(01-05-2024 06:11 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well i would think bussiness classes would work
taking care of millons dollars is full time job
even if you hire financial advisor, you should know what he's doing & why

There are a lot of useful classes that athletes, even the ones headed to the pros could take.

As you stated, a number of business classes.
Since many former athletes end up in either coaching or broadcasting (TV, Radio, Announcing) or PR for former pro teams, classes in communications, speech, coaching, etc would be a natural fit.

Lump them all under a Sports Management degree, even if most only stay a year or two, they will still get some education in areas they can use even as a Pro athlete.

(01-05-2024 06:11 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well i would think bussiness classes would work
taking care of millons dollars is full time job
even if you hire financial advisor, you should know what he's doing & why

The single most useful class that I have taken at any level was a wealth management class during my senior year in college. It was taught by a practicing wealth manager and I’m not joking that what I learned in that class will pay for my retirement. If it wasn’t for that class (and note I was a finance major, so I took a full slate business classes), I probably would have been one of those idiots on wallstreetbets constantly looking for action for the sake of action like a gambling addict as opposed to being a smart and disciplined long-term investor.

(01-03-2024 01:46 PM)46566 Wrote:  With the increase of the playoffs. I think cutting some bowls would be needed. You have the bowls played Tuesday thru Friday the weeks during the playoffs. Maybe as a bonus bowls bid on specific conferences to be a guaranteed participant for a set number of years. To keep things fair keep the cap at 2 guaranteed bids per conference. Like the Big Ten might want to get a spot in the holiday bowl and independence bowl. The bowls get the 2 best non playoff Big Ten teams those years. The bowls work through each conference tell each conference has 2 guaranteed spots. The rest of the open spots are at large spots. We then use the system we have now by forcing bowls to pick teams from the top down the list. Basically teams with the better record get picked first. Being a bowl with 2 at large teams could get you 2 P4 or whatever schools or you might get stuck with 2 G5 schools. Basically each bowl season gets some random matchups that could be interesting. The current system pretty much pre sets almost every matchup.

ESPN owns most of the bowls They think they are worthwhile.
In 1980 before ESPN got really involved, there were only 15 bowls, not 41.
Peach, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Rose, Gator, Sun, Fiesta, Liberty, Holiday, Tangerine (Citrus), Independence and 3 that went away, but have been replaced by bowls in the same city-Garden State in NJ, Bluebonnet in Houston, Hall of Fame in Birmingham.

(01-05-2024 06:19 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(01-05-2024 06:11 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well i would think bussiness classes would work
taking care of millons dollars is full time job
even if you hire financial advisor, you should know what he's doing & why

There are a lot of useful classes that athletes, even the ones headed to the pros could take.

As you stated, a number of business classes.
Since many former athletes end up in either coaching or broadcasting (TV, Radio, Announcing) or PR for former pro teams, classes in communications, speech, coaching, etc would be a natural fit.

Lump them all under a Sports Management degree, even if most only stay a year or two, they will still get some education in areas they can use even as a Pro athlete.

Those are common, but good students take more difficult majors. Sam Acho was in hte Business honors program at UT. Of course, he ended up being an announcer.

(01-06-2024 11:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 01:46 PM)46566 Wrote:  With the increase of the playoffs. I think cutting some bowls would be needed. You have the bowls played Tuesday thru Friday the weeks during the playoffs. Maybe as a bonus bowls bid on specific conferences to be a guaranteed participant for a set number of years. To keep things fair keep the cap at 2 guaranteed bids per conference. Like the Big Ten might want to get a spot in the holiday bowl and independence bowl. The bowls get the 2 best non playoff Big Ten teams those years. The bowls work through each conference tell each conference has 2 guaranteed spots. The rest of the open spots are at large spots. We then use the system we have now by forcing bowls to pick teams from the top down the list. Basically teams with the better record get picked first. Being a bowl with 2 at large teams could get you 2 P4 or whatever schools or you might get stuck with 2 G5 schools. Basically each bowl season gets some random matchups that could be interesting. The current system pretty much pre sets almost every matchup.

