(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 12:14 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 11:44 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 11:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Notice the lack of defense from the left in here.

"The left in here" are tired of downplaying your imagined fears

It’s not imagined it’s reality.

Laws and prosecutions carved out for a specific person is very dangerous

From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

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What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Khruschev lives in his own alternate reality world. The sky in that world is not blue. Probably red.

"Just Us" from the left is not justice at all. It is targeted political prosecution and persecution. Khruschev knows that or if he doesn't, he's dumber than we all thought and that is a really low bar.

(02-19-2024 01:23 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Khruschev lives in his own alternate reality world. The sky in that world is not blue. Probably red.

"Just Us" from the left is not justice at all. It is targeted political prosecution and persecution. Khruschev knows that or if he doesn't, he's dumber than we all thought and that is a really low bar.

What do you expect from the brainwashed.

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 12:14 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 11:44 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  "The left in here" are tired of downplaying your imagined fears

It’s not imagined it’s reality.

Laws and prosecutions carved out for a specific person is very dangerous

From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

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What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 12:14 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It’s not imagined it’s reality.

Laws and prosecutions carved out for a specific person is very dangerous

From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

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What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

This NY case is a civil (not criminal, civil) case, brought by a party that is not-party to the contract in question.
No NY laws were broken or this would be a criminal case. It's not.

How was NY State harmed in that contract, that they were not a civil party to, to have standing to sue on a civil basis?
DeutcheBank? Sure? But they didn't sue. They got paid.
NY State? How.

(02-19-2024 10:45 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Delaware has just learned a lesson the hard way at the same time this was going down. Delaware failed to approve Musks pay package for Tesla. Musk then moves Spacex and Neuralink companies from Delaware to Texas, and has scheduled a shareholders vote for Tesla to do the same.

Keep being stupid, blue states.

Texas or deep Red States are the only place I’d set my headquarters up in

I’m hearing from big boy insiders that companies have looking to get out of Cali & NY Penn mainly Philly but from some time. This just helps get them to moving more quickly

(02-19-2024 01:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

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What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

Sent from my SM-F946U using Tapatalk

Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

Oh so you’re relying on ‘feelings over facts’ and rational discussion. There’s no use having a discussion when one doesn’t want a discussion

(02-19-2024 02:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

Oh so you’re relying on ‘feelings over facts’ and rational discussion. There’s no use having a discussion when one doesn’t want a discussion

Lol "rational"

BUSINESSES!! DO NOT FEAR !!! THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO YOU !!! WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS TO TRUMP !!! IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE RAILROADING HIM !!!

(02-19-2024 10:42 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  The New York governor has told business owners in her state that there is “nothing to worry about” after Donald Trump was fined $355m and temporarily banned from engaging in commerce in the state when he lost his civil fraud trial Friday.

In an interview on the New York radio show the Cats Roundtable with the supermarket billionaire John Catsimatidis, Kathy Hochul sought to quell fears in some quarters that the penalties handed to Trump for engaging in fraudulent business practices could chill the state’s commercial climate.

Asked if businesspeople should be worried that if prosecutors could “do that to the former president, they can do that to anybody”, Hochul said: “Law-abiding and rule-following New Yorkers who are businesspeople have nothing to worry about because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior.”

She added that the fraud case against Trump resulted from “really an extraordinary, unusual circumstance”.

Hochul’s comments were directed at some New York business leaders who said they were concerned that the attorney general Letitia James’s case against Trump could deter businesses and investment from coming to the state. Hochul noted James’s case demonstrated how Trump and some allies obtained favorable bank loans and insurance rates with inflated real estate values.

The governor said most New York business owners were “honest people, and they’re not trying to hide their assets and they’re following the rules”.

Hochul said most business owners would not merit state intervention.

“This judge determined that Donald Trump did not follow the rules,” Hochul added. “He was prosecuted and truly, the governor of the state of New York does not have a say in the size of a fine, and we want to make sure that we don’t have that level of interference.”

That is the face of evil.

(02-19-2024 11:44 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 11:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Notice the lack of defense from the left in here.

"The left in here" are tired of downplaying your imagined fears

Really, I'd have thought you'd be more tired from sucking your dear leaders ball sack. Such a despicable person...

(02-19-2024 01:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

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What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

Sent from my SM-F946U using Tapatalk

Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

Anyone with a brain that hasn't been conditioned shares that opinion. Even many on the left think it's BS. Keep on with your hardcore progressive crap, it's going to bite you on your ass, hard. And I'll laugh, hard, for a long time, every time I think of it.

Fuqn morons.

(02-19-2024 02:32 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 02:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

Oh so you’re relying on ‘feelings over facts’ and rational discussion. There’s no use having a discussion when one doesn’t want a discussion

Lol "rational"

Your response is understandable, we can see how rationality and reason confuse you.

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 12:14 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 11:44 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  "The left in here" are tired of downplaying your imagined fears

It’s not imagined it’s reality.

Laws and prosecutions carved out for a specific person is very dangerous

From "the Left's" perspective, Donald Trump saw justice for actions he committed. Under that perspective, it looks like the right wants to withhold justice because they believe Donald Trump is above the law, which is far more worrying than pretending that this decision will have any impact on business dealings in NYS

Sent from my SM-F946U using Tapatalk

What justice? No one involved complained that injustice was being conducted other than the AG who openly said she was targeting him. Therefore it’s not pretending that other business people should worry

If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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The fact is that the banks and the insurance companies came to a different conclusion than this kangaroo court did is the real indication of abuse of the legal system. In most sane minds a banks evaluation of worth is far more than a smiley naked ‘judge’ and a political hack prosecutor. But in your world, smiley naked judge Engeron knows more about real estate than Trump. And that only proves your ignorance.

When Trump is elected again, he should tell New York, you’re on your own for the next four years. Don’t call me. I’ll call you.

Party A wants a loan to build more property .

Party A tell the bank ‘this is our value on this current property’

The bank says ‘ No, our investigators say this the real value’

They negotiate and then settle on a deal for loan

Party A pays back the bank loan with interest and on time.

Everyone is satisfied

[insert Leticia James and wacko judge] There was fraud going on and we are the victims and you must pay exorbitant damages and be stripped of doing businesses here

[insert message board progressives and liberals everywhere rejoicing] Justice was served Justice was served. We have him now!!!!!

(02-19-2024 02:32 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 02:15 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:40 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-19-2024 01:21 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If other businesses arbitrarily, fraudulently value their assets, like Trump was proven to have done, then they should be worried.

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Then doesn’t this implicate all other parties involved as being involved in the alleged fraud. If the bankers, lawyers and accountants all signed off on it, how are they not all liable in the fraud too since the State is the one claiming they the State are the victims?

The State is only going after one person in the ‘fraud’ and again the one the State said they were targeting before a case was drawn up

You're free to have that opinion, no matter how much it flies in the face of reality. Just don't be surprised that no one shares it, nor should you expect that "the left" should rush to the defense of your opinion, as was my original point

Oh so you’re relying on ‘feelings over facts’ and rational discussion. There’s no use having a discussion when one doesn’t want a discussion

Lol "rational"

if there was one ounce of rational thought going through your brain and you actually believed the state of New York was justified in its judgment against Trump you would wonder why would the Governor have to say anything.

Must be nice to live in the total bliss of unawareness.

Just need to brush up on what propaganda to spew next. Sounding boards and echo chambers are not a good look. I can read any of your responses in any liberal think tank articles.