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Will we win another game in the MAC?


Obviously we are lacking coaching and player leadership.

Did McGriff and Kevin Rice leave the team?


Tymoni Bates Acuff will keep being inefficient on offense unless another guard can step up and stretch the floor. Right now we only have Tymoni scoring from outside but he has to revert to 1 on 5 because he has no help. Lovejoy is a poor mans Lorenzo Neely. He can score in the paint and that’s it.


Can we get to 5 MAC wins?
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(01-16-2024 09:04 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Not gonna get all sour about it but it is just not going to happen for Eastern this season. Very simply, it is not a good team.

Welcome back, BobW! We missed you for a while.

Otherwise, I agree. There is just too many missed bunnies and unforced turnovers. And as KenBarna suggests, we don’t have consistency- in the frontcourt or with outside shooting. The players have some definite skills, look really good on many occasions, and put in a lot of effort. But nothing comes “easy” for these guys, so it is near impossible for them to keep things together for a full 40 minutes.

But they have already matched last years win total. And I do see definite progress in the frontcourt even if it is of an ebb and flow nature. And the hustle/drive is still there. So I will keep watching, and hope for the best.
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(01-16-2024 08:56 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  This team is just not prepared to play...again.

And that is the other part of it. Coaching staff has done a much better job this year of actually coaching rather then treating them as a g-league level team. But when I suggest nothing comes “easy” to this team, the coaching staff still needs to do more to make some things “easy” for the players. Design and designate some plays for the frontcourt, swing the ball around more, etc. Some is on the players, some is on the coach.
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TyCuff has been nothing short of amazing this year. But his season 3 point shooting is 27.5%. While he is shooting great on drives and just inside the arc, that is only 2/3 of the points.

Yusuf Jihad needs to be playing at least 25 minutes every single game. He is clearly the best outside shooter on the team.
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Stan said in the post-game interview that we just are not shooting the ball well from outside and teams are packing the lane as a result. I agree.

Then he starts Acuff with 3 ball marksmen like Martynov, Billingsley, Ellerbe and Lovejoy. We only have three guys with a true 3-ball stroke and two of them were sitting on the bench. Heath also confuses me with his substitution and deployment in the frontcourt. In and out constantly with Billingsley, Geeter, Ellerbe, Martynov, Serven, Jihad, Osojnik and today even Randle. It is a "flavor of the week" as to who starts and plays that I simply do not understand.

One thing has become clear to me. Martynov is not ready for prime time. He has all the weaknesses of a typical seven-footer, poor agility, lack of speed and no ball skills. The problem is that he none of the advantages either. He is not a strong rebounder and small guards repeatedly lay up the ball against him at the rim.
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(01-16-2024 10:00 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  TyCuff has been nothing short of amazing this year. But his season 3 point shooting is 27.5%. While he is shooting great on drives and just inside the arc, that is only 2/3 of the points.

Yusuf Jihad needs to be playing at least 25 minutes every single game. He is clearly the best outside shooter on the team.

Ramy, I agree that he needs more playing time. I was stunned tonight when it took him so long to come off the bench. Playing against his brother, at least 15 family members in the crowd, he had to have a lot of "juice".
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We are last in the MAC in three point shooting. We have been there the previous two years as well. I am not sure about Heath developing guys. To me Geeter and Billingsley have not improved that much. Not too impressed by this past years recruiting class so far although Arnie has his moments. Mason Jones of Ball St is a player to watch.
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Hm maybe Blue Ribbon does know what they are doing.
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If Stan Heath wants to keep his job he will need to jettison some of the current players and bring in better scoring front court players and a dominant point guard.
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(01-16-2024 09:33 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:04 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Not gonna get all sour about it but it is just not going to happen for Eastern this season. Very simply, it is not a good team.

Welcome back, BobW! We missed you for a while.

Otherwise, I agree. There is just too many missed bunnies and unforced turnovers. And as KenBarna suggests, we don’t have consistency- in the frontcourt or with outside shooting. The players have some definite skills, look really good on many occasions, and put in a lot of effort. But nothing comes “easy” for these guys, so it is near impossible for them to keep things together for a full 40 minutes.

But they have already matched last years win total. And I do see definite progress in the frontcourt even if it is of an ebb and flow nature. And the hustle/drive is still there. So I will keep watching, and hope for the best.
I know. I will say I have enjoyed reading your posts regarding the team. I appreciate your honest yet positive perspective on what's going on with EMU hoops. You don't sugarcoat things but you are not all doom and gloom either. You have a skill that I respect...Serious question. Have you ever thought about launching an EMU podcast? I listen to a lot of the "Locked On" pods like Locked on Pistons or Locked on Tigers, Spartans, etc. We need a Locked On Eastern (Eagles would be too common) you'd be a natural and I would be an "everydayer." Keep the faith with this team!
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(01-17-2024 08:34 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If Stan Heath wants to keep his job he will need to jettison some of the current players and bring in better scoring front court players and a dominant point guard.

