(01-31-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:06 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Be nice if the vegetable in chief spent a fraction of the effort securing our border as he is trying to secure Ukraine's.

It’s as simple as this. OP is too dumb to understand this.


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Right? I mean, these dudes think they are brilliant. The mental disconnect between their self-perception and reality is something to behold.

They're like the special ed kid that they let score a basket and then starts flexing and celebrating themselves.

LOL, right!

(01-31-2024 11:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:20 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:18 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:06 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Be nice if the vegetable in chief spent a fraction of the effort securing our border as he is trying to secure Ukraine's.

It’s as simple as this. OP is too dumb to understand this.


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Right? I mean, these dudes think they are brilliant. The mental disconnect between their self-perception and reality is something to behold.

They're like the special ed kid that they let score a basket and then starts flexing and celebrating themselves.

It’s just obvious trolling at this point. You gain nothing by engaging with him.

The left didn’t care about the border until sanctuary cities started dealing with the Biden border failure. Now it’s an issue and there’s public pressure on both sides of the political aisle. It’s also exposed those in Congress that all of a sudden have to get a bill pushed through when they knew this was happening for years.


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Conservatives have been bitching about immigration since the scapegoats were Catholics and Irish. Funny how the problem never gets solved when conservatives are in power, and is always a monumental crisis when they aren't.

BS, cite your sources or admit you're just lying. We ALL know who the true racists are.

(01-31-2024 12:17 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:56 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:50 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:40 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:20 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  It’s just obvious trolling at this point. You gain nothing by engaging with him.

The left didn’t care about the border until sanctuary cities started dealing with the Biden border failure. Now it’s an issue and there’s public pressure on both sides of the political aisle. It’s also exposed those in Congress that all of a sudden have to get a bill pushed through when they knew this was happening for years.


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Conservatives have been bitching about immigration since the scapegoats were Catholics and Irish. Funny how the problem never gets solved when conservatives are in power, and is always a monumental crisis when they aren't.

Trump put the remain in Mexico policy in place and crossings went down, Biden comes in and removes Trump's policies and the numbers shot up but don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.

I'm sure you'd go out and find some other technicality to shift blame onto this President, and not the previous 4 Republican presidents that had the chance to do anything at all but didn't.

Once again you are wrong.

https://www.boundless.com/blog/reagan/

And if you actually take the time to look at the numbers and how they have increased during Biden't term you may understand the concern a little better.

Why would you advise that moron to do anything on his own involving independent and critical thought? He.Doesn't.Care. He's just a parrot, parroting talking points as they are handed out.

It would be nice if president idiot would arm our military. Biden = America Last

(02-02-2024 09:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  It would be nice if president idiot would arm our military. Biden = America Last

Seems to be a trend.

The amount of time, money, and focus this country puts on anything BUT the American people is criminal. It’s always a new scheme to cook something up somewhere else in the world.

We have created such a monster that we will never regain control of it. And it’s only focus is scamming and scheming for money, and finding more ways to keep the people distracted so we don’t put on end to it.

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 08:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Not bothered one bit by the fact that this mad fuqr is hellbent on starting WWIII huh? Oh, and in the process our middle class is being destroyed. You're OK with that too I guess.

Putin? If he was actually hell bent on starting WWIII he'd have already done it. I now get to hear near uniform calls for attacking Iran because "Iranian funded groups" attacked us and killed 3 solders. Horrible tragedy, but by that logic Putin has had complete justification to attack the US directly over our nearly complete funding, operational support, and arming of Ukraine and them using our weapons to attack into undisputed Russian Territory. Yet he hasn't done that, because he's not the completely mad fuqr hellbent on starting WWIII.

We already know you and yours would do nothing if 302,000 Russians showed up on the shores of Alaska seeking "Asylum" next month, and according to this Administration the Governor of Alaska couldn't do anything about it either.

It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

(02-02-2024 09:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  It would be nice if president idiot would arm our military. Biden = America Last

How much larger would the pentagon budget need to be before our military was sufficiently armed? 1 trillion a year budget? 2 trillion?

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

As a Bernie Bro, your opinion is supposed to be whatever you're told it is.

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 08:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Not bothered one bit by the fact that this mad fuqr is hellbent on starting WWIII huh? Oh, and in the process our middle class is being destroyed. You're OK with that too I guess.

Putin? If he was actually hell bent on starting WWIII he'd have already done it. I now get to hear near uniform calls for attacking Iran because "Iranian funded groups" attacked us and killed 3 solders. Horrible tragedy, but by that logic Putin has had complete justification to attack the US directly over our nearly complete funding, operational support, and arming of Ukraine and them using our weapons to attack into undisputed Russian Territory. Yet he hasn't done that, because he's not the completely mad fuqr hellbent on starting WWIII.

We already know you and yours would do nothing if 302,000 Russians showed up on the shores of Alaska seeking "Asylum" next month, and according to this Administration the Governor of Alaska couldn't do anything about it either.

It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

How many red pills have you had lately?


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I am not aware of any pro-Russia republicans. I am aware of pro-China democrats, and I firmly believe that China is a greater threat to the USA today than Russia is.

(02-02-2024 09:58 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 08:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Not bothered one bit by the fact that this mad fuqr is hellbent on starting WWIII huh? Oh, and in the process our middle class is being destroyed. You're OK with that too I guess.

