(04-17-2024 05:25 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 04:36 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Buh bye. Adios. Sayonara. Auf Wiedersehen.

Given that the Spring game has yet to happen, I gotta believe that a message about potential playing time was delivered.

I might be misinterpreting you, but are you saying that Tuck might have been told he wasn't going to get much playing time this year? That's wild....I assumed he was one of a few guaranteed starters on the team with so many DL guys transferring/graduating.

Yeah…dude was gonna be a starter. This is about him moving to a school with more visibility

(04-17-2024 05:37 PM)14SemesterDuke Wrote:  Yeah…dude was gonna be a starter. This is about him moving to a school with more visibility

Maybe? We also have a lot of mouths to feed on the DL with some new transfers. This tells me we might be better along the DL than I thought. But who knows. Let's see where he lands.

(04-17-2024 05:35 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:25 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 04:36 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Buh bye. Adios. Sayonara. Auf Wiedersehen.

Given that the Spring game has yet to happen, I gotta believe that a message about potential playing time was delivered.

I might be misinterpreting you, but are you saying that Tuck might have been told he wasn't going to get much playing time this year? That's wild....I assumed he was one of a few guaranteed starters on the team with so many DL guys transferring/graduating.

I believe it was playing time AT ANOtHER SCHOOL communicated via meddling. NIL $$ is also a factor.

(04-17-2024 05:25 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 04:36 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Buh bye. Adios. Sayonara. Auf Wiedersehen.

I’m with you! Goodbye, those that stay will be champions. It’s definitely about being courted elsewhere, that crew recently just got in on chasing a similar player from another G5 that was just on record as coming back but then jumped into the portal as well. And it’s getting old with the crap like #forevergodukes…f$&* that, just finish up with your Venmo or or payment plan you’re looking to fill.

(04-17-2024 05:27 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:18 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  You can't blame a kid for chasing the money or making moves that might increase his chances of playing at the next level. However I can say that with every kid that leaves I have less and less interest in following JMU teams. I've already switched all of my donation away from the Duke Club and toward other areas of the university.

This.

IMHO, the athletic department's impact on the university the last decade, and especially the last couple years, is unquestionable. Players may be changing with more frequency, but there have been thousands of players over that decade, many in the most popular roles not being in that role for 2+ years. The only constant in this period has been the name on the front of the jersey (and Bourne). So I just don't understand how donors can see football and MBB transfers (especially in years of coaching turnovers) and decide athletics is no longer worthy of financial support.

(04-17-2024 05:43 PM)Dukes86 Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:37 PM)14SemesterDuke Wrote:  Yeah…dude was gonna be a starter. This is about him moving to a school with more visibility

Maybe? We also have a lot of mouths to feed on the DL with some new transfers. This tells me we might be better along the DL than I thought. But who knows. Let's see where he lands.

(04-17-2024 05:54 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:35 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:25 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 04:36 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Buh bye. Adios. Sayonara. Auf Wiedersehen.

Given that the Spring game has yet to happen, I gotta believe that a message about potential playing time was delivered.

I might be misinterpreting you, but are you saying that Tuck might have been told he wasn't going to get much playing time this year? That's wild....I assumed he was one of a few guaranteed starters on the team with so many DL guys transferring/graduating.

I believe it was playing time AT ANOtHER SCHOOL communicated via meddling. NIL $$ is also a factor.

Not a lot of mouths to feed at DT, and definitely not at DT that are FBS caliber or sized.

And I agree with Longhorn- someone got in his ear.

Rapidly getting into the mindset of Chicago Duke and DukeDawg in terms of my level of rooting. I don't blame the kids (per se), but hate the system that was allowed to be put in place with little to no rules or guardrails. Classic leap before you look.

(04-17-2024 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:27 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:18 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  You can't blame a kid for chasing the money or making moves that might increase his chances of playing at the next level. However I can say that with every kid that leaves I have less and less interest in following JMU teams. I've already switched all of my donation away from the Duke Club and toward other areas of the university.

This.

IMHO, the athletic department's impact on the university the last decade, and especially the last couple years, is unquestionable. Players may be changing with more frequency, but there have been thousands of players over that decade, many in the most popular roles not being in that role for 2+ years. The only constant in this period has been the name on the front of the jersey (and Bourne). So I just don't understand how donors can see football and MBB transfers (especially in years of coaching turnovers) and decide athletics is no longer worthy of financial support.

Because college sports is not the pros.

These are “our” guys, we watched them grow up, walk the same halls we did, sit in the same classes, go to the same parties.

There is a direct connection with them. Something you don’t get with pro athletes who live in stardom.

And when they leave, they come back and tailgate, sing the alma mater, root for the next crop.

You think Elijah Sarratt will ever step foot on jmu campus again? No chance.

But Jalen green will. And he’ll be remembered forever.

I want Jalen greens. Not Sarratts and Mcclouds.

