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Right now she hasn’t been asked any questions. She definitely hasn’t been doing anything. Just wait until the rubber hits the road
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I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters

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(07-28-2024 08:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters
It depends exactly what is said, how it’s said, etc. Agree it’s a delicate subject, but the role of DEI is a legit political topic.
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(07-28-2024 08:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters

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Staying away from a Marxist ideology keeps you from losing voters?

DEI is nothing more than an acronym to disguise a socialist wealth redistribution scheme.

Anyone who believes in this communist garbage isn't voting for Trump anyway. It is incumbent on EVERY conservative candidate to get the real DEI message out to boomers and older generation X voters.

The Didn't Earn It ideology might play well in liberal states like New York and California but swing state voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania don't support that garbage.

When our enemy complains about us targeting anything, you don't stop the attack, you double down.
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If Comrade Kamala and her campaign believes attacking the life of a man from Appalachia who joined the Marine Corps out of high school and used the GI bill to attend a university, is sound strategy, let them have at it.

Our idiot governor here in Kentucky, already made that mistake. He called Beshear a fake. A governor whose Daddy put him through college and basically paid for everything his whole life has the balls to call anyone else fake.

Please, please, please by all means carry this Vance is a fake and phoney narrative into Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan and Ohio, see how that works out for you Comrade.

I know Vance was born in Middletown, Ohio but Appalachian roots run deep. As a proud Appalachian American I can confirm everything in Hillbilly Ellergy is true and worse. People from the mountains are intensely proud and don't care much about people from the outside talking down to them and that's all Kamala does.
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(07-28-2024 10:03 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  If Comrade Kamala and her campaign believes attacking the life of a man from Appalachia who joined the Marine Corps out of high school and used the GI bill to attend a university, is sound strategy, let them have at it.

Our idiot governor here in Kentucky, already made that mistake. He called Beshear a fake. A governor whose Daddy put him through college and basically paid for everything his whole life has the balls to call anyone else fake.

Please, please, please by all means carry this Vance is a fake and phoney narrative into Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan and Ohio, see how that works out for you Comrade.

I know Vance was born in Middletown, Ohio but Appalachian roots run deep. As a proud Appalachian American I can confirm everything in Hillbilly Ellergy is true and worse. People from the mountains are intensely proud and don't care much about people from the outside talking down to them and that's all Kamala does.

If the Reps were smart, (and they're not) they should show a picture of Vance in his Marine uniform with the words, "this man wore the uniform in Iraq and Kamala decided to besmirched his service."
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(07-28-2024 09:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-28-2024 08:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters

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Really?
Staying away from a Marxist ideology keeps you from losing voters?

DEI is nothing more than an acronym to disguise a socialist wealth redistribution scheme.

Anyone who believes in this communist garbage isn't voting for Trump anyway. It is incumbent on EVERY conservative candidate to get the real DEI message out to boomers and older generation X voters.

The Didn't Earn It ideology might play well in liberal states like New York and California but swing state voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania don't support that garbage.

When our enemy complains about us targeting anything, you don't stop the attack, you double down.

His is a typical response from fence sitting Gen Xr's. They think the left can be reasoned with and that true compromises can be gained. Even before they went full marx the left's idea of compromise is an arrangement in which they get everything they negotiate for while their opponent get's nothing. There is no compromise on any issue that the modern democrat party endorses or supports as far as I'm concerned. They have exceeded the limits of what is reasonable behavior in an ordered society.

I'm trying to convince my own adult children that the existential threat of their lifetime will be when we lose this republic of ours to communism. There are elements HARD at work trying to affect those results as I sit here typing. They are well funded, they are well organized and they are mobilized. Both of my adult children take the position that they just want to get on with living their lives and besides, what can they do?

My son is extremely intelligent and a very effective public speaker, he is articulate as hell and our new VP nominee reminds me of him. I've told him what he can do *, he's just too lazy to do it, or maybe he just isn't sure about how to get started, I don't know. Anyone looking for a way to become involved can find and join associations of like minded people, run for a school board spot, run for any kind of public office at the local level, change is most possible at that level, I truly believe that, find boards on which to run for a position, become a poll watcher, become a neighborhood canvasser, etc et al.

I think he lacks the ability to project current events onto the fabric of our future as a country, I think many of them do. I did when I was their age. Call it apathy, perhaps borne of frustration, but apathy nonetheless.

Our world is a scary place now, more than at any other time in my life. I never felt this threatened even as I hid under a desk at school or sat in the hallway with my head pulled down between my knees back in the 60's. I'm ready to disembark and head on to my next iteration.

Note * I should heed my own advice here but I can rationalize away why I don't.
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(07-29-2024 08:01 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  His is a typical response from fence sitting Gen Xr's. They think the left can be reasoned with and that true compromises can be gained. Even before they went full marx the left's idea of compromise is an arrangement in which they get everything they negotiate for while their opponent get's nothing. There is no compromise on any issue that the modern democrat party endorses or supports as far as I'm concerned. They have exceeded the limits of what is reasonable behavior in an ordered society.

