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Most UK fans have wanted him to go for a while and losing to Oakland with a team of first round draft picks was the last straw. If you're going to be an obnoxious jerk you better win.
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(04-08-2024 06:41 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  This is looking like his replacement in Lexington 04-cheers


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That would be more entertaining than the Gillespie era meltdowns.
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(04-07-2024 11:10 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:08 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Rob Lanier the most powerful man in college basketball this off season lmao. Sounds like Alabama head coach Nate Oats is the favorite for the Kentucky job.


Take Drew from Baylor and they can go back to their rightful position

Kentucky or Baylor? 03-lmfao
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Maybe my fellow Friar Billy Donovan would consider a return to college basketball?
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(04-08-2024 12:21 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:10 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:08 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Rob Lanier the most powerful man in college basketball this off season lmao. Sounds like Alabama head coach Nate Oats is the favorite for the Kentucky job.

Take Drew from Baylor and they can go back to their rightful position

If Baylor loses Drew, they could always rehire the previous coach.

It's Kentucky, every top coach in America is under consideration and most will use it to get a raise. Here is my short list:
Scott Drew
T. J. Otzelberger
Chris Collins
Mark Pope

Chris Collins?!?!?! Bahahahahahaha

Is this you?

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(04-08-2024 05:44 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 01:14 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Leaving Kentucky basketball for Walmart U??? (sorry Arkansas fans you’re better than that, but still)

I’m not sure I like this at all.

I don't either. Musselman left this job for USC. If Calipari really wanted to leave he could have had USC or Louisville. Why go for a lesser job in your own conference? Why start over at 65?

(04-08-2024 05:52 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 01:28 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 01:14 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Leaving Kentucky basketball for Walmart U??? (sorry Arkansas fans you’re better than that, but still)

I’m not sure I like this at all.


People realize Arkansas is the 2nd best job in the conference right? It’s a drop from Kentucky but not as big of one as people are making it out to be. My guess is he’s tired of dealing with the hate from the fan base/BMDs and decided he’d take his system to a conference rival to stick it to them. Who knows the move might rejuvenate him and lead him to a resurgence. Ofc Kentucky fans are rejoicing as well. Will be interesting to see which program fares better the next five years.

Arkansas didn't even make the NCAA Tournament this year and 8 SEC teams did made it. They had a losing season. If Arkansas was so good, Musselman would have never left for a school which had its coach leave for freaking SMU. Now it was a down year for Arkansas and they knocked off the defending national champ Kansas last year but outside of Kentucky how about Alabama who just made the Final Four, Tennessee who has been knocking on the door the last few years, and Auburn under Bruce Pearl who won the SEC Tournament? I agree Arkansas is in the mix and one of the few SEC teams that has actually won a national championship in my lifetime (that means something) although "2nd best" is a bold statement.

You've proven once again your breadth of knowledge ends at the Mason-Dixon Line.
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(04-08-2024 12:30 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 12:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 12:21 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:10 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Take Drew from Baylor and they can go back to their rightful position

If Baylor loses Drew, they could always rehire the previous coach.

It's Kentucky, every top coach in America is under consideration and most will use it to get a raise. Here is my short list:
Scott Drew
T. J. Otzelberger
Chris Collins
Mark Pope

Meanwhile, UK fans are saying Dan Hurley, lol.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/forum...-forum.26/

Kentucky pays more than anybody else, and Hurley only makes $5m a year. If he's not at least in the conversation then he needs a new agent.

Hurley it’s a perfect fit in Connecticut.

Yes, Kentucky is a premier job but with NIO and all the pressure that Kentucky fans put on coaches I think not a slam dunk anymore
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I would be shocked if Dan Hurley left UConn for Kentucky. He's set for many more seasons in Storrs.

But Nate Oats ... that makes sense. He would be a strong fit in Lexington. Oats is cocky and hungry. He would embrace the challenges and pressure. I actually think he might thrive on all that.