ESPN owns most of the bowls They think they are worthwhile.
In 1980 before ESPN got really involved, there were only 15 bowls, not 41.
Peach, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Rose, Gator, Sun, Fiesta, Liberty, Holiday, Tangerine (Citrus), Independence and 3 that went away, but have been replaced by bowls in the same city-Garden State in NJ, Bluebonnet in Houston, Hall of Fame in Birmingham.

Yes - this point is often neglected, which is ironic because most of the threads on this forum seem to eventually devolve into twisted conspiracies about ESPN’s control over college football at some point. Most of the bowl games aren’t merely rights deals for ESPN - they outright *own* them. You don’t even need to make some indirect connection here. If they’re still making enough money with their own metrics, they have no incentive to just drop them.

(01-06-2024 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-05-2024 06:19 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(01-05-2024 06:11 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well i would think bussiness classes would work
taking care of millons dollars is full time job
even if you hire financial advisor, you should know what he's doing & why

There are a lot of useful classes that athletes, even the ones headed to the pros could take.

As you stated, a number of business classes.
Since many former athletes end up in either coaching or broadcasting (TV, Radio, Announcing) or PR for former pro teams, classes in communications, speech, coaching, etc would be a natural fit.

Lump them all under a Sports Management degree, even if most only stay a year or two, they will still get some education in areas they can use even as a Pro athlete.

Those are common, but good students take more difficult majors. Sam Acho was in hte Business honors program at UT. Of course, he ended up being an announcer.

Nothing to stop an athlete from taking a different major - more looking at those that aren't planning on being around to get a degree (at least right away).

All this would be is to try to get as many relevant, useful classes in the time they have there.

How about this to spice up the bowl season? Let’s start by adjusting the regular season schedule. They would still play 12 games, but the schedule would be structured differently. Instead of front loading the schedule with 3 or 4 non-conference. Change it to two games. Follow that up with eight conference games. When each school has completed ten games have the committee select 16 regions of four schools like college baseball based on their rankings. Try to make regional considerations when putting these school’s together in each region. So fans can travel easier to them. 1 and 2 seeds from each pid would host the first game, and if both of them won then the 1 seed would host the final game. The winner of each of these regions would go in the CFP.

So this would make the last two weeks of college football extremely intriguing. You could also take best 16 remaining schools from the regions and do a separate Bowl Invitational tourney like the NIT. Make sure the players get their share too as an incentive to play. You don’t need conference championship games. Not with a format like this. Hope that all made sense the way I explained it.

(01-03-2024 03:22 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 11:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 07:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 06:39 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-29-2023 10:59 AM)NotoriousOne Wrote:  4. Shift the transfer portal to open on May 1st. Yes, this means players cannot transfer for spring ball, but who said that was the goal of the portal? If you play a football season then you stay at that school for the entire academic year.

That's the kind of restraint that is going to be challenged in court.

Open up the transfer portal on the day after the quarterfinals end, it doesn't substantially prevent players from enrolling in Spring, so it's much less likely to be challenged in court and much more likely to stand if challenged.

For conference tie ins, they need to look at the number of bowl eligibles on average MINUS CFP and NY6 bowls, because those will all be CFP12 games going ahead.

Then round that down and have a couple a pool bowls for the first out from each of the P4.

Every bowl is understood to be "just an exhibition game", as they were originally, but the two "first out" bowls are elevated as a higher tier exhibition, with NIL including starter and playing time bonuses to get second and lower round draft prospects interested in playing one last game.

having the date on 1/2 would bring about a lot of lawsuits as well. It absolutely would prevent players from enrolling in spring.

Why? Classes usually start mid-January.

a lot of them start by the 2nd week. ...

But how many Universities have their drop/add date in the second week? USC Columbia starts classes on the 9th of January, and have the last day to add classes the 17th of January.

(01-03-2024 08:31 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 07:55 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 05:03 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Tampa Times put out an article, 8 ways to fix CFB

#6- get rid of student athlete,
straight mercenaries

i don't know about you guys, that not what i sighed up for

I feel like we are already there, but no, I would like the illusion the players are going to class.

Are the vast majority of these players that aren't doing STEM followed by grad studies really going to earn a decent living at the end of the day? You may as well stay in school and collect humanities degrees. Remove the four year eligibility rule.