I'm trying to convince my own adult children that the existential threat of their lifetime will be when we lose this republic of ours to communism. There are elements HARD at work trying to affect those results as I sit here typing. They are well funded, they are well organized and they are mobilized. Both of my adult children take the position that they just want to get on with living their lives and besides, what can they do?

My son is extremely intelligent and a very effective public speaker, he is articulate as hell and our new VP nominee reminds me of him. I've told him what he can do *, he's just too lazy to do it, or maybe he just isn't sure about how to get started, I don't know. Anyone looking for a way to become involved can find and join associations of like minded people, run for a school board spot, run for any kind of public office at the local level, change is most possible at that level, I truly believe that, find boards on which to run for a position, become a poll watcher, become a neighborhood canvasser, etc et al.

I think he lacks the ability to project current events onto the fabric of our future as a country, I think many of them do. I did when I was their age. Call it apathy, perhaps borne of frustration, but apathy nonetheless.

Our world is a scary place now, more than at any other time in my life. I never felt this threatened even as I hid under a desk at school or sat in the hallway with my head pulled down between my knees back in the 60's. I'm ready to disembark and head on to my next iteration.

Note * I should heed my own advice here but I can rationalize away why I don't.


Just be sure you are really prepared so you end up in the right place.

"I am the WAY, the TRUTH and THE LIFE and no one comes to the Father but by ME."

If you lack the proper faith then ASK FOR IT. He stands at the door knocking. Just open up and let Him in. Pray and ask for faith.

Examine the evidence out there. There are some tremendous apologetic ministries that can really build and educate your faith, and remove doubt and double mindedness. With faith and prayer you can move mountains. Look at cold case Christianity, look up Cross Examined with Frank Turek. Check out Joshua McDowell evidence that demands a verdict. Check out Discover the Book ministries with John Barnett. These guys have all you could ever need on youtube.

And remember its on HIS terms, not yours. Its not about what you grew up in or a denomination or any of that stuff. The Gospel is about a personal faith and salvation directly through Jesus alone, not with others in between you and Him. Its fine to seek out others for support and edification but salvation is between you and Jesus alone with no man or woman inbetween you. That is very specifically what Jesus, Paul ,Peter and John taught in the NT. Its not about being Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or any of that stuff. Look at what happened with Paul on the road to Damascus, look at what happened with Peter after he denied Him. It was personal and between them and Jesus with no one in between.

Go DIRECTLY to Him and ask for faith and strength. He WILL answer if you do it with all your heart. 04-cheers
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I'm confused.. I thought it was the cool thing to have DEI hires, but now it's a slur because they're DEI hires?
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(07-29-2024 08:22 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(07-29-2024 08:01 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  His is a typical response from fence sitting Gen Xr's. They think the left can be reasoned with and that true compromises can be gained. Even before they went full marx the left's idea of compromise is an arrangement in which they get everything they negotiate for while their opponent get's nothing. There is no compromise on any issue that the modern democrat party endorses or supports as far as I'm concerned. They have exceeded the limits of what is reasonable behavior in an ordered society.

I'm trying to convince my own adult children that the existential threat of their lifetime will be when we lose this republic of ours to communism. There are elements HARD at work trying to affect those results as I sit here typing. They are well funded, they are well organized and they are mobilized. Both of my adult children take the position that they just want to get on with living their lives and besides, what can they do?

My son is extremely intelligent and a very effective public speaker, he is articulate as hell and our new VP nominee reminds me of him. I've told him what he can do *, he's just too lazy to do it, or maybe he just isn't sure about how to get started, I don't know. Anyone looking for a way to become involved can find and join associations of like minded people, run for a school board spot, run for any kind of public office at the local level, change is most possible at that level, I truly believe that, find boards on which to run for a position, become a poll watcher, become a neighborhood canvasser, etc et al.

I think he lacks the ability to project current events onto the fabric of our future as a country, I think many of them do. I did when I was their age. Call it apathy, perhaps borne of frustration, but apathy nonetheless.

Our world is a scary place now, more than at any other time in my life. I never felt this threatened even as I hid under a desk at school or sat in the hallway with my head pulled down between my knees back in the 60's. I'm ready to disembark and head on to my next iteration.

Note * I should heed my own advice here but I can rationalize away why I don't.


Just be sure you are really prepared so you end up in the right place.

"I am the WAY, the TRUTH and THE LIFE and no one comes to the Father but by ME."

If you lack the proper faith then ASK FOR IT. He stands at the door knocking. Just open up and let Him in. Pray and ask for faith.

Examine the evidence out there. There are some tremendous apologetic ministries that can really build and educate your faith, and remove doubt and double mindedness. With faith and prayer you can move mountains. Look at cold case Christianity, look up Cross Examined with Frank Turek. Check out Joshua McDowell evidence that demands a verdict. Check out Discover the Book ministries with John Barnett. These guys have all you could ever need on youtube.