The greens at jmu will disappear under this new system. And that’s a damn shame

(04-17-2024 06:57 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:27 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:18 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  You can't blame a kid for chasing the money or making moves that might increase his chances of playing at the next level. However I can say that with every kid that leaves I have less and less interest in following JMU teams. I've already switched all of my donation away from the Duke Club and toward other areas of the university.

This.

IMHO, the athletic department's impact on the university the last decade, and especially the last couple years, is unquestionable. Players may be changing with more frequency, but there have been thousands of players over that decade, many in the most popular roles not being in that role for 2+ years. The only constant in this period has been the name on the front of the jersey (and Bourne). So I just don't understand how donors can see football and MBB transfers (especially in years of coaching turnovers) and decide athletics is no longer worthy of financial support.

Because college sports is not the pros.

These are “our” guys, we watched them grow up, walk the same halls we did, sit in the same classes, go to the same parties.

There is a direct connection with them. Something you don’t get with pro athletes who live in stardom.

And when they leave, they come back and tailgate, sing the alma mater, root for the next crop.

You think Elijah Sarratt will ever step foot on jmu campus again? No chance.

But Jalen green will. And he’ll be remembered forever.

I want Jalen greens. Not Sarratts and Mcclouds.

The greens at jmu will disappear under this new system. And that’s a damn shame

I hear you and agree with you, but I’m certain even Green would’ve been gone much earlier had he had produced more prior to his last season. If he had any eligibility left he’d probably have been into the portal before the bowl game like the others.

Haha. Listen to Tyrique’s interview with Riggert last week. His actions are the complete opposite of what came out of his mouth.

These are immature young men that don’t know how to make quality long-term decisions. I didn’t either at that age.
Oh well, out with the old and in with the new.
If you changed your mind 180 degrees in the last week like a teenage girl, then that is probably good cause for some self reflection.

https://on.soundcloud.com/oeUQuQr3LvgN8bReA

To mimic our new AD - "Whatever".

The players need to do what they think is best and with limited life experience, it will work out or it won't.

Grown, middle age coaches do the same thing. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Unfortunately, the idea of collegiate athletics is as passe as amateurs in the Olympics. I don't like it. It is fun to think that underdogs in sports have a real shot or that everyone who competes in the Olympics does it out of nationalistic pride.

I root for JMU sports, because I enjoy it. The name on the back of the jersey, is frequently contributing and adding value to the university in terms of visibility, accolades, and even some revenue. I contribute to the Duke Club to recognize this value. It is rare that a person spends time on the JMU campus and does not connect well to it. My guess is many of our 1 year players will have lasting positive vibes related to JMU, it might not be the same as a 5 - 8 year player. Whatever.

Man. I thought I knew Tyrique…but alas I knew him not!

The portal and NIL has exacerbated short term greed at the expense of long term characteristics like loyalty, overcoming adversity, building character, patience and how to be a true teammate. I feel bad for these kids because one day the money is gone and so was the chance to have a true Alma mater, roots, and family. Mercenaries have no home (nor true fans) and that is really sad.

(04-17-2024 06:57 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:27 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:18 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  You can't blame a kid for chasing the money or making moves that might increase his chances of playing at the next level. However I can say that with every kid that leaves I have less and less interest in following JMU teams. I've already switched all of my donation away from the Duke Club and toward other areas of the university.

This.

IMHO, the athletic department's impact on the university the last decade, and especially the last couple years, is unquestionable. Players may be changing with more frequency, but there have been thousands of players over that decade, many in the most popular roles not being in that role for 2+ years. The only constant in this period has been the name on the front of the jersey (and Bourne). So I just don't understand how donors can see football and MBB transfers (especially in years of coaching turnovers) and decide athletics is no longer worthy of financial support.

Because college sports is not the pros.

These are “our” guys, we watched them grow up, walk the same halls we did, sit in the same classes, go to the same parties.

There is a direct connection with them. Something you don’t get with pro athletes who live in stardom.

And when they leave, they come back and tailgate, sing the alma mater, root for the next crop.

You think Elijah Sarratt will ever step foot on jmu campus again? No chance.

But Jalen green will. And he’ll be remembered forever.

I want Jalen greens. Not Sarratts and Mcclouds.

The greens at jmu will disappear under this new system. And that’s a damn shame

So you aren't supporting 500+ other student athletes, and an athletic department that is advancing JMU, because you are heartbroken over 15 guys. Thanks for clearing that up.

Well, this armchair AD says the surest way to ensure every decent player and coach leaves is to pull financial support. So long Top 25, we hardly knew ya.

(04-17-2024 08:15 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Haha. Listen to Tyrique’s interview with Riggert last week. His actions are the complete opposite of what came out of his mouth.