You often deride players who you “perceive” to not commit to the concept of “team”. So I find this post ironic.
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(01-17-2024 09:36 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:33 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:04 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Not gonna get all sour about it but it is just not going to happen for Eastern this season. Very simply, it is not a good team.

Welcome back, BobW! We missed you for a while.

Otherwise, I agree. There is just too many missed bunnies and unforced turnovers. And as KenBarna suggests, we don’t have consistency- in the frontcourt or with outside shooting. The players have some definite skills, look really good on many occasions, and put in a lot of effort. But nothing comes “easy” for these guys, so it is near impossible for them to keep things together for a full 40 minutes.

But they have already matched last years win total. And I do see definite progress in the frontcourt even if it is of an ebb and flow nature. And the hustle/drive is still there. So I will keep watching, and hope for the best.
I know. I will say I have enjoyed reading your posts regarding the team. I appreciate your honest yet positive perspective on what's going on with EMU hoops. You don't sugarcoat things but you are not all doom and gloom either. You have a skill that I respect...Serious question. Have you ever thought about launching an EMU podcast? I listen to a lot of the "Locked On" pods like Locked on Pistons or Locked on Tigers, Spartans, etc. We need a Locked On Eastern (Eagles would be too common) you'd be a natural and I would be an "everydayer." Keep the faith with this team!

Thanks for the kind words, BobW! As far as a podcast, I wondering if there would be people interested in a collective of sorts. Like Sellers dropping the football knowledge. I would be happy to contribute to some of the men’s basketball stuff. TruEMU to women’s basketball. Something like that. We all get in on it. This forum can be very informative at times…
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(01-16-2024 10:00 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  TyCuff has been nothing short of amazing this year. But his season 3 point shooting is 27.5%. While he is shooting great on drives and just inside the arc, that is only 2/3 of the points.

Yusuf Jihad needs to be playing at least 25 minutes every single game. He is clearly the best outside shooter on the team.

Ramy you are clearly EMU's biggest BB fan on this website, and I genuinely appreciate your contributions.

That said, please, please, do not get carried away with simple statistics. Liars do indeed figure and figures do indeed lie. For example, Emoni Bates was clearly the best three-ball shooter in EMU recent history. Utilizing percentages only, however, Acuff, Billingsley, KDR and even Colin Golson were better beyond the arc last season.

Acuff is clearly our best outside threat, but Jihad, "Stan's flavor of the week" three weeks ago needs to play more.
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(01-17-2024 06:50 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 08:34 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If Stan Heath wants to keep his job he will need to jettison some of the current players and bring in better scoring front court players and a dominant point guard.

You often deride players who you “perceive” to not commit to the concept of “team”. So I find this post ironic.

Which player did I deride? Hey our front court isn't very good. We will probably end up close to last in assists again. What I find ironic is your constant lipstick on the pig approach even when the results play out in front of your very eyes on the court.
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(01-17-2024 06:59 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 09:36 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:33 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:04 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Not gonna get all sour about it but it is just not going to happen for Eastern this season. Very simply, it is not a good team.

Welcome back, BobW! We missed you for a while.

Otherwise, I agree. There is just too many missed bunnies and unforced turnovers. And as KenBarna suggests, we don’t have consistency- in the frontcourt or with outside shooting. The players have some definite skills, look really good on many occasions, and put in a lot of effort. But nothing comes “easy” for these guys, so it is near impossible for them to keep things together for a full 40 minutes.

But they have already matched last years win total. And I do see definite progress in the frontcourt even if it is of an ebb and flow nature. And the hustle/drive is still there. So I will keep watching, and hope for the best.
I know. I will say I have enjoyed reading your posts regarding the team. I appreciate your honest yet positive perspective on what's going on with EMU hoops. You don't sugarcoat things but you are not all doom and gloom either. You have a skill that I respect...Serious question. Have you ever thought about launching an EMU podcast? I listen to a lot of the "Locked On" pods like Locked on Pistons or Locked on Tigers, Spartans, etc. We need a Locked On Eastern (Eagles would be too common) you'd be a natural and I would be an "everydayer." Keep the faith with this team!

Thanks for the kind words, BobW! As far as a podcast, I wondering if there would be people interested in a collective of sorts. Like Sellers dropping the football knowledge. I would be happy to contribute to some of the men’s basketball stuff. TruEMU to women’s basketball. Something like that. We all get in on it. This forum can be very informative at times…

Sellers is both a fan and a critic that points out the truth. That's why makes him worth listening to. By the way many of us called out individual football players and coaches about this past football season and no one got underwear in a twist.
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(01-17-2024 07:47 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 10:00 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  TyCuff has been nothing short of amazing this year. But his season 3 point shooting is 27.5%. While he is shooting great on drives and just inside the arc, that is only 2/3 of the points.