RU: you believe the Humanities are worthless? Not everyone wants to study STEM!

Best way? Make most of them in tournaments. With so many teams -- make it more exciting. And teams from the same conference can't play in it's first round.

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT (12 teams):
- Current one set for next year with same rules; Top 5 Conf Champs + 7 at-larges
- Make it so that you can't have more than 3 teams from the same conference

Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Missouri, Penn State, Oklahoma, Liberty
*Ole Miss nixed as that'd be a 4th team from SEC


NATIONAL INVITATION TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- Auto-bid to any remaining Conf Champs IF ranked in Top 25
- Rest of teams by best ranked; no more than 2 teams from the same conference unless there's only 4 different conferences at play; limit is 3 then

1 Ole Miss vs 8 SMU
4 Louisville vs 5 Notre Dame
3 Arizona vs 6 Iowa
2 LSU vs 7 NC-State


GENERAL-FIVE TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- By default, best remaining G5 teams
- Any remaining G5 Conf Champs have auto-bid
- No more than 2 teams from the same conference unless 3rd ranked in any of 3 polls

1 James Madison vs 8 UTSA
4 Boise State vs 5 Miami-OH
3 Troy vs 6 Toledo
2 Tulane vs 7 New Mexico State


BOTR (BEST-OF-THE-REST) TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- The few remaining Top 25 teams if available get auto-bids
- The other teams getting more than 5 votes in AP & Coaches poll get auto-bid; no more than 3 for a conf
- The rest selected by conference balance

1 Oregon State vs 8 West Virginia
4 Clemson vs 5 Kansas State
3 Tennessee vs 6 Utah
2 Oklahoma State vs 7 Kentucky


POWER-FOUR TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- 2 of the best remaining teams from each of the P4 conferences
- If any P4 conference lacks having 2 teams, the 3rd best from the best P4 conference is allowed [Obviously there's a P5 right now tho]

1 Kansas vs 8 Northwestern
4 Texas A&M vs 5 Miami-FL
3 North Carolina vs 6 Wisconsin
2 USC vs 7 Iowa State


... As well as others; like a GENERAL FIVE BOTTOM OUT TOURNAMENT, grabbing the worst teams in bowls to make them fight for something worthy. While having just other straight-up 1-game bowls.

(01-08-2024 03:09 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  Best way? Make most of them in tournaments. With so many teams -- make it more exciting. And teams from the same conference can't play in it's first round.

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT (12 teams):
- Current one set for next year with same rules; Top 5 Conf Champs + 7 at-larges
- Make it so that you can't have more than 3 teams from the same conference

Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Missouri, Penn State, Oklahoma, Liberty
*Ole Miss nixed as that'd be a 4th team from SEC


NATIONAL INVITATION TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- Auto-bid to any remaining Conf Champs IF ranked in Top 25
- Rest of teams by best ranked; no more than 2 teams from the same conference unless there's only 4 different conferences at play; limit is 3 then

1 Ole Miss vs 8 SMU
4 Louisville vs 5 Notre Dame
3 Arizona vs 6 Iowa
2 LSU vs 7 NC-State


GENERAL-FIVE TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- By default, best remaining G5 teams
- Any remaining G5 Conf Champs have auto-bid
- No more than 2 teams from the same conference unless 3rd ranked in any of 3 polls

1 James Madison vs 8 UTSA
4 Boise State vs 5 Miami-OH
3 Troy vs 6 Toledo
2 Tulane vs 7 New Mexico State


BOTR (BEST-OF-THE-REST) TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- The few remaining Top 25 teams if available get auto-bids
- The other teams getting more than 5 votes in AP & Coaches poll get auto-bid; no more than 3 for a conf
- The rest selected by conference balance

1 Oregon State vs 8 West Virginia
4 Clemson vs 5 Kansas State
3 Tennessee vs 6 Utah
2 Oklahoma State vs 7 Kentucky


POWER-FOUR TOURNAMENT (8 teams):
- 2 of the best remaining teams from each of the P4 conferences
- If any P4 conference lacks having 2 teams, the 3rd best from the best P4 conference is allowed [Obviously there's a P5 right now tho]

1 Kansas vs 8 Northwestern
4 Texas A&M vs 5 Miami-FL
3 North Carolina vs 6 Wisconsin
2 USC vs 7 Iowa State


... As well as others; like a GENERAL FIVE BOTTOM OUT TOURNAMENT, grabbing the worst teams in bowls to make them fight for something worthy. While having just other straight-up 1-game bowls.

there isn't going to be any dumb artificial limits on # of teams in the tourney. Top 12 teams, regardless of conference. Don't like it- be better.

