(02-29-2024 10:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:19 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 09:57 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 08:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 07:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The Trump or bust tards are going to be the ones responsible for losing this election.

I'll be here to mercilessly remind them after I vote for him in a losing effort again.

If you know someone else who can get 75,000,000 votes I'm all ears.

Either of DeSantis or Tim Scott, and perhaps Vivek Ramaswamy, would have done that and more. Oct.-Jan. was the time to be using your ears.

Now is too late, and your ears are only good for hearing (if you choose not to plug them) rath's very justified "I told you so" when Trump flames out against the Biden replacement candidate.

My ears hear them all endorsing Trump now. So what's the problem butteryfly guy???

Trump logic at its finest. Country-first politicians are supporting a me-first moron, because it is the best option available. That makes it okay?

The World Trade Center facility and the Pentagon have now been repaired. So does that now meant that Ilhan Omar was right when she dismissed it as merely "some people did something"?

What kind of moron would you be to NOT take the best option available???

You know what? I'm going to start Andy Reid at TE in the super bowl because I think Travis Kelce is a drunken a$$hole.

GENIUS !!!

(02-29-2024 11:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  You've got me confused, which is not a difficult thing to do. But let me try to take this in pieces, and then you can go ahead and wet yourself all over again and rage about something else that I didn't say:

[quote='WKUYG' pid='19490189' dateline='1709223881']

--> Yes, Trump is capable, and perfectly willing, to sacrifice the interests of our country for his own. That doesn't make it right. And if Ron DeSantis, or any of the others, did the same, they likely would also prevent Donald from getting to the 75mm that seems to be the assumed threshold here for winning. That they are not shows that they are not me-first morons. That label only applies to Donald.

Eh. I disagree. Desantis (and the others) are doing what they think is best for their long term political career. To think they are making these decisions based on pure motives, is naive.

(02-29-2024 11:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:19 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 09:57 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 08:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If you know someone else who can get 75,000,000 votes I'm all ears.

Either of DeSantis or Tim Scott, and perhaps Vivek Ramaswamy, would have done that and more. Oct.-Jan. was the time to be using your ears.

Now is too late, and your ears are only good for hearing (if you choose not to plug them) rath's very justified "I told you so" when Trump flames out against the Biden replacement candidate.

My ears hear them all endorsing Trump now. So what's the problem butteryfly guy???

Trump logic at its finest. Country-first politicians are supporting a me-first moron, because it is the best option available. That makes it okay?

The World Trade Center facility and the Pentagon have now been repaired. So does that now meant that Ilhan Omar was right when she dismissed it as merely "some people did something"?

What kind of moron would you be to NOT take the best option available???

You know what? I'm going to start Andy Reid at TE in the super bowl because I think Travis Kelce is a drunken a$$hole.

GENIUS !!!

You'll have to pose that question to the M.O.B.:

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented), Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump declared. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

GENIUS !!!

(02-29-2024 11:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  You've got me confused, which is not a difficult thing to do. But let me try to take this in pieces, and then you can go ahead and wet yourself all over again and rage about something else that I didn't say:

(02-29-2024 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  That is your opinion but it still doesn't change what was said.....

they all are ME FIRST.

--> Agree, they are all me-first. But only Trump is the moron.
Is that not made clear in my posts?

Also lets say you are correct then it plays to your other statement. If Trump did not back the republican candidate how in the world do you make the statement....

either of the 3 you named would get 75 million votes or win? You don't see the problem if you are correct on what you said? No logic to your answer in that case.

--> Forgive me if I am reading too much into what you've just typed, WKUYG, but that sounds like terrorist-enabling logic. (Thus my reference to the Ilhan Omar statement in my response to oruvoice.)

--> Yes, Trump is capable, and perfectly willing, to sacrifice the interests of our country for his own. That doesn't make it right. And if Ron DeSantis, or any of the others, did the same, they likely would also prevent Donald from getting to the 75mm that seems to be the assumed threshold here for winning. That they are not shows that they are not me-first morons. That label only applies to Donald.