Scott Drew would be a quality addition, too. But does he want to leave Baylor?

If I'm a UK fan, Oats is my top choice.
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(04-08-2024 01:04 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:18 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:08 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Rob Lanier the most powerful man in college basketball this off season lmao. Sounds like Alabama head coach Nate Oats is the favorite for the Kentucky job.

I’m not sure why anyone would want the UK job. They will never match the expectations of the fan base in the current SEC. Too many good teams.

Oats was .500 in the SEC just two seasons ago. Wildcat Nation would have run him outta town.

So what you are saying is you can't believe anybody would want the Alabama football head coach job?

Bama is a top job with a fan base that didn't want their coach to leave. Somebody had to take the very coveted job. UK is a fan base that wanted their very good coach to leave and he's about to for another SEC job.

Very different scenario.
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Big 12 programs might need protect Kansas' Bill Self and Houston's Kelvin Sampson from Kentucky.

The P2 Mega-Millions (new SEC Media deal starts 2024-25) hits their account later this year, so SEC teams might go on a spending spree for coaches.
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Would be wild for Calipari to bring along Orlando Antigua and Kenny Payne as his assistants for recruiting purposes. Wonder if he brings along his recruiting class at UK too.
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Yea, I don't think this is significantly more complicated than Cal deciding that he's too rich and too big of a name to spend the next couple years listening to drunk fans yell at him to resign. He'll be more appreciated at Arkansas and, for a few years at least, have almost entirely free reign to do what he wants.

I don't think Kentucky can just go out and get literally anyone they want, but you're talking about a very short list of coaches who probably say no after reworking their contracts and otherwise they'll have a killer interview list.
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(04-08-2024 09:03 AM)unalions Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 01:04 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:18 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:08 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Rob Lanier the most powerful man in college basketball this off season lmao. Sounds like Alabama head coach Nate Oats is the favorite for the Kentucky job.

I’m not sure why anyone would want the UK job. They will never match the expectations of the fan base in the current SEC. Too many good teams.

Oats was .500 in the SEC just two seasons ago. Wildcat Nation would have run him outta town.

So what you are saying is you can't believe anybody would want the Alabama football head coach job?

Bama is a top job with a fan base that didn't want their coach to leave. Somebody had to take the very coveted job. UK is a fan base that wanted their very good coach to leave and he's about to for another SEC job.

Very different scenario.
Basketball will always be far behind football at Alabama and the basketball coach at Alabama isn't a top job. How many national titles in basketball has UK won and how many has Alabama won. Calipari was pushed out.
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(04-08-2024 09:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Big 12 programs might need protect Kansas' Bill Self and Houston's Kelvin Sampson from Kentucky.

The P2 Mega-Millions (new SEC Media deal starts 2024-25) hits their account later this year, so SEC teams might go on a spending spree for coaches.

This assumes SEC schools are willing to spend the money on men's basketball coaches instead of spending even more money on head coaches in that other sport, not to mention coordinators and assistants. I'm sure there are SEC schools that care who their special teams coordinator (is that a job in college?) is than who their men's basketball coach is.
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(04-08-2024 09:38 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 09:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Big 12 programs might need protect Kansas' Bill Self and Houston's Kelvin Sampson from Kentucky.

The P2 Mega-Millions (new SEC Media deal starts 2024-25) hits their account later this year, so SEC teams might go on a spending spree for coaches.

This assumes SEC schools are willing to spend the money on men's basketball coaches instead of spending even more money on head coaches in that other sport, not to mention coordinators and assistants. I'm sure there are SEC schools that care who their special teams coordinator (is that a job in college?) is than who their men's basketball coach is.
Kentucky is the SEC's only Basketball First school, and they get football money because of their unique association. They can outspend any basketball first school in the nation for a coach. And by themselves they are top 20 in revenue for all sports. North Carolina is not. Duke managed it last year but usually is not. Kansas is not.