And oh love how you eliminate Ole Miss but then have Michigan, Washington, Ohio St, Oregon, and Penn St in there. And oh, you take out Ole Miss, but then replace them with SEC team Oklahoma.

(12-28-2023 11:48 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  Bowls outside of the playoff picture are increasingly exhibition games between squads that may or may not much resemble the teams that earned the invitation. What can we do?

Here are a few ideas. I like (1) paying players real money to participate and (2) putting 'bowl season' into the spring to create showcase scrimmages or (3) into late summer to create pre-season scrimmages or high-profile season openers.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...224011520/

I like the idea of a G5 NIT type tournament. There are so many crap bowls out there that this would hopefully help put some gusto into them. I don't know know what you do with mediocre P4 Bowls though, especially in an era where star players sit or transfer for NIL reasons. Maybe just go to a 20 team playoff, all P4 champs get a buy in round 1.

CFP 1st Round:
- Las Vegas Bowl (5 vs 12)
- Sun Bowl (6 vs 11)
- Alamo Bowl (7 vs 10)
- Citrus Bowl (8 vs 9)
CFP Quarterfinals (NYE/New Years Day):
- Peach Bowl
- Fiesta Bowl
- Orange Bowl
- Rose Bowl
CFP Semifinals:
- Cotton Bowl
- Sugar Bowl
CFP National Championship Game:
- Various NFL & college stadiums

G5 NIT Tournament Quarterfinal (All 4 G5 non-CFP conference champions + 4 at-large):
- Myrtle Beach Bowl (1 vs 8)
- New Orleans Bowl (4 vs 5)
- Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (2 vs 7)
- Armed Forces Bowl (3 vs 6)
G5 NIT Tournament Semifinal:
- Independence Bowl (1/8 vs 4/5)
- Holiday Bowl (2/7 vs 3/6)
G5 NIT Tournament Championship (New Years Day):
- Gator Bowl

Consolation Bowls (7-5 or better, some 6-6):
- LA Bowl (Big 12 vs ACC)
- Music City Bowl (SEC vs B1G)
- Citrus Bowl (SEC vs B1G)
- Quick Lane Bowl (B1G vs MAC)
- Texas Bowl (Big 12 vs ACC)
- Arizona Bowl (MWC vs C-USA)
- Hawaii Bowl (MWC vs AAC)
- Bahamas Bowl (Sun Belt vs MAC)
- New Mexico Bowl (MWC vs C-USA)
- Cure Bowl (Sun Belt vs C-USA)
- Boca Raton Bowl (AAC vs Sun Belt)
- Frisco Bowl (AAC vs MWC)
- Gasparilla Bowl (AAC vs SEC)
- Birmingham Bowl (B1G vs ACC)
- Camelia Bowl (Sun Belt vs MAC)
- Mobile Bowl (Sun Belt vs MAC)
- FirstResponder Dallas Bowl (Big 12 vs AAC)
- GuaranteedRate Phoenix Bowl (Big 12 vs B1G)
- Military Bowl (ACC vs AAC)
- Duke’s Mayo Carolina Bowl (ACC vs SEC)
- Tangerine Bowl (Big 12 vs SEC)
- Liberty Bowl (Big 12 vs MWC
- Tampa Bay Bowl (B1G vs SEC)
- Pinstripe Bowl (B1G vs ACC)
- Fenway Bowl (SEC vs. ACC)

SEC - 7 bowl teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
B1G - 7 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
Big 12 - 6 bowl teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
ACC - 7 bowl teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
AAC - 6 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
MWC - 5 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
Sun Belt - 5 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
MAC - 4 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams
C-USA - 3 teams + 1-5 CFP/NIT teams

70 teams, 43 bowls/games.