Lets break it down to simple facts

1. you named 3 people you believed would get 75 million votes

2. you think Trump would not back any of them


Where are the 75 million votes coming from since you clearly believe Trump has a large following that are only Pro Trump?

Not one of them are pulling in votes from While females and any meaning numbers over Trump. Small increase at best....if that

Black vote numbers Trump pulls those 3 are at best getting 3% to 5%
You can go down the line of "pro Trump" voters and only one of those has a chance to pull in a small% on their own.

Your logic is way off if you believe what you said that Trump would not back them

(02-29-2024 11:57 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets break it down to simple facts

1. you named 3 people you believed would get 75 million votes

2. you think Trump would not back any of them

--> Okay, since those two points are an accurate recitation of my opinions on the matter, I suppose it is fair to call them "facts" in your own summary of my views. Just a little odd.

Where are the 75 million votes coming from since you clearly believe Trump has a large following that are only Pro Trump?

--> From the same people who voted for Trump in 2020, plus those millions more who are now completely appalled by what the Biden administration has done to us. It's an opinion, but hardly a stretch.

--> UNLESS, Donald pulls the 3rd-party route. Does that mean you are now conceding that he in fact is the me-first moron I consider him to be?

Not one of them are pulling in votes from While females and any meaning numbers over Trump. Small increase at best....if that

--> Is this a fact? That seems to be a one-sided thing in your world WKUYG.

Black numbers Trump pulls those 3 are at best getting 3% to 5%
You can go down the line of "pro Trump" voters and only one of those has a chance to pull in a small% on their own.

--> Another WKUYG fact?

Your logic is way off if you believe what you said that Trump would not back them

--> Could be. I'm prepared to be proved wrong, and truly hope that I am in November. Unlike tanq., I'll still be here if that happens.

(02-29-2024 12:06 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:57 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets break it down to simple facts

1. you named 3 people you believed would get 75 million votes

2. you think Trump would not back any of them

--> Okay, since those two points are an accurate recitation of my opinions on the matter, I suppose it is fair to call them "facts" in your own summary of my views. Just a little odd.

Where are the 75 million votes coming from since you clearly believe Trump has a large following that are only Pro Trump?

--> From the same people who voted for Trump in 2020, plus those millions more who are now completely appalled by what the Biden administration has done to us. It's an opinion, but hardly a stretch.

--> UNLESS, Donald pulls the 3rd-party route. Does that mean you are now conceding that he in fact is the me-first moron I consider him to be?

Not one of them are pulling in votes from While females and any meaning numbers over Trump. Small increase at best....if that

--> Is this a fact? That seems to be a one-sided thing in your world WKUYG.

Black numbers Trump pulls those 3 are at best getting 3% to 5%
You can go down the line of "pro Trump" voters and only one of those has a chance to pull in a small% on their own.

--> Another WKUYG fact?

Your logic is way off if you believe what you said that Trump would not back them

--> Could be. I'm prepared to be proved wrong, and truly hope that I am in November. Unlike tanq., I'll still be here if that happens.

This is where I ask you to prove your opinion and what I called facts....

We seen the poll numbers of Trump and black voters and the lack of white female. So it's not just in "my mind"

Now instead of your opinion link me up with the 3 names you mention and how they were polling with the groups I mention?

But if I'm reading you correctly in your mind you think the voters are going to polls in record number to vote for any one of the 3 on your list. But the one person who actually brought out that record number and out gained all 3 combined by around 10 to 15%.....

they going to stay home.

And you believe the democrats are not going to cheat on mail in votes because Trump is not running? That's some make believe fairytale crap.

I'll wait for those links showing the support for those 3. Till I see the facts I said what I had to say because at this point your logic is not very logical

(02-29-2024 12:19 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  This is where I ask you to prove your opinion and what I called facts....

We seen the poll numbers of Trump and black voters and the lack of white female. So it's not just in "my mind"

Now instead of your opinion link me up with the 3 names you mention and how they were polling with the groups I mention?

