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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 03:57 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote: Seton Hall is ahead of us currently on the bubble.. Villanova more safely in the field. SH losing at home to Villanova will help us.
Seton Hall and Villanova are at the same place on the bubble. 3 out of 4 have them in. Both are ahead of us. So it probably doesn't matter who wins - we just need them to win big to knock the other one back.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 04:37 PM)Fluke Wrote: Don’t need FAU to lose except to us. We would have the tiebreaker
To be safe, we do need them to lose to No Texas. There's a scenario where UAB can leapfrog us if they win out.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The NET is not the only factor. If it was, we wouldn't be mentioned and SMU would. Instead SMU is not on anyone's radar and we are.
We and USF are both on the bubble for an At Large. Can't make a definitive statement right now about FAU getting the only bid. If you're predicting, that's fine. Still a lot to be determined with so many on the bubble.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 06:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-06-2024 04:37 PM)Fluke Wrote: Don’t need FAU to lose except to us. We would have the tiebreaker
To be safe, we do need them to lose to No Texas. There's a scenario where UAB can leapfrog us if they win out.
I was wrong anyways they only have 4 losses and I thought they had 5.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
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RE: Bubble watch
(02-14-2024 08:56 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (02-14-2024 01:50 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Here is why in just four words
HOME LOSS TO RICE.
The one to USF wasn’t good either. You just can’t lose at home in AAC
We lost AT HOME to a Rice team with a losing record. Much worse than USF in my book
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 09:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
Of course you would come back with some nonsense while YOU leave out the important parts since you decided it needed to be expounded on, let’s expound.
1. They were absolutely not expected to make it. Very few had them in the tournament they had a 70 NET while we had a 35 NET.
2. Why are you posting win % like that means something? That’s one of the dumbest things you could use to try and justify your point due to different schedules. ESPECIALLY that year which leads to..
3. You conveniently leave out what happened with the schedule that year with Wichita and Houston not playing their games with us. Wichita won that year at 11-2 while Memphis was 11-4. That’s 13 games vs 15 in case you have trouble with the math. They were 14-6 that year while we were 20-8 overall. We had already destroyed them by 20 once that year. So yes when you get to not play the tougher teams on the schedule and pick up some wins vs the slop you can have a higher win %.
How’s that for…. THE REST OF THE STORY. Get outta here with that weak ish
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 09:41 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 09:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
Of course you would come back with some nonsense while YOU leave out the important parts since you decided it needed to be expounded on, let’s expound.
1. They were absolutely not expected to make it. Very few had them in the tournament they had a 70 NET while we had a 35 NET.
2. Why are you posting win % like that means something? That’s one of the dumbest things you could use to try and justify your point due to different schedules. ESPECIALLY that year which leads to..
3. You conveniently leave out what happened with the schedule that year with Wichita and Houston not playing their games with us. Wichita won that year at 11-2 while Memphis was 11-4. That’s 13 games vs 15 in case you have trouble with the math. They were 14-6 that year while we were 20-8 overall. We had already destroyed them by 20 once that year. So yes when you get to not play the tougher teams on the schedule and pick up some wins vs the slop you can have a higher win %.
How’s that for…. THE REST OF THE STORY. Get outta here with that weak ish
None of your drivel changes the fact that they won the regular season title.
If there is anyone you compare them to this season it would be USF, not the Tigers.
If neither win the AAC tournament this year and both lose in semi-finals, USF would get the nod this year over the Tigers.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-06-2024 09:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
lol
After posting for weeks like the NET is the only factor considered for NCAA at large, you now do a 180, and ignore that Memphis NET that year was in the 50's and WSU's was in the 70's.
Funny how someone with such espoused "strong convictions" can flip his narrative so quickly.
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RE: Bubble watch
The Tigers are currently #70 in the NET.
For those who think the NET is too far gone for the Tigers...
The NET has been used for the last 4 tournaments played. Every year there has been at least one team selected for an At Large with a NET on Selection Sunday of 67 or worse:
2023 - Pitt #67
2022 - Rutgers #77
2021 - Wichita St #72 and Michigan St #70
2019 - St Johns #73
The Tigers have to beat FAU. If they do, the NET improves into the mid-60's. Not a slam dunk, but certainly in play.