Yusuf Jihad needs to be playing at least 25 minutes every single game. He is clearly the best outside shooter on the team.

Ramy you are clearly EMU's biggest BB fan on this website, and I genuinely appreciate your contributions.

That said, please, please, do not get carried away with simple statistics. Liars do indeed figure and figures do indeed lie. For example, Emoni Bates was clearly the best three-ball shooter in EMU recent history. Utilizing percentages only, however, Acuff, Billingsley, KDR and even Colin Golson were better beyond the arc last season.

Acuff is clearly our best outside threat, but Jihad, "Stan's flavor of the week" three weeks ago needs to play more.

Fair enough point. But when Jihad has taken as many 3s as he has this season, it is not a small sample size anomaly of only taking wide open attempts. And his 46.2% blows anyone out of the water from either last year or this year. So, I will give TyCuff a lot of credit for his phenomenal year, but I stand behind that Jihad is the best outside threat on the team. Glad we do agree on getting Jihad more minutes.

Otherwise, love your usage of “flavor of the week”. I feel like all 3 years Coach Heath is still playing around with lineups way too late in the year.
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(01-17-2024 06:59 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 09:36 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:33 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-16-2024 09:04 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Not gonna get all sour about it but it is just not going to happen for Eastern this season. Very simply, it is not a good team.

Welcome back, BobW! We missed you for a while.

Otherwise, I agree. There is just too many missed bunnies and unforced turnovers. And as KenBarna suggests, we don’t have consistency- in the frontcourt or with outside shooting. The players have some definite skills, look really good on many occasions, and put in a lot of effort. But nothing comes “easy” for these guys, so it is near impossible for them to keep things together for a full 40 minutes.

But they have already matched last years win total. And I do see definite progress in the frontcourt even if it is of an ebb and flow nature. And the hustle/drive is still there. So I will keep watching, and hope for the best.
I know. I will say I have enjoyed reading your posts regarding the team. I appreciate your honest yet positive perspective on what's going on with EMU hoops. You don't sugarcoat things but you are not all doom and gloom either. You have a skill that I respect...Serious question. Have you ever thought about launching an EMU podcast? I listen to a lot of the "Locked On" pods like Locked on Pistons or Locked on Tigers, Spartans, etc. We need a Locked On Eastern (Eagles would be too common) you'd be a natural and I would be an "everydayer." Keep the faith with this team!

Thanks for the kind words, BobW! As far as a podcast, I wondering if there would be people interested in a collective of sorts. Like Sellers dropping the football knowledge. I would be happy to contribute to some of the men’s basketball stuff. TruEMU to women’s basketball. Something like that. We all get in on it. This forum can be very informative at times…

Great idea. I volunteer my brilliance to the collective. 07-coffee3
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Yeah maybe Ramy can do a podcast on his definition of a racist. I would find that fascinating.
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(01-17-2024 06:50 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 08:34 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If Stan Heath wants to keep his job he will need to jettison some of the current players and bring in better scoring front court players and a dominant point guard.

You often deride players who you “perceive” to not commit to the concept of “team”. So I find this post ironic.

He’s a big fan of arguing for the sake of arguing. I often find his points to be inconsistent as well.

Losing is frustrating. It’s a long MAC season. Hope the team finds that defensive intensity that made them watchable for most of the year. It wasn’t there in the 2nd half against Ball State, that’s for sure.
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(01-18-2024 08:29 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 06:50 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(01-17-2024 08:34 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If Stan Heath wants to keep his job he will need to jettison some of the current players and bring in better scoring front court players and a dominant point guard.

You often deride players who you “perceive” to not commit to the concept of “team”. So I find this post ironic.

He’s a big fan of arguing for the sake of arguing. I often find his points to be inconsistent as well.

Losing is frustrating. It’s a long MAC season. Hope the team finds that defensive intensity that made them watchable for most of the year. It wasn’t there in the 2nd half against Ball State, that’s for sure.

Our defense is certainly not matching earlier year effectiveness for sure Sam. I think the problem, however, is not effort but rather not being able to match up athletically with the more athletic MAC opponents we are seeing now.

Acuff, Lovejoy, McGriff and Ellerbe have decent foot speed. Other than that, I would say that Billingsley is borderline in the front court. Osojnik, Martynov, Geeter, Jihad, Serven and Randle all hustle but are just a step slow. Nor are any of them very high leapers. I can't remember a less athletic EMU basketball team.

They do work, , hence I will still watch them.
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