--> I do not tout pre-election polls. I do not consider them facts. If I did, I would be spouting off about Nikki Haley showing a commanding preference over Donald Trump in head-to-head match ups against Joe Biden. I don't believe that. You can search my post history (you're good at that sort of weenie behavior). You will not find any posts in which I have touted polls as a reason to distrust Donald Trump.


But if I'm reading you correctly in your mind you think the voters are going to polls in record number to vote for any one of the 3 on your list. But the one person who actually brought out that record number and out gained all 3 combined by around 10 to 15%.....

--> I do think that. I believe that Democrats have so turned off the American populace that a normal Republican candidate will win in a landslide. It will take a particular brand of moron to lose this year. Gee, .....

they going to stay home.

--> Yet again, one of those WKUYG "facts".

And you believe the democrats are not going to cheat on mail in votes because Trump is not running? That's some make believe fairytale crap.

--> I am absolutely certain that they are going to cheat. Which is why I wish we had a Republican candidate with the self-discipline to stay on message, and not lose his marbles when someone makes a comment about his hand size.

I'll wait for those links showing the support for those 3. Till I see the facts I said what I had to say because at this point your logic is not very logical

--> If that is the only way to discuss Donald Trump - - via pre-election polls you approve of - - then you win WKUYG. I don't play that way.

--> I instead cite concerns, supported by actual quotes, that cause me to hold the opinions I am offering up for you to bellyache about.

--> You're welcome.

FFS you two need to get a room.

(02-29-2024 12:19 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  We seen the poll numbers of Trump and black voters and the lack of white female. So it's not just in "my mind"

Now instead of your opinion link me up with the 3 names you mention and how they were polling with the groups I mention?

But if I'm reading you correctly in your mind you think the voters are going to polls in record number to vote for any one of the 3 on your list. But the one person who actually brought out that record number and out gained all 3 combined by around 10 to 15%.....

they going to stay home.

The Republican's stance on abortion is going to always be a loser among women. There is no way around it. Owl#'s has brought it up many times, saying it is a position that needs to be moderated. Unfortunately the party as a whole refuses to do it. If they want to increase their women vote then that position has to be moderated.

Quote:And you believe the democrats are not going to cheat on mail in votes because Trump is not running? That's some make believe fairytale crap.

I'll wait for those links showing the support for those 3. Till I see the facts I said what I had to say because at this point your logic is not very logical

Clearly your viewpoint on cheating is not shared by the courts. Maybe the Republicans should just get off their ass and start registering people, and getting them to do mail in voting as well.

(02-29-2024 11:57 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:19 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 09:57 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Either of DeSantis or Tim Scott, and perhaps Vivek Ramaswamy, would have done that and more. Oct.-Jan. was the time to be using your ears.

Now is too late, and your ears are only good for hearing (if you choose not to plug them) rath's very justified "I told you so" when Trump flames out against the Biden replacement candidate.

My ears hear them all endorsing Trump now. So what's the problem butteryfly guy???

Trump logic at its finest. Country-first politicians are supporting a me-first moron, because it is the best option available. That makes it okay?

The World Trade Center facility and the Pentagon have now been repaired. So does that now meant that Ilhan Omar was right when she dismissed it as merely "some people did something"?

What kind of moron would you be to NOT take the best option available???

You know what? I'm going to start Andy Reid at TE in the super bowl because I think Travis Kelce is a drunken a$$hole.

GENIUS !!!

You'll have to pose that question to the M.O.B.:

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented), Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump declared. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

GENIUS !!!

So you would start Andy Reid over Travis Kelce. Got it.

(02-29-2024 10:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  The World Trade Center facility and the Pentagon have now been repaired. So does that now meant that Ilhan Omar was right when she dismissed it as merely "some people did something"?

I think I'm quoting the right poster.

Some people--specifically, a bunch if Islamic radicals--did something--specifically, destroy two major buildings and a significant portion of a third, and kill 3,000 people in the process. That is not easy to dismiss, but Omar is not honest enough to supply those details.

(02-29-2024 12:44 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:57 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:34 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 10:19 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  My ears hear them all endorsing Trump now. So what's the problem butteryfly guy???