This statement of yours is one of the most ridiculously errant ones I've read on this board. Kentucky is THE basketball first school. Adolph Rupp won the Conference title the same year Bear Bryant (as Kentucky's football coach) won the SEC. At the sports banquet Rupp was presented a new Cadillac for his services. Bear got a watch. Bryant was gone the next year, to Alabama. It didn't bother the University of Kentucky.
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(04-08-2024 09:37 AM)Bluegrass80 Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 09:03 AM)unalions Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 01:04 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:18 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(04-07-2024 11:08 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Rob Lanier the most powerful man in college basketball this off season lmao. Sounds like Alabama head coach Nate Oats is the favorite for the Kentucky job.

I’m not sure why anyone would want the UK job. They will never match the expectations of the fan base in the current SEC. Too many good teams.

Oats was .500 in the SEC just two seasons ago. Wildcat Nation would have run him outta town.

So what you are saying is you can't believe anybody would want the Alabama football head coach job?

Bama is a top job with a fan base that didn't want their coach to leave. Somebody had to take the very coveted job. UK is a fan base that wanted their very good coach to leave and he's about to for another SEC job.

Very different scenario.
Basketball will always be far behind football at Alabama and the basketball coach at Alabama isn't a top job. How many national titles in basketball has UK won and how many has Alabama won. Calipari was pushed out.

He was definitely pushed out. Not a comforting thought for the next coach.
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(04-08-2024 09:36 AM)Bogg Wrote:  Yea, I don't think this is significantly more complicated than Cal deciding that he's too rich and too big of a name to spend the next couple years listening to drunk fans yell at him to resign. He'll be more appreciated at Arkansas and, for a few years at least, have almost entirely free reign to do what he wants.

I don't think Kentucky can just go out and get literally anyone they want, but you're talking about a very short list of coaches who probably say no after reworking their contracts and otherwise they'll have a killer interview list.

Always better to leave by choice than get fired. Cal is slimy but smart as hell, he knows he wasn't going to outrun the big money boosters chasing him. Coaches and agents are about to be getting bank either by taking the UK job or using it to get massive raises. I probably would just take the raises if I'm the top college guys like Drew, Oats, Hurley, etc. Chances you could live up to the UK booster expectations are zero. I think it ends up being either Billy D who takes the job or someone lower down the college hoops food chain than you'd expect.
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Imagine for a moment, if UK were to hire Mike Krzyzewski out of retirement. I think the internet might explode.
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(04-08-2024 09:50 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 09:38 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(04-08-2024 09:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Big 12 programs might need protect Kansas' Bill Self and Houston's Kelvin Sampson from Kentucky.

The P2 Mega-Millions (new SEC Media deal starts 2024-25) hits their account later this year, so SEC teams might go on a spending spree for coaches.

This assumes SEC schools are willing to spend the money on men's basketball coaches instead of spending even more money on head coaches in that other sport, not to mention coordinators and assistants. I'm sure there are SEC schools that care who their special teams coordinator (is that a job in college?) is than who their men's basketball coach is.
Kentucky is the SEC's only Basketball First school, and they get football money because of their unique association. They can outspend any basketball first school in the nation for a coach. And by themselves they are top 20 in revenue for all sports. North Carolina is not. Duke managed it last year but usually is not. Kansas is not.

On paper, the athletic department maybe. You're not taking into account donors etc
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(04-08-2024 09:54 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I probably would just take the raises if I'm the top college guys like Drew, Oats, Hurley, etc. Chances you could live up to the UK booster expectations are zero. I think it ends up being either Billy D who takes the job or someone lower down the college hoops food chain than you'd expect.

Eh, guys want to win titles. Can you win a title at Alabama? I mean, maybe, but it's more likely at Kentucky. Same goes for places like Illinois, Auburn, etc. They'll have plenty of options even considering that Kentucky basketball can be a circus.
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