I mean, we don't need Martin to tell us this. He has been wrong about the Memphis fb and bb programs more than he's been right the past couple of years.
But the team has quit. JQ has issues. Not sure if it's past mental health stuff showing back up, or what. Perfect example closing out the 1H. We get the ball with 20 seconds left in the half - shot clock off. JQ dribbles for a bit and then jacks up a missed 3. With 10 seconds left on the clock! Obviously Rice gets the rebound goes down for the REAL final shot, and then gets fouled. Hit the FT's and tack on another 2 points on us. One of the single most stoopid plays I've ever seen in college bb.
This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2. Penny hasn't forgotten how to coach. But he seems to have quit too. Thing is, he doesn't get that luxury. We're here now, coach. So make a run at getting us out of it.
(02-01-2024 07:35 AM)micman Wrote: Isn't there another thread devoted to this with the majority conclusion that Jayden and Ashton are the problem?
Ashton and Jayden are a symptom. They would never play if their daddy wasn't coach. All of our issues stem from Penny's lack of leadership and they are a part of it.
(01-31-2024 10:34 PM)RCM1029 Wrote: Has nothing to do with Tomlin and Brown.
Has everything to do with Jones and Quinnerly thinking this is an nba tryout and believing they are bigger than the team.
But that’s the program Penny has sold them.
Quinnerly is crafty with ball but is too slow and cant for the life of him keep a guy in front of him... He'd be eaten alive in NBA. JMHO
That is part of it. But I also think his confidence is completely shot offensively. And, unfortunately, his defensive reaction speed is affected by how he's playing offensively. He is slow, but an unconfident player is a player that makes decisions just a split second slower.
In our 6 losses, he is 7-30 from 3. It's not a coincidence that those are also his worst games by defensive metrics as well.
(02-01-2024 10:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2.
I will push back gently on this...I think they are a very similar team to the one that was 15-2. Those close wins against Tulsa, SMU, UTSA, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and VCU could've very easily been close losses. They are a few missed shots, or made shots by opponents, from having as many as 11 losses right now.
(02-01-2024 10:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2.
I will push back gently on this...I think they are a very similar team to the one that was 15-2. Those close wins against Tulsa, SMU, UTSA, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and VCU could've very easily been close losses. They are a few missed shots, or made shots by opponents, from having as many as 11 losses right now.
And while I think this team was playing with fire the whole time with the all of the close games, I still think they’d be 19-2 if Mills doesn’t go down. Moot point, but I truly believe that.
(02-01-2024 11:10 AM)Unionman76 Wrote: jayden was hurt, did not play last night
Even with him not playing we played 11 players in the first half. That is absurd
Halfway through the first half, we had played more players (11) than we had points scored or actual game time. Jayden was not even available this game, that is playing almost the entire team, this is not freaking boys club ball where everyone has to get minutes!
(02-01-2024 10:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2.
I will push back gently on this...I think they are a very similar team to the one that was 15-2. Those close wins against Tulsa, SMU, UTSA, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and VCU could've very easily been close losses. They are a few missed shots, or made shots by opponents, from having as many as 11 losses right now.
And while I think this team was playing with fire the whole time with the all of the close games, I still think they’d be 19-2 if Mills doesn’t go down. Moot point, but I truly believe that.
Mills played 27 min against Villanova, the game where we probably played the worst half of basketball I've ever seen in the 4 decades I've been watching. I don't think this has much to do with him. Sure, he probably helped us get lucky for a few weeks, but luck always runs out eventually.
(02-01-2024 10:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2.
I will push back gently on this...I think they are a very similar team to the one that was 15-2. Those close wins against Tulsa, SMU, UTSA, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and VCU could've very easily been close losses. They are a few missed shots, or made shots by opponents, from having as many as 11 losses right now.
And while I think this team was playing with fire the whole time with the all of the close games, I still think they’d be 19-2 if Mills doesn’t go down. Moot point, but I truly believe that.
Mills played 27 min against Villanova, the game where we probably played the worst half of basketball I've ever seen in the 4 decades I've been watching. I don't think this has much to do with him. Sure, he probably helped us get lucky for a few weeks, but luck always runs out eventually.
We barely lost 3 of the games. He is much better than the guards that are playing instead of him. CM defended and was solid on the ball. His impact could easily swing a game 5-10 points in our direction. That matters when you consider we lost those games by 1, 2 and 3 points respectively.
(02-01-2024 10:09 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: This is nowhere close to the same team it was when we were 15-2.
I will push back gently on this...I think they are a very similar team to the one that was 15-2. Those close wins against Tulsa, SMU, UTSA, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and VCU could've very easily been close losses. They are a few missed shots, or made shots by opponents, from having as many as 11 losses right now.
And while I think this team was playing with fire the whole time with the all of the close games, I still think they’d be 19-2 if Mills doesn’t go down. Moot point, but I truly believe that.
Mills played 27 min against Villanova, the game where we probably played the worst half of basketball I've ever seen in the 4 decades I've been watching. I don't think this has much to do with him. Sure, he probably helped us get lucky for a few weeks, but luck always runs out eventually.
We barely lost 3 of the games. He is much better than the guards that are playing instead of him. CM defended and was solid on the ball. His impact could easily swing a game 5-10 points in our direction. That matters when you consider we lost those games by 1, 2 and 3 points respectively.
We cannot get stops. Mills could get stops consistently...
I listened to Gabe Kuhn today on the ride home in the car. Dude spelled it out about the broke Tiger team. Called them out top to bottom. If you are interested, it was a good listen.
(02-01-2024 09:57 PM)RCM1029 Wrote: Decourcey still has us as a 9 seed but i think that was before the Rice loss. Will be interesting to see where he has us tomorrow.
Lunardi and Palm will update today. Very much doubt we are in Lunardi's as we were in the First Four Byes before the Rice loss. Might still be in Palms but I doubt it.
(02-01-2024 09:45 PM)mapdude Wrote: I listened to Gabe Kuhn today on the ride home in the car. Dude spelled it out about the broke Tiger team. Called them out top to bottom. If you are interested, it was a good listen.
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There is something going on....
