GermantownTiger
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 03:11 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote: (04-24-2024 11:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Hypothetical...
Army, Navy, UConn have shown no interest in an all-sports, football-centric conference so they are out. 62 teams = 8 divisions of 7-8 teams. Regular season division winners play in a 3 round playoff to get into CFP.
Northeast
UMass
Buffalo
Temple
Akron
Kent St
Ohio
Marshall
North
Cent Mich
East Mich
West Mic
Ball St
No Illinois
Bowling Green
Miami-OH
Toledo
Atlantic
App St
Charlotte
ECU
Coastal Car
James Mad
Liberty
Old Dominion
Southeast
Ga St
Ga Southern
FAU
FIU
USF
Jacksonville St
So Alabama
Troy
South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
Southwest
Tulane
Louisiana
Tulsa
No Texas
Rice
Sam Houston
Texas St
UTSA
Mountain
UTEP
Air Force
Colorado St
Boise
New Mex
New Mex St
Utah St
Wyoming
Pacific
Wash St
Oregon St
San Jose
Fresno
SDSU
UNLV
Nevada
Hawaii
Just shoot me.
It's Single A baseball for us HAVENOTS...Triple A is for the HAVES.
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Tiger46
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 12:55 PM)micman Wrote: I am assuming that the P4 is looking to eliminate the G5 representative in the 12 team playoff. I assume this move is to help the G5 try to control the narrative ahead of the pending blow.
I read a story that had some language which indicated they may not have to choose a G5 if there are enough higher rated teams. I don't know if that is true or not.
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bluebacker
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 09:15 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Does the G5 representative to the CFP get a larger cut than the other G5 schools, or is it all evenly split?
I am all for controlling our own destiny, and the new payout structure is certainly offensive to the G5. However, Memphis has made it clear that we want to compete at the top - not at the kids' table.
It's all the same. The last I saw the G5 rep didn't get any additional money.
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fsquid
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 04:44 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: (04-24-2024 12:55 PM)micman Wrote: I am assuming that the P4 is looking to eliminate the G5 representative in the 12 team playoff. I assume this move is to help the G5 try to control the narrative ahead of the pending blow.
I read a story that had some language which indicated they may not have to choose a G5 if there are enough higher rated teams. I don't know if that is true or not.
From what I'm reading 2024 is the only year where the G5 spot is guaranteed
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bluebacker
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RE: The separation begins.....
South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
This sucks ****.
(This post was last modified: 04-24-2024 04:49 PM by bluebacker.)
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Crazier
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 04:49 PM)bluebacker Wrote: South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
This sucks ****.
It is bad. Regional conferences are probably the future though. After college sports implode on themselves.
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RockyMTNTiger
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 04:49 PM)bluebacker Wrote: South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
This sucks ****.
I can't ever, ever imagine the university agreeing to this hideous abomination. Better to form a last stand, Best of The Rest with similar thinking schools than go down with that pig.
(This post was last modified: 04-24-2024 05:48 PM by RockyMTNTiger.)
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Marc Mensa
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 05:47 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote: (04-24-2024 04:49 PM)bluebacker Wrote: South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
This sucks ****.
I can't ever, ever imagine the university agreeing to this hideous abomination. Better to form a last stand, Best of The Rest with similar thinking schools than go down with that pig.
If we ever get to that point, then why bother? Move the bb games to the field house & football back to Crump.
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Eagleonpar
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 08:37 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: (04-24-2024 08:17 AM)BERT56 Wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1011...s-from-cfp
The NCAA is closing in on being an obsolete entity at this point. I guess the problem is - how much money could a separate G5 entity really garner versus the CFP? Is the plan just to form a completely new division? Do they really think the G5 is going to garner more media desire than the FCS at this point to make it worthwhile?
It is clear that the power resides with the CFP and the Power schools, and they're creating a monopoly of power and pull in politics and television.
Honestly, as long as the G5 has a spot in the CFP, I do not see any reason to try and form a new division. And if you're the schools happy with pushing for a CFP spot, form a new conference and tag in to the CFP.
To me, that's really is going to be the caveat here. I do think there is going to be a battle between the Mountain West and The American the next few years to put together a good enough conference to stay with the Power 4 conferences and let the G4 break away.
The ncaa really hasn’t had anything to do with college football other than the enforcement arm which of course really hasn’t touched the power schools. They hurt Miami and USC but haven’t touched the Ohio State’s and Bama’s. Their only bell cow is March madness. And that is in jeopardy due to the almighty football tv dollar. Yet we keep watching Bama vs Georgia or Ohio State. It’s not all the ncaa’s fault. As with everything else in this world the blame lies with the media and the sponsors. Get ready for more of Flo, Mayhem, The Emu and the drug companies
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 11:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
That would be enough to free up Saturdays to do whatever for me
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04-25-2024 08:13 AM |
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Tiger87
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RE: The separation begins.....
meh
I'll watch them no matter who they play.
We've never had a real shot at a championship in football anyway. It MIGHT be fun to be the top dog in the group. But I would NOT agree to Memphis getting the same share of revenue as La-Monroe or Akron.
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RE: The separation begins.....
I think we need to hope that ESPN and the Top of the P2 along with ND, FSU, and Clemson, decide that Vanderbilt, Indiana, the Mississippi schools, Rutgers, and the like, are dragging them down and separate into a smaller, 24 team NFL-lite league. Then everyone else is in the the regional football NCAA league and we can go back to more like the 1970s era.
