD Vance has the appalachian connection, which is going to play well in OH, PA, MI, 3 of the states where democrats need to hold senate seats.

The dems could also take a beatdown in the house if the votes dont show up. But the HOR is about as gone for the dems as the whitehouse is. The dems are scrambling trying to prevent a rout in the senate, which would take a full 6 years to correct, or longer. If dems lose in OH and MT, it may be forever before those seats can be challenged again by the dems.

(07-29-2024 03:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For the dem leadership, they are admitting the election for the whitehouse is almost certainly over. Sure, they would love to win, but what we are seeing isnt so much about that as it is to try to not get demolished in the down ballots, while not allowing another clusterf*ck to happen in 4 years.

It was clear that Biden* was causing an issue where the down ballots were skyscreaming that they were about to get pummelled. SO they needed to try someone else who would at least get people to the polls. They would have preferred it to NOT be Kamala, but since the whitehouse is likely gone, they decided to run her (for now) so that when she gets her brains bashed in she wouldnt be around in 4 years. Had they handed this off to someone else without trying Kamala first, then that person would have likely also lost, and black women would be throwing a revolt if in 4 years it wasnt Kamala. So they decided to coronate her now, and if she falls on her face they can replace her without having to deal with her again in 4 years.

The real issue the dems have is the senate. Right now there are 50 fairly safe seats for the republicans, and about 43 for the democrats. There are 5 seats leaning dems, and 2 tossups. The tossups are MT and OH, which dems could easily lose and are virtually guaranteed to lose if any of the dems in those states fail to show up. The other 5 leaning dems are in swing states, and if dems cant get the vote out, those seats are in jeopardy.

So, why all the barking from dems and Chuck Schumer over Jd Vance. Because JD Vance has the appalachian connection, which is going to play well in OH, PA, MI, 3 of the states where democrats need to hold senate seats.

The dems could also take a beatdown in the house if the votes dont show up. But the HOR is about as gone for the dems as the whitehouse is. The dems are scrambling trying to prevent a rout in the senate, which would take a full 6 years to correct, or longer. If dems lose in OH and MT, it may be forever before those seats can be challenged again by the dems.

This makes ZERO sense. Vance does nothing for trump in PA, MI, or OH. He's already going to win Ohio...and the senate polling showed that the dem senate candidates wildly outperforming their R candidates compared to how Biden was doing vs. trump.

Vance is a horrible pick and you know it. You may need to dust of some Palin lines about lipstick on a pig.

(07-29-2024 03:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:19 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:09 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The Vance pick is more of an insurance pick for the MAGA wing. The left already tried to kill Trump, if Vance were to step in, you still have to deal with a populist right winger who is out to do the same things Trump is. That’s why he was picked.

That's ******* nonsense. That ****** up kid searched for events of Biden and trump both...trump happened to be the closest to him.

Is this your attempt to change the subject? Why not respond to my actual point instead of that? Why deflect away?

Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

Well, maybe you should have just stated that...as I pretty much agree with you. But I think the other two would have done about the same...and they're WAY more likeable than Vance.

Vance is a walking, talking billboard for Project 2025...the thing trump is trying like hell to distance himself from.

(07-29-2024 03:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:19 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That's ******* nonsense. That ****** up kid searched for events of Biden and trump both...trump happened to be the closest to him.

Is this your attempt to change the subject? Why not respond to my actual point instead of that? Why deflect away?

Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

Well, maybe you should have just stated that...as I pretty much agree with you. But I think the other two would have done about the same...and they're WAY more likeable than Vance.

Vance is a walking, talking billboard for Project 2025...the thing trump is trying like hell to distance himself from.

Now we know what you did during your vacation.....Caught up on your Dem talking points.

The fear and desperation is so palpable.

(07-29-2024 03:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:19 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That's ******* nonsense. That ****** up kid searched for events of Biden and trump both...trump happened to be the closest to him.

Is this your attempt to change the subject? Why not respond to my actual point instead of that? Why deflect away?

Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

Well, maybe you should have just stated that...as I pretty much agree with you. But I think the other two would have done about the same...and they're WAY more likeable than Vance.

Vance is a walking, talking billboard for Project 2025...the thing trump is trying like hell to distance himself from.

I stated it multiple times but you tried to change the topic.

Vance was a MAGA insurance pick so in case something happened to Trump, then his agenda would still move forward. That’s more important to him than the pretend land of VPs making or breaking elections.

(07-29-2024 03:47 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:19 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Is this your attempt to change the subject? Why not respond to my actual point instead of that? Why deflect away?

Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

Well, maybe you should have just stated that...as I pretty much agree with you. But I think the other two would have done about the same...and they're WAY more likeable than Vance.

Vance is a walking, talking billboard for Project 2025...the thing trump is trying like hell to distance himself from.

Now we know what you did during your vacation.....Caught up on your Dem talking points.

The fear and desperation is so palpable.

Tom has his tongue so far up Kamalas ass that he can taste what Willie Brown had for breakfast. Because, its what independent voters do.

(07-29-2024 04:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:47 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Change what subject? trump isn't going anywhere and I don't think Vance adds squat. trump already has Ohio locked up.

Those are my opinions.

Every VP selection is overstated and adds nothing electorally. The same would have been said if Trump chose Bergum or Haley.

But Vance will do everything he can to help Trump and forward his agenda. That’s what matters to any POTUS. That’s my point.

Well, maybe you should have just stated that...as I pretty much agree with you. But I think the other two would have done about the same...and they're WAY more likeable than Vance.