These are immature young men that don’t know how to make quality long-term decisions. I didn’t either at that age.
Oh well, out with the old and in with the new.
If you changed your mind 180 degrees in the last week like a teenage girl, then that is probably good cause for some self reflection.

https://on.soundcloud.com/oeUQuQr3LvgN8bReA

Watch where he ends up, and you'll understand. Watch the offers roll in. Someone at P5 had a need after spring ball and went shopping, though I am a little surprised they went for Tuck. Not a lot of proven production yet.

I'd like to imagine that I'd be above all of this $$$, but 6 figures at 20 would be hard to walk away from, regardless of my love for JMU.

(04-18-2024 06:53 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 08:15 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Haha. Listen to Tyrique’s interview with Riggert last week. His actions are the complete opposite of what came out of his mouth.

These are immature young men that don’t know how to make quality long-term decisions. I didn’t either at that age.
Oh well, out with the old and in with the new.
If you changed your mind 180 degrees in the last week like a teenage girl, then that is probably good cause for some self reflection.

https://on.soundcloud.com/oeUQuQr3LvgN8bReA

This is what gets me. It is all BS, pay me. Screw education, pay me. Loyalty and love? Pay me.

Watch where he ends up.

Watch him end up right back here...I love JMU, so glad to be back, #home...blah blah blah blah blah, and we're supposed to kiss his tail and be glad to have him back when the reality is he may have jumped in to the portal because School X reached out and he thought he had a deal but they shifted and grabbed player Y from a different school. And another kid that in 3 years we'll be told to feel sorry for because he's 3 semesters from graduating after being in school 6 years and transferring multiple times.

(04-17-2024 06:57 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 06:51 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:27 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:18 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  You can't blame a kid for chasing the money or making moves that might increase his chances of playing at the next level. However I can say that with every kid that leaves I have less and less interest in following JMU teams. I've already switched all of my donation away from the Duke Club and toward other areas of the university.

This.

IMHO, the athletic department's impact on the university the last decade, and especially the last couple years, is unquestionable. Players may be changing with more frequency, but there have been thousands of players over that decade, many in the most popular roles not being in that role for 2+ years. The only constant in this period has been the name on the front of the jersey (and Bourne). So I just don't understand how donors can see football and MBB transfers (especially in years of coaching turnovers) and decide athletics is no longer worthy of financial support.

Because college sports is not the pros.

These are “our” guys, we watched them grow up, walk the same halls we did, sit in the same classes, go to the same parties.

There is a direct connection with them. Something you don’t get with pro athletes who live in stardom.

And when they leave, they come back and tailgate, sing the alma mater, root for the next crop.

You think Elijah Sarratt will ever step foot on jmu campus again? No chance.

But Jalen green will. And he’ll be remembered forever.

I want Jalen greens. Not Sarratts and Mcclouds.

The greens at jmu will disappear under this new system. And that’s a damn shame

But then what about the Ben DiNucci's and Todd Centeio's. Both were 1 or 2 year transfers to JMU. Centeio was already back last year and DiNucci recently mentioned he doesn't follow Pitt football but very interested in JMU football.

Being involved with JMU post grad has nothing to do with the # of years you spend there, but your experience while at JMU.

One of the worst things with the portal for me is that I feel less inclined to get to know the players. I feel like a lot of what is being said is lip service. The interview with Tucker's last week is the best example of that.
This is the stuff I really hate about the portal.
I get that he probably is getting some money or a 'better opportunity'. But to declare your love for the place you are and then bail less than a week later makes me think it's all a load of BS.
For me as a fan, it's becoming less and less about the person wearing the jersey and more about a bunch of talented players wearing my school's colors.

We'll be fine. In fact we may even bring in a guy better than him.

Bottom line for any G5 is if you perform well freshman or sophomore year, youre getting paid to play somewhere else. The G5 is nothing but a feeder for the P5 now.

If, and its a very big if, we keep Ponds for this season, he is gone after this season. Until we can get our NIL to be the top of the G5 or even low P5 level, losing most of the talent on the roster every year will be the norm

(04-17-2024 05:54 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:35 PM)chicagoduke Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 05:25 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-17-2024 04:36 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Buh bye. Adios. Sayonara. Auf Wiedersehen.

Given that the Spring game has yet to happen, I gotta believe that a message about potential playing time was delivered.

I might be misinterpreting you, but are you saying that Tuck might have been told he wasn't going to get much playing time this year? That's wild....I assumed he was one of a few guaranteed starters on the team with so many DL guys transferring/graduating.

I believe it was playing time AT ANOtHER SCHOOL communicated via meddling. NIL $$ is also a factor.

Does anyone know how JMU is doing in regard to NIL? I haven’t seen any numbers posted, not that the MC should necessarily do that anyway. I have seen some on here say our NIL collective is for “retention” and not luring new players (those lines get blurred I would think). I also remember a number thrown out of 300K we had, but that was a long time ago. Does the coach tell the MC the players they would like to offer $$$ to? The MC is always asking for money, which is fine, and they support the Sound Off podcast. But how does this thing work? Who does the offering of money for “retention”… inquiring minds