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RE: The separation begins.....
One thing to note is that this story isn't showing up on ESPN. Why? Because it doesn't play in their favor since they are paying the $$$$ to the big boys for the new CFP format and make the decisions in who is in and who is out of the conferences. Bad visual - no?
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RE: The separation begins.....
If the G5 breaks away it needs to be a clean one. No more basketball or baseball or olympic sports. Let them fill their schedules with only themselves.
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-26-2024 01:13 PM)dcg141 Wrote: If the G5 breaks away it needs to be a clean one. No more basketball or baseball or olympic sports. Let them fill their schedules with only themselves.
That's what they plan on doing. They want all the tv money.
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RE: The separation begins.....
I understand this type of separation is being orchestrated by the strongest P2 schools like AL, UGA, OSU, UM etc. However, it's arrogant approach supported by their P2 compatriots (& the other P4 programs) is disgusting. Memphis in most years over the past decade has been a top 30 FB program & in several years a top 15 FB program. We have beaten an Ole Miss team two weeks after they beat the #1 AL team. We score more points against a Penn St team than any in the B1G, we have beat other SEC & B12 programs AND YET the powers that be want arbitrarily to dismiss us in favor of Vandy, Purdue, Indiana, ISU, MSU, UCLA and others that we have or could beat regularly. If we are regularly a top 30 program, why should we be left out in favor of these "power" programs who regularly are ranked below us & be automatically relegated to a level below the avg "power" school?
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-26-2024 10:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote: I understand this type of separation is being orchestrated by the strongest P2 schools like AL, UGA, OSU, UM etc. However, it's arrogant approach supported by their P2 compatriots (& the other P4 programs) is disgusting. Memphis in most years over the past decade has been a top 30 FB program & in several years a top 15 FB program. We have beaten an Ole Miss team two weeks after they beat the #1 AL team. We score more points against a Penn St team than any in the B1G, we have beat other SEC & B12 programs AND YET the powers that be want arbitrarily to dismiss us in favor of Vandy, Purdue, Indiana, ISU, MSU, UCLA and others that we have or could beat regularly. If we are regularly a top 30 program, why should we be left out in favor of these "power" programs who regularly are ranked below us & be automatically relegated to a level below the avg "power" school?
Money? How much TV revenue is there in our market compared to those others?
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Tiger87
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-27-2024 07:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-26-2024 10:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote: I understand this type of separation is being orchestrated by the strongest P2 schools like AL, UGA, OSU, UM etc. However, it's arrogant approach supported by their P2 compatriots (& the other P4 programs) is disgusting. Memphis in most years over the past decade has been a top 30 FB program & in several years a top 15 FB program. We have beaten an Ole Miss team two weeks after they beat the #1 AL team. We score more points against a Penn St team than any in the B1G, we have beat other SEC & B12 programs AND YET the powers that be want arbitrarily to dismiss us in favor of Vandy, Purdue, Indiana, ISU, MSU, UCLA and others that we have or could beat regularly. If we are regularly a top 30 program, why should we be left out in favor of these "power" programs who regularly are ranked below us & be automatically relegated to a level below the avg "power" school?
Money? How much TV revenue is there in our market compared to those others?
Well, we are starting from an uneven playing field, so it's handicapped. Give us the SEC schedule that Miss State plays every year, and then let's talk.
Even so, I venture to say our ratings are as good or better than Miss State, Vandy - and maybe Mizzou, Arky, and Old Miss.
Compare our AAC conference game ratings to Old Miss buy games, and let us know.
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-27-2024 07:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-26-2024 10:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote: I understand this type of separation is being orchestrated by the strongest P2 schools like AL, UGA, OSU, UM etc. However, it's arrogant approach supported by their P2 compatriots (& the other P4 programs) is disgusting. Memphis in most years over the past decade has been a top 30 FB program & in several years a top 15 FB program. We have beaten an Ole Miss team two weeks after they beat the #1 AL team. We score more points against a Penn St team than any in the B1G, we have beat other SEC & B12 programs AND YET the powers that be want arbitrarily to dismiss us in favor of Vandy, Purdue, Indiana, ISU, MSU, UCLA and others that we have or could beat regularly. If we are regularly a top 30 program, why should we be left out in favor of these "power" programs who regularly are ranked below us & be automatically relegated to a level below the avg "power" school?
Money? How much TV revenue is there in our market compared to those others?
Honestly, I believe our market & market draw would be much better than several of the B1G & SEC schools IF they played our schedule(or if we played their schedules). And I believe we could beat these several SEC & B1G schools most years. That's why I consider it pure arrogance when I hear reps from those mediocre schools or the media arbitrarily relegate us to a "G5" level.
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RE: The separation begins.....
(04-24-2024 04:49 PM)bluebacker Wrote: South
Memphis
MTSU
Arky St
Western Ky
UAB
So Miss
La Tech
La Monroe
This sucks ****.
That's not any worse than the conference we are already in. SMU is gone. Tulane and USF will get the next call up, if there is one.
It's like comparing the Sun Belt to CUSA... the AAC is the same, just throw them in that triangular pile of ****. There is no real difference is any of them or the pile of **** that was posted above.
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