(01-16-2024 05:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 05:51 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 04:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 04:41 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Byron Donalds is from Florida. No can do, not without losing the Florida electoral votes,

The Republicans used to pick VP's from swing states b/c they know it helps & the country has a long line of sucess stories of picking VPs from swing states helping. Now they pick VPs from Red states & wonder why they can't win swing states.

let's play this out ... would picking Youngkin in VA piss off more pub voters (by taking their governor who is kicking arse), or swing more to DJT in a state he should win w/o Younkin...

the same applies to Huckabee Saunders in AR ... however, her seat to replace is infinitely safer based on their mail-in regs vs. VA...

toss in her pragmatic posturing from the XX side of the equation, she's a win-win that would easily force moo-moo-chelle into the tally version...

this is a power game, fellers ... that's all this shite is about...

Youngkin's term ends in Jan. 2026 (Nov. 2025) and he can't run again. One term only in Virginia.

did not know that ... thx!

strategically, I still don't like the move based on gender alone (shallow as that may be, it's a real thingy) ... I see him better off (if '28 is his goal) to stay put until then,..

fwiw, I love what Youngkin has done in VA ... have mentioned this many times since '22...

What better spotlight for '28 than to be the VP. If not, what does he do until then? Run for Congress or Senate?

(01-16-2024 05:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  …or swing more to DJT in a state he should win w/o Younkin...

You vastly over-credit Virginia, especially with Trump as the nominee stink. Apologies to all.

Might Youngkin as the v.p. selection turn the state’s 13 Electoral College votes red? Possibly. But it’s a close call.

(01-16-2024 06:55 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 05:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  …or swing more to DJT in a state he should win w/o Younkin...

You vastly over-credit Virginia, especially with Trump as the nominee stink. Apologies to all.

Might Youngkin as the v.p. selection turn the state’s 13 Electoral College votes red? Possibly. But it’s a close call.

you of all folk know I easily believe VA can go blue ... I also believe Youngkin backs DJT heavily whether he's the veep or not ... hence, "should"

(01-16-2024 06:00 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 05:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 05:51 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 04:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 04:41 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  The Republicans used to pick VP's from swing states b/c they know it helps & the country has a long line of sucess stories of picking VPs from swing states helping. Now they pick VPs from Red states & wonder why they can't win swing states.

let's play this out ... would picking Youngkin in VA piss off more pub voters (by taking their governor who is kicking arse), or swing more to DJT in a state he should win w/o Younkin...

the same applies to Huckabee Saunders in AR ... however, her seat to replace is infinitely safer based on their mail-in regs vs. VA...

toss in her pragmatic posturing from the XX side of the equation, she's a win-win that would easily force moo-moo-chelle into the tally version...

this is a power game, fellers ... that's all this shite is about...

Youngkin's term ends in Jan. 2026 (Nov. 2025) and he can't run again. One term only in Virginia.

did not know that ... thx!

strategically, I still don't like the move based on gender alone (shallow as that may be, it's a real thingy) ... I see him better off (if '28 is his goal) to stay put until then,..

fwiw, I love what Youngkin has done in VA ... have mentioned this many times since '22...

What better spotlight for '28 than to be the VP. If not, what does he do until then? Run for Congress or Senate?

or, what better scenario to have to dedicate a full two years toward fund raising and getting one's name out in the public eye ... there's no question they each have their advantages...

as JR previously posited, the best spot is SoS for him ... if that's the way it plays out, so be it .. however, I don't like two MAGA alphas in that spot...

if not, then it's obvious #groverII sees the same value in #Rama-Rod-A-Swampy in some capacity moving forward...

disclaimer: like Tesla to Westinghouse, I give full rights to the bots to coin that hashtag ...

w/o question, Vivek is DJT on 'roids with a substantively higher IQ....

(01-16-2024 03:59 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Byron Donalds is from Florida. No can do, not without losing the Florida electoral votes,

Florida could still cast its 30 electoral votes for either Trump or for Donalds, but not both.

It could be intriguing to see that kind of scenario play out. If Trump wins the College with at least 300 electoral votes, then Donalds wins with at least 270 electoral votes. But if Trump wins with 299 or less, then (barring faithless electors, etc.) no VP candidate would have an electoral majority. So the Senate would then choose the VP, with each Senator getting one (1) vote. Imagine if both the D. and the R. candidate each got the support of 50 Senators. The VP would (I guess?) break the tie in her own favor. So you would have President Trump and Vice President Harris, LOL.

Not sure whether to classify that as slapstick comedy, science fiction, or slasher/horror. But it would be something unusual to see.

OK. Let’s rule out Donald’s.

(01-16-2024 07:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Did Trump consult with the white supremist first? Did he check with Rachel Madcow?

(01-16-2024 03:59 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Byron Donalds is from Florida. No can do, not without losing the Florida electoral votes,

Florida could still cast its 30 electoral votes for either Trump or for Donalds, but not both.

Since there are individual electors, Florida could actually do 15 and 15. But in a close election, you wouldn't want to give up any EVs.

(01-17-2024 12:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-16-2024 03:59 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Byron Donalds is from Florida. No can do, not without losing the Florida electoral votes,

Florida could still cast its 30 electoral votes for either Trump or for Donalds, but not both.

Since there are individual electors, Florida could actually do 15 and 15. But in a close election, you wouldn't want to give up any EVs.