Putin? If he was actually hell bent on starting WWIII he'd have already done it. I now get to hear near uniform calls for attacking Iran because "Iranian funded groups" attacked us and killed 3 solders. Horrible tragedy, but by that logic Putin has had complete justification to attack the US directly over our nearly complete funding, operational support, and arming of Ukraine and them using our weapons to attack into undisputed Russian Territory. Yet he hasn't done that, because he's not the completely mad fuqr hellbent on starting WWIII.

We already know you and yours would do nothing if 302,000 Russians showed up on the shores of Alaska seeking "Asylum" next month, and according to this Administration the Governor of Alaska couldn't do anything about it either.

It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

How many red pills have you had lately?


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Zero, but if the right would like to tone down on the dog whistling just slightly and advocate for a Bismarck Healthcare system I would listen. The poster here Owl 69/70/75 has many times laid out a version of the GOP I'd pretty enthusiastically support, of course it's a fantasy version, but still he's laid it out.

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out.

(02-02-2024 09:57 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 09:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  It would be nice if president idiot would arm our military. Biden = America Last

How much larger would the pentagon budget need to be before our military was sufficiently armed? 1 trillion a year budget? 2 trillion?

No amount will ver be enough because they will find a waylay to waste it regardless.

The pentagon has never passed an audit. And it likely never will pass a real one because it has no grasp or control over the fraud and corruption. And because it’s “national security” related, everyone is afraid to question it too much because it might show they are “weak in national security” and going to lead us into the “next 9/11” etc.

They have brainwashed the entire country into not really being allowed to question anything about them, their budge, or their activities without being labeled a traitor, a supporter of terrorism, a risk to the country or some other bs labels that are meant to scare everyone into shutting up and letting it go.

(02-02-2024 10:08 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out.

If I was to do what they did to a NYC cop, I would be in Rykers Island awaiting my trial right now.

But not an invasion.

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 08:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Not bothered one bit by the fact that this mad fuqr is hellbent on starting WWIII huh? Oh, and in the process our middle class is being destroyed. You're OK with that too I guess.

Putin? If he was actually hell bent on starting WWIII he'd have already done it. I now get to hear near uniform calls for attacking Iran because "Iranian funded groups" attacked us and killed 3 solders. Horrible tragedy, but by that logic Putin has had complete justification to attack the US directly over our nearly complete funding, operational support, and arming of Ukraine and them using our weapons to attack into undisputed Russian Territory. Yet he hasn't done that, because he's not the completely mad fuqr hellbent on starting WWIII.

We already know you and yours would do nothing if 302,000 Russians showed up on the shores of Alaska seeking "Asylum" next month, and according to this Administration the Governor of Alaska couldn't do anything about it either.

It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

And therein lies the crux of the two faced Hypocrites. Illegals can come unabated but businesses shouldn’t hire them.

Pray tell how will they survive? Government assistance forever?

I’m not advocating hiring illegals but the grossly ignorant Democrats don’t think about this if they believe a vote is involved

(02-02-2024 10:06 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 09:58 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 09:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 09:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Putin? If he was actually hell bent on starting WWIII he'd have already done it. I now get to hear near uniform calls for attacking Iran because "Iranian funded groups" attacked us and killed 3 solders. Horrible tragedy, but by that logic Putin has had complete justification to attack the US directly over our nearly complete funding, operational support, and arming of Ukraine and them using our weapons to attack into undisputed Russian Territory. Yet he hasn't done that, because he's not the completely mad fuqr hellbent on starting WWIII.

We already know you and yours would do nothing if 302,000 Russians showed up on the shores of Alaska seeking "Asylum" next month, and according to this Administration the Governor of Alaska couldn't do anything about it either.

It's always so funny what this board thinks my opinion on the border is, because it's hilariously wrong. I don't favor an open border at all, I completely favor the implementation of a points based/merit based immigration system vs the absolute nonsense we have right now. I'm personally completely open to the idea of ending birthright citizenship. I am in favor of extremely harsh punishments on any businesses who knowingly or intentionally trying to not know hiring illegal immigrants. I'd be perfectly fine with having clearer and more restrictive asylum rules, and having the applicants either remain in Mexico or be detained while going through the asylum process, assuming of course we increase the number of judges handling these claims so they aren't stuck in that situation for years. Policy wise I'm probably closer to the GOP positions on most of these issues, until the dog whistling about how the brown people are "invading" and "taking our country" starts and the complete disregard for the lives of those people and then I'm out. IMO you should be able to be in favor of having an extremely secure border, merit based immigration, and wanting to keep people out without treating those people as sub human and evil for the majority of them just wanting to better their own lives.

How many red pills have you had lately?


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Zero, but if the right would like to tone down on the dog whistling just slightly and advocate for a Bismarck Healthcare system I would listen. The poster here Owl 69/70/75 has many times laid out a version of the GOP I'd pretty enthusiastically support, of course it's a fantasy version, but still he's laid it out.

Why exactly do you think it’s a dog whistle?

I think people are fed up with government representatives ignoring the issue, so the right is much more vocal than they have been. The left isn’t used to the right speaking up on these cultural issues until Trump came along and told the left to F off.

Conservatives just want a secure border and a reasonable merit based approach to immigration. They’ve been ignored by both parties for decades, so the fangs are out. It’s time to do something.


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