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RE: Bubble watch
I think if we beat FAU by double digits, it could go to 65... but obviously the more games we play the lower each games impact. We are at about 3% per game now.
Im hoping we play SMU in the quarterfinals and get USF in the semis. That would give us the best Quad opportunities prior to the finals and winning all 3 of those could lead to a NET right at 60
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 10:35 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-06-2024 09:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
lol
After posting for weeks like the NET is the only factor considered for NCAA at large, you now do a 180, and ignore that Memphis NET that year was in the 50's and WSU's was in the 70's.
Funny how someone with such espoused "strong convictions" can flip his narrative so quickly.
It’s even worse. We were 35th in NET. Dudes an absolute joke.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 10:35 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-06-2024 09:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-06-2024 06:28 PM)Fluke Wrote: (03-06-2024 05:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: Right now FAU is the only team in line for an at large.
We're 72nd in the NET and USF js 75th.
The lowest ever for at large was 77th by SH, and they had 6 Q1 wins and had much harder SOS.
The "Penny" name could be a positive in the committee, but just not enough.
SMU is much higher in the NET at 50, but doesn't have a Q1 win and is 2-3 in Q2.
If FAU wins the tournament, the AAC is a 1 bid conference.
The year that Wichita St got in over us they were 70 in NET. Typically when they sneak some team in that people didn’t expect they point to the noncon.
What I bet happens is they just stick both teams in from the champ game if it’s from the FAU,USF,Memphis group whether they really deserve it or not. Especially if we win this next game vs FAU. We already know they won’t wait around to see who wins and then they don’t have to make any extra brackets.
Hello America this is Paul Harvey.
You heard what the news is.
In a moment you're going to hear, THE REST OF THE STORY.
And now, the rest of the story.
Seems someone omitted one small detail.
20-21 Wichita St WON the regular season title and was #1 seed in AAC tournament.
Tigers were 3rd.
Lost to UC by 1 in semi.
Conference winning percentage
WSU .846
Tigers .733
Overall winning percentage
WSU .727
Tigers .714
So WSU was not sneaked in, nor were they unexpected.
lol
After posting for weeks like the NET is the only factor considered for NCAA at large, you now do a 180, and ignore that Memphis NET that year was in the 50's and WSU's was in the 70's.
Funny how someone with such espoused "strong convictions" can flip his narrative so quickly.
AGAIN you're trying to compare a regular season champion with a 4th place team.
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RE: Bubble watch
I want to go to the NCAA as much as everyone....... but we have two chances:
1- Win the AAC Tournament championship in Ft Worth
2- The NCAA changes their criteria to do us a solid and invite us as an at large......
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RE: Bubble watch
It’s not gonna matter. The team is going to win the tournament. Book that ****.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 03:39 PM)bluecrew Wrote: It’s not gonna matter. The team is going to win the tournament. Book that ****.
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 03:07 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: I want to go to the NCAA as much as everyone....... but we have two chances:
1- Win the AAC Tournament championship in Ft Worth
2- The NCAA changes their criteria to do us a solid and invite us as an at large......
What do you mean by #2?
If you mean the NCAA never does Memphis any favors in bids or seeding, then I'm with you.
If you mean the NCAA has actual criteria which currently prohibits Memphis from getting an At Large, then no.
IF we beat FAU and win a 1st round AAC tourney game, we will have a resume that COULD be granted an At Large. No exceptions or criteria change needed.
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RE: Bubble watch
Lunardi just told Pastner on ESPN “I think Memphis is going to win the American tournament”
So it has been written, so it shall be done
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Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 09:08 PM)RCM1029 Wrote: Lunardi just told Pastner on ESPN “I think Memphis is going to win the American tournament”
So it has been written, so it shall be done
Did Pastner tell him winning is hard, but Penny is a future hall of fame coach? Did he mention his global championship???
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RE: Bubble watch
(03-07-2024 09:26 PM)aardWolf Wrote: (03-07-2024 09:08 PM)RCM1029 Wrote: Lunardi just told Pastner on ESPN “I think Memphis is going to win the American tournament”
So it has been written, so it shall be done
Did Pastner tell him winning is hard, but Penny is a future hall of fame coach? Did he mention his global championship???
Don’t think so. It was unprompted…which may have been uncomfortable for Josh.
BTW, Pastner is in his element on ESPN…he’s great
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