That’s a good point, I hadn’t thought of that. But either way, the whole idea of a major-party ticket with P/VP from the same state will never happen.

(01-17-2024 12:15 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

that's fonzies any way you slice it...

I suspect the Dakotas will soon be short two governors ... the north one as Energy Sec and the other as Veep.

(01-17-2024 01:33 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  I suspect the Dakotas will soon be short two governors ... the north one as Energy Sec and the other as Veep.

This I could see..

Ramaswamy wouldn't take the VP role, but he might change his mind, ya never know.

(01-17-2024 01:33 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  I suspect the Dakotas will soon be short two governors ... the north one as Energy Sec and the other as Veep.

Noem was my choice mos. ago ... I'm good if Huckabee Saunders, too ... their record is as solid as they get...

either way, you HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO WIN! ... #XXveepLivesMatter

(01-17-2024 01:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 01:33 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  I suspect the Dakotas will soon be short two governors ... the north one as Energy Sec and the other as Veep.

This I could see..

Ramaswamy wouldn't take the VP role, but he might change his mind, ya never know.

It will have to look like he had to be convinced. It’s the only way. Even though I like him a hell of a lot. He won’t be the guy. Maybe fill the top spot at the FBI after the mass firings. Cash to homeland security.

this feller from Red State is offering Stefanik as another option (yeah, female is the theme, boys) ... I'm not buying it ... however, I'm posting to pour a li'l more fuel on the fire ...

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/01/17/...l-n2168863

Quote:There's been a lot of talk about Donald Trump picking Nikki Haley as his vice president lately, and that hasn't exactly been a popular idea among most conservatives. To be fair, the speculation has been driven by the fact that the former president's campaign steadfastly refuses to rule it out while having no problem panning prospects like Vivek Ramaswamy. Something is afoot.

But is there another? According to a new report, Trump is seriously considering Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) for the spot. Of note is that RedState's own Ward Clark called this recently.

“She’s a killer,” Trump said, according to the person at the event.

Ever since then, Trump and a growing group of allies have started to look more closely at Stefanik as a running mate, according to eight people familiar with the matter, including people in Trump’s orbit, Stefanik fundraising bundlers and former Trump administration officials.

“Stefanik is at the top,” said Steve Bannon, who was Trump’s chief strategist in the White House and the architect of his 2016 campaign strategy.

“If you’re Trump, you want someone who’s loyal above all else,” a Republican campaign operative said. “Particularly because he sees Mike Pence as having made a fatal sin.”

Trashing Republicans isn't what we do here at RedState. If there's a disagreement, and there are plenty of those to be had within the GOP, we handle it through analysis, not name-calling. I say that to say that Stefanik's possible issue isn't who she is as a person, but it's her record. What's on paper is what's on paper.

If someone doesn't want Haley to be vice president, would they really want Stefanik to fill the role? She's just as supportive of Ukraine (and has supported every aid package passed so far), and her voting record is even more liberal on social issues and spending. Stefanik's Liberty Score clocks in at an "F." Her Heritage score is 56 percent for this term (i.e. she's not a recently reformed conservative), with the average Republican representative rating being an 85.

Then there's the question of what Stefanik brings to the ticket. She's in a state that will not be competitive in 2024 (any suggestion to the contrary, just like in 2020, is delusional). She isn't liked by the conservative base of the party, but because she's so heavily connected herself to Trump over the last several years, she doesn't appeal to Trump skeptics either. What extra voters is she bringing along? A vice president who adds nothing to a ticket electorally would be a very odd pick.

That's not to say Stefanik hasn't had her moments. The questioning about antisemitism that she levied in a recent hearing helped get two far-left university heads fired, including Harvard's Claudine Gay (who was ultimately finished off by a plagiarism scandal). She's also facing censure (which will never pass) from the Democrats over allegations she helped "support" the January 6th "insurrectionists."

Congressman Dan Goldman (NY-10) will today introduce a resolution to censure Congresswoman Elise Stefanik for conduct unbecoming of a member of Congress, including her consistent support of insurrectionists who attacked the United States Capitol on January 6th 2021.

Making Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) cry is always a positive in my book. Is that enough, though? Most Republicans have their redeeming qualities, but as an overall package, making Stefanik vice president would be a controversial move that could do more to divide than unite.

Is this just a blip on the radar, or is Trump seriously considering this? Who knows. I'm guessing his opinion on who to pick changes by the hour, and before this is all done, there may be some more surprises.

(01-17-2024 05:47 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 01:33 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  I suspect the Dakotas will soon be short two governors ... the north one as Energy Sec and the other as Veep.

Noem was my choice mos. ago ... I'm good if Huckabee Saunders, too ... their record is as solid as they get...

either way, you HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO WIN! ... #XXveepLivesMatter

I don't think Huckabee Saunders will do it. I think she's happy with governor, but I could be wrong.

If I'm Trump, and you can tell me I'm wrong, I need someone who can help unite the party but is not a lifelong politician.. Or make people's heads explode and get Tucker Carlson

(01-18-2024 05:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  this feller from Red State is offering Stefanik as another option (yeah, female is the theme, boys) ... I'm not buying it ... however, I'm posting to pour a li'l more fuel on the fire ...

https://twitter.com/EliseStefanik/status...6425352491



VERY COMPLIMENTARY

(01-18-2024 08:01 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Or make people's heads explode and get Tucker Carlson

Damn I like the way you think