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Final Four Stats (1985 to Present)
Bids by School
13 - Duke
12 - North Carolina
10 - Kansas
8 - Kentucky, Michigan St
7 - Connecticut
5 - Florida, Michigan, Syracuse, UCLA, Villanova
4 - Arizona, Louisville
3 - Arkansas, Indiana, Ohio St, Oklahoma, UNLV, Wisconsin
2 - Butler, Georgetown, Georgia Tech, Gonzaga, Illinois, LSU, Maryland, Memphis, Oklahoma St
1 - Alabama, Auburn, Baylor, Cincinnati, Florida Atlantic, George Mason, Houston, Loyola - Chicago, Marquette, Massachusetts, Miami (FL), Minnesota, Mississippi St, North Carolina St, Oregon, Providence, Purdue, San Diego St, Seton Hall, South Carolina, St. John's, Stanford, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, VCU, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita St

Major 6 Schools with 0 Final Four Bids by Future Conference Affiliation
> Major 6: ACC, B1G, Big East, PAC, SEC, XII
ACC (9/18) - Boston College, California, Clemson, Florida St, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, SMU, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
B1G (7/18) - Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn St, Rutgers, USC, Washington
Big East (3/11) - Creighton, DePaul, Xavier
PAC (2/2) - Oregon St, Washington St
SEC (6/16) - Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt
XII (7/16) - Arizona St, BYU, Central Florida, Colorado, Iowa St, Kansas St, TCU

Bids by Then-Current Conference
33 - ACC
26 - B1G
23 - Big East*
21 - SEC
12 - XII
11 - PAC
6 - Big 8
4 - CUSA
3 - Big West
2 - AAC*, CAA, Horizon, Metro, MVC, WCC
1 - A10, Great Midwest, MWC, SWC, WAC
* For this exercise, treating AAC as a separate entity and the new Big East as a continuation of the old Big East.

Bids by Future Conference
40 - ACC
34 - B1G
26 - SEC
22 - XII
20 - Big East
4 - AAC, MWC
3 - A10
2 - WCC
1 - MAC

Bids by Seed
62 - One
32 - Two
17 - Three
15 - Four
9 - Five
6 - Eight, Eleven
3 - Six, Seven
2 - Nine
1 - Ten
0 - Twelve, Thirteen, Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen
04-02-2024 11:35 AM
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RE: Final Four Stats (1985 to Present)
This is good information and thanks for collating it!

I would say that this information perhaps does not paint a full picture of conference/team strength. For instance, my TN Vols have not made a final four, but have been in the Elite Eight twice and have consistently been a top 10 program over the past several years. Kansas State has no final fours, but 4 Elite Eights since 85. Since this data is over 39 years, it probably does average out though.

The Big 12 did have a down year, but with stronger teams (Arizona) coming in it will also increase the old RPI/NET, etc. and they will wind up getting more overall bids.
04-03-2024 10:17 AM
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RE: Final Four Stats (1985 to Present)
(04-03-2024 10:17 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  This is good information and thanks for collating it!

I would say that this information perhaps does not paint a full picture of conference/team strength. For instance, my TN Vols have not made a final four, but have been in the Elite Eight twice and have consistently been a top 10 program over the past several years. Kansas State has no final fours, but 4 Elite Eights since 85. Since this data is over 39 years, it probably does average out though.

The Big 12 did have a down year, but with stronger teams (Arizona) coming in it will also increase the old RPI/NET, etc. and they will wind up getting more overall bids.

I did a similar post for the Sweet 16 and there are schools which have been consistently strong, like BYU and Temple, who don't appear on these shorter lists.
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RE: Final Four Stats (1985 to Present)
(04-02-2024 11:35 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Bids by School
13 - Duke
12 - North Carolina
10 - Kansas
8 - Kentucky, Michigan St
7 - Connecticut
5 - Florida, Michigan, Syracuse, UCLA, Villanova
4 - Arizona, Louisville
3 - Arkansas, Indiana, Ohio St, Oklahoma, UNLV, Wisconsin
2 - Butler, Georgetown, Georgia Tech, Gonzaga, Illinois, LSU, Maryland, Memphis, Oklahoma St
1 - Alabama, Auburn, Baylor, Cincinnati, Florida Atlantic, George Mason, Houston, Loyola - Chicago, Marquette, Massachusetts, Miami (FL), Minnesota, Mississippi St, North Carolina St, Oregon, Providence, Purdue, San Diego St, Seton Hall, South Carolina, St. John's, Stanford, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, VCU, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita St

Major 6 Schools with 0 Final Four Bids by Future Conference Affiliation
> Major 6: ACC, B1G, Big East, PAC, SEC, XII
ACC (9/18) - Boston College, California, Clemson, Florida St, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, SMU, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
B1G (7/18) - Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn St, Rutgers, USC, Washington
Big East (3/11) - Creighton, DePaul, Xavier
PAC (2/2) - Oregon St, Washington St
SEC (6/16) - Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt
XII (7/16) - Arizona St, BYU, Central Florida, Colorado, Iowa St, Kansas St, TCU

Bids by Then-Current Conference
33 - ACC
26 - B1G
23 - Big East*
21 - SEC
12 - XII
11 - PAC
6 - Big 8
4 - CUSA
3 - Big West
2 - AAC*, CAA, Horizon, Metro, MVC, WCC
1 - A10, Great Midwest, MWC, SWC, WAC
* For this exercise, treating AAC as a separate entity and the new Big East as a continuation of the old Big East.

Bids by Future Conference
40 - ACC
34 - B1G
26 - SEC
22 - XII
20 - Big East
4 - AAC, MWC
3 - A10
2 - WCC
1 - MAC

Bids by Seed
62 - One
32 - Two
17 - Three
15 - Four
9 - Five
6 - Eight, Eleven
3 - Six, Seven
2 - Nine
1 - Ten
0 - Twelve, Thirteen, Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen

Strong work. I enjoyed perusing.
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