Trump logic at its finest. Country-first politicians are supporting a me-first moron, because it is the best option available. That makes it okay?

The World Trade Center facility and the Pentagon have now been repaired. So does that now meant that Ilhan Omar was right when she dismissed it as merely "some people did something"?

What kind of moron would you be to NOT take the best option available???

You know what? I'm going to start Andy Reid at TE in the super bowl because I think Travis Kelce is a drunken a$$hole.

GENIUS !!!

You'll have to pose that question to the M.O.B.:

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented), Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump declared. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

GENIUS !!!

So you would start Andy Reid over Travis Kelce. Got it.

I'm not quoting myself there, BC. If it is Travis Kelce that you consider the "best option" as tight end, it is Coach "I've been wronged so eff you all" Trump you will need to discuss it with.

(02-29-2024 12:36 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 12:19 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  We seen the poll numbers of Trump and black voters and the lack of white female. So it's not just in "my mind"

Now instead of your opinion link me up with the 3 names you mention and how they were polling with the groups I mention?

But if I'm reading you correctly in your mind you think the voters are going to polls in record number to vote for any one of the 3 on your list. But the one person who actually brought out that record number and out gained all 3 combined by around 10 to 15%.....

they going to stay home.

The Republican's stance on abortion is going to always be a loser among women. There is no way around it. Owl#'s has brought it up many times, saying it is a position that needs to be moderated. Unfortunately the party as a whole refuses to do it. If they want to increase their women vote then that position has to be moderated.

Quote:And you believe the democrats are not going to cheat on mail in votes because Trump is not running? That's some make believe fairytale crap.

I'll wait for those links showing the support for those 3. Till I see the facts I said what I had to say because at this point your logic is not very logical

Clearly your viewpoint on cheating is not shared by the courts. Maybe the Republicans should just get off their ass and start registering people, and getting them to do mail in voting as well.

Clearly at least one state has ruled drop off boxes were illegal. I say cheating they say illegal both are the same. I dont believe a court has or can rule on "cheating" once the ballot is in the box. I do believe Ga. ruled 200k in ballots were illegal. I'm going on what was posted on here so I'm not saying that was 100%.

Maybe you can show me where a court has ruled there was no cheating since that is your requirement?

(02-29-2024 01:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Clearly at least one state has ruled drop off boxes were illegal. I say cheating they say illegal both are the same. I dont believe a court has or can rule on "cheating" once the ballot is in the box. I do believe Ga. ruled 200k in ballots were illegal. I'm going on what was posted on here so I'm not saying that was 100%.

Maybe you can show me where a court has ruled there was no cheating since that is your requirement?

Illegal because they aren't explicitly allowed in their state laws, right? They didn't say that there was cheating. Ironically they used them in 2016 as well and Trump didn't complain then. Either way not every state has the same laws.

I have not seen a court rule on the 200k ballots being illegal in Georgia. There were some handling issues from what I've read, but there are so many opinion pieces posted here versus actual rulings that I can't keep up anymore.

Maybe I should have said widespread cheating. I have yet to see a court outright say that there was widespread cheating in any city, county, or state in the 2020 election. Systematic issues possibly, but again, the opinion pieces versus the final rulings are hard to keep straight anymore.

Again, the Republicans have had 4 years to get their own "harvesting" operation in place. They haven't been deemed illegal from anything I've heard. I'm of the view point that helping anyone on either side that have hardships to get to the polls is a good thing. Some day I probably will be old and frail and will want some way to vote that doesn't necessarily require me to get to the polls and wait in line to vote.

(02-28-2024 09:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Biden is getting replaced in Chicago this summer.

Bet on it.

Doing it after the primary allows the party to pick who they want without the pesky voters getting in the way

Exactly! Been saying it for a while. mUh deMOcracY!!!!

(02-29-2024 02:34 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 09:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Biden is getting replaced in Chicago this summer.

Bet on it.

Doing it after the primary allows the party to pick who they want without the pesky voters getting in the way

Exactly! Been saying it for a while. mUh deMOcracY!!!!

I do agree. It seems like that is the end goal for the Democrats here.