And remember its on HIS terms, not yours. Its not about what you grew up in or a denomination or any of that stuff. The Gospel is about a personal faith and salvation directly through Jesus alone, not with others in between you and Him. Its fine to seek out others for support and edification but salvation is between you and Jesus alone with no man or woman inbetween you. That is very specifically what Jesus, Paul ,Peter and John taught in the NT. Its not about being Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or any of that stuff. Look at what happened with Paul on the road to Damascus, look at what happened with Peter after he denied Him. It was personal and between them and Jesus with no one in between.

Go DIRECTLY to Him and ask for faith and strength. He WILL answer if you do it with all your heart. 04-cheers

It's been on my mind a lot lately.
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(07-29-2024 08:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm confused.. I thought it was the cool thing to have DEI hires, but now it's a slur because they're DEI hires?

Most VP's are "DEI hires". They aren't picked because of their qualifications or merits, they are picked because they balance out a ticket and potentially appeal to some region or group of people that might be shaky for the top of the ticket. Pence wasn't picked for any reason other than appealing to evangelical voters. Biden as VP was literally picked because he was an old pretty racist white man specifically for those reasons.

Sure, Copmala was coming off an embarrassing primary performance prior to being selected, Biden had put in 3 embarrassing primary performances prior to being selected including having to drop out because he was literally caught plagiarizing speeches. Look at who is on Copmala's short list of VP candidates right now, it's exclusively white men. Will whichever generic boring white man she picks be a DEI hire to this board, or does hiring someone in large part because of their physical characteristics only apply if it's not a white man?
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(07-29-2024 08:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm confused.. I thought it was the cool thing to have DEI hires, but now it's a slur because they're DEI hires?

It's still cool when it's mentioned as pandering. It's when the short comings, real or perceived, are pointed out is when DEI becomes a slur.

Unfortunately that's a byproduct of a system that values skin color, sex or both in place of skill and ability.
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(07-29-2024 08:01 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-28-2024 09:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-28-2024 08:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters

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Really?
Staying away from a Marxist ideology keeps you from losing voters?

DEI is nothing more than an acronym to disguise a socialist wealth redistribution scheme.

Anyone who believes in this communist garbage isn't voting for Trump anyway. It is incumbent on EVERY conservative candidate to get the real DEI message out to boomers and older generation X voters.

The Didn't Earn It ideology might play well in liberal states like New York and California but swing state voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania don't support that garbage.

When our enemy complains about us targeting anything, you don't stop the attack, you double down.

His is a typical response from fence sitting Gen Xr's.

What the hell does this even mean?
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(07-28-2024 06:56 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Right now she hasn’t been asked any questions.

First the MSM has to write the questions - and more importantly for Harris - the answers.
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(07-29-2024 08:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(07-29-2024 08:32 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm confused.. I thought it was the cool thing to have DEI hires, but now it's a slur because they're DEI hires?

Most VP's are "DEI hires". They aren't picked because of their qualifications or merits, they are picked because they balance out a ticket and potentially appeal to some region or group of people that might be shaky for the top of the ticket. Pence wasn't picked for any reason other than appealing to evangelical voters. Biden as VP was literally picked because he was an old pretty racist white man specifically for those reasons.

Sure, Copmala was coming off an embarrassing primary performance prior to being selected, Biden had put in 3 embarrassing primary performances prior to being selected including having to drop out because he was literally caught plagiarizing speeches. Look at who is on Copmala's short list of VP candidates right now, it's exclusively white men. Will whichever generic boring white man she picks be a DEI hire to this board, or does hiring someone in large part because of their physical characteristics only apply if it's not a white man?

I don't recall anyone else saying: I'm gonna pick a boring old white man as my running mate...

I do recall Biden saying he was going to pick a woman that is a POC though...
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(07-28-2024 12:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(07-28-2024 10:03 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  If Comrade Kamala and her campaign believes attacking the life of a man from Appalachia who joined the Marine Corps out of high school and used the GI bill to attend a university, is sound strategy, let them have at it.

Our idiot governor here in Kentucky, already made that mistake. He called Beshear a fake. A governor whose Daddy put him through college and basically paid for everything his whole life has the balls to call anyone else fake.

Please, please, please by all means carry this Vance is a fake and phoney narrative into Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan and Ohio, see how that works out for you Comrade.

I know Vance was born in Middletown, Ohio but Appalachian roots run deep. As a proud Appalachian American I can confirm everything in Hillbilly Ellergy is true and worse. People from the mountains are intensely proud and don't care much about people from the outside talking down to them and that's all Kamala does.

If the Reps were smart, (and they're not) they should show a picture of Vance in his Marine uniform with the words, "this man wore the uniform in Iraq and Kamala decided to besmirched his service."

Its already out there. I seent it
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(07-28-2024 09:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(07-28-2024 08:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I agree with the tweets, she should stay away from that and the GOP should stay away from the DEI comments. Neither wins any new voters and can only lose you voters
It depends exactly what is said, how it’s said, etc. Agree it’s a delicate subject, but the role of DEI is a legit political topic.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Calling Harris a DEI candidate, even though it may be true, will not win you any voters and will only lose you some.

DEI as a theory is absolutely fair game.
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