Vance is a walking, talking billboard for Project 2025...the thing trump is trying like hell to distance himself from.

Now we know what you did during your vacation.....Caught up on your Dem talking points.

The fear and desperation is so palpable.

Tom has his tongue so far up Kamalas ass that he can taste what Willie Brown had for breakfast. Because, its what independent voters do.

(07-29-2024 03:47 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  The fear and desperation is so palpable.

(07-29-2024 04:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Tom has his tongue so far up Kamalas ass that he can taste what Willie Brown had for breakfast. Because, its what independent voters do.

That's high quality right there - Well done!

(07-30-2024 02:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Plan C will come to fruition soon enough.

Plan C. Milwaukee. Philadelphia. Atlanta. Detroit. This is where the steal will happen.

(07-30-2024 04:41 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Plan C will come to fruition soon enough.

Plan C

(07-30-2024 04:41 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Plan C will come to fruition soon enough.

Plan C.

(07-30-2024 04:41 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 02:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Plan C will come to fruition soon enough.

Plan C.

Free and fair elections only occur when we have an honest and transparent vote count. Many don't feel that was the case in the 2020 presidential election or the 2022 midterms.

Venezuela just had an election and most don't trust the count. Funny how the corporate media isn't very interested in reporting what's happening down there since their election.

(07-30-2024 05:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  Free and fair elections only occur when we have an honest and transparent vote count. Many don't feel that was the case in the 2020 presidential election or the 2022 midterms.

Venezuela just had an election and most don't trust the count. Funny how the corporate media isn't very interested in reporting what's happening down there since their election.

I know. It's almost as if they're covering something up. I can't tell what it is though. Hmm...

/sarcasm

In all seriousness, you can't sit there and tell me absolutely nothing fishy happened Election Night in 2020 when I saw it unfold on live television with my own eyes. it's like the left telling us all the clips of Biden falling down are "cheap fakes" in the leadup to THE DEBATE THAT CHANGED 2024!

(07-29-2024 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-29-2024 03:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  For the dem leadership, they are admitting the election for the whitehouse is almost certainly over. Sure, they would love to win, but what we are seeing isnt so much about that as it is to try to not get demolished in the down ballots, while not allowing another clusterf*ck to happen in 4 years.

It was clear that Biden* was causing an issue where the down ballots were skyscreaming that they were about to get pummelled. SO they needed to try someone else who would at least get people to the polls. They would have preferred it to NOT be Kamala, but since the whitehouse is likely gone, they decided to run her (for now) so that when she gets her brains bashed in she wouldnt be around in 4 years. Had they handed this off to someone else without trying Kamala first, then that person would have likely also lost, and black women would be throwing a revolt if in 4 years it wasnt Kamala. So they decided to coronate her now, and if she falls on her face they can replace her without having to deal with her again in 4 years.

The real issue the dems have is the senate. Right now there are 50 fairly safe seats for the republicans, and about 43 for the democrats. There are 5 seats leaning dems, and 2 tossups. The tossups are MT and OH, which dems could easily lose and are virtually guaranteed to lose if any of the dems in those states fail to show up. The other 5 leaning dems are in swing states, and if dems cant get the vote out, those seats are in jeopardy.

So, why all the barking from dems and Chuck Schumer over Jd Vance. Because JD Vance has the appalachian connection, which is going to play well in OH, PA, MI, 3 of the states where democrats need to hold senate seats.

The dems could also take a beatdown in the house if the votes dont show up. But the HOR is about as gone for the dems as the whitehouse is. The dems are scrambling trying to prevent a rout in the senate, which would take a full 6 years to correct, or longer. If dems lose in OH and MT, it may be forever before those seats can be challenged again by the dems.

This makes ZERO sense. Vance does nothing for trump in PA, MI, or OH. He's already going to win Ohio...and the senate polling showed that the dem senate candidates wildly outperforming their R candidates compared to how Biden was doing vs. trump.

Vance is a horrible pick and you know it. You may need to dust of some Palin lines about lipstick on a pig.

Vance is far better running mate for Trump and the Republicans than kamala is as a top of the ticket candidate for the democrats. kamala is reaching way, way, way up over her head trying to grasp the presidency. Willie Brown won't be there to repay kamala's 'favors' and give her the job this time.

(07-30-2024 09:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(07-30-2024 05:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  Free and fair elections only occur when we have an honest and transparent vote count. Many don't feel that was the case in the 2020 presidential election or the 2022 midterms.

Venezuela just had an election and most don't trust the count. Funny how the corporate media isn't very interested in reporting what's happening down there since their election.

I know. It's almost as if they're covering something up. I can't tell what it is though. Hmm...

/sarcasm

In all seriousness, you can't sit there and tell me absolutely nothing fishy happened Election Night in 2020 when I saw it unfold on live television with my own eyes. it's like the left telling us all the clips of Biden falling down are "cheap fakes" in the leadup to THE DEBATE THAT CHANGED 2024!

We are in agreement. I believe the only hope for keeping the left from a repeat of 2020 is to have legitimate poll watchers at every key voting location in swing states, and increase the right's voter turnout in swing states to the point that the left can't manufacture enough fraudulent votes in their liberal enclaves to compensate for their deficiency.

This utter delusion, STILL, that the 2020 election was stolen is so ridiculous.

Literally nothing extraordinary happened, outside of the biggest turnout in our history, yet you mopes swallow every pathetic excuse from your cult leader. Just because you have no working understanding of how things are actually done on election night doesn't mean something nefarious happened.

Your orange overlord played you like a fiddle and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.