I got one J&J that August and that was it. I never got covid until last month. I know it has gotten weaker overall, but I doubt having a shot 2+ years ago means anything now.

Anyhow, I got covid - and it was barely an annoyance. No cough, no fever, a runny nose for about 3 days like any other common cold... and i did not die either.


Unless you have a co-morbidity the shot is only helping pay the bills at Big-Pharma...

(12-17-2023 09:08 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I got one J&J that August and that was it. I never got covid until last month. I know it has gotten weaker overall, but I doubt having a shot 2+ years ago means anything now.

Anyhow, I got covid - and it was barely an annoyance. No cough, no fever, a runny nose for about 3 days like any other common cold... and i did not die either.


Unless you have a co-morbidity the shot is only helping pay the bills at Big-Pharma...

My experience was much the same, other than my runny nose lasted four days instead of the usual two. No other symptoms. No fatigue, no fever, no loss of smell.

I very much hope that the "vaccine" is now fully out of my system. My concern is that, as ineffective as it is at preventing the disease, it was meant to be a permanent alteration to my immunity system. Prison is not a good enough punishment for the Fauci Mafia.

(12-17-2023 08:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By March of 2022, the “independent, free thinking people” who did not receive a Covid vaccine died at 17x’s the rate of those who had received at least 1 round of the vaccine.

Which was still a very low rate. And that doesn't even consider the impact on numbers of funding policies that created a significant financial incentive for providers to oversate COVID cases and deaths.

By the way, source for your claim?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...ed-people/

Another left wing rag

(12-17-2023 09:22 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 09:08 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I got one J&J that August and that was it. I never got covid until last month. I know it has gotten weaker overall, but I doubt having a shot 2+ years ago means anything now.

Anyhow, I got covid - and it was barely an annoyance. No cough, no fever, a runny nose for about 3 days like any other common cold... and i did not die either.


Unless you have a co-morbidity the shot is only helping pay the bills at Big-Pharma...

My experience was much the same, other than my runny nose lasted four days instead of the usual two. No other symptoms. No fatigue, no fever, no loss of smell.

I very much hope that the "vaccine" is now fully out of my system. My concern is that, as ineffective as it is at preventing the disease, it was meant to be a permanent alteration to my immunity system. Prison is not a good enough punishment for the Fauci Mafia.

The bolded above was me back in Feb 2020 as the USA was just beginning to realize this Kung Flu was beginning to spread. Mine lasted 4 days as well. My wife had it right after me; again 4 days. It was weird since neither of us get sick that often.

Today there are about 150k COVID cases. The high mark in USA was 3.84m on 1/21/22.

Absolutely agree about the Fauci mafia.

(12-17-2023 10:58 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By March of 2022, the “independent, free thinking people” who did not receive a Covid vaccine died at 17x’s the rate of those who had received at least 1 round of the vaccine.

Which was still a very low rate. And that doesn't even consider the impact on numbers of funding policies that created a significant financial incentive for providers to oversate COVID cases and deaths.

By the way, source for your claim?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...ed-people/

Thats the way they lie dude. Read the statement in the the dummies post.

It doesnt it doesnt really tell the truth. It doesnt say in our control grouo of individuals with with similar health 17 more died.

17% more may have died before the vax was available.n

Did 17% more d1 football players die because they didnt get the jab? There is a control group.

The frickers lie and retards that havent learned to think believe it.

Scientific American is niether.

(12-17-2023 11:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 10:58 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By March of 2022, the “independent, free thinking people” who did not receive a Covid vaccine died at 17x’s the rate of those who had received at least 1 round of the vaccine.

Which was still a very low rate. And that doesn't even consider the impact on numbers of funding policies that created a significant financial incentive for providers to oversate COVID cases and deaths.

By the way, source for your claim?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...ed-people/

Thats the way they lie dude. Read the statement in the the dummies post.

It doesnt it doesnt really tell the truth. It doesnt say in our control grouo of individuals with with similar health 17 more died.

17% more may have died before the vax was available.n

Did 17% more d1 football players die because they didnt get the jab? There is a control group.

The frickers lie and retards that havent learned to think believe it.

Scientific American is niether.

17x’s is far greater than 17%… but, well, nevermind.

(12-17-2023 01:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 11:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 10:58 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By March of 2022, the “independent, free thinking people” who did not receive a Covid vaccine died at 17x’s the rate of those who had received at least 1 round of the vaccine.

Which was still a very low rate. And that doesn't even consider the impact on numbers of funding policies that created a significant financial incentive for providers to oversate COVID cases and deaths.

By the way, source for your claim?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...ed-people/

Thats the way they lie dude. Read the statement in the the dummies post.

It doesnt it doesnt really tell the truth. It doesnt say in our control grouo of individuals with with similar health 17 more died.

17% more may have died before the vax was available.n

Did 17% more d1 football players die because they didnt get the jab? There is a control group.

The frickers lie and retards that havent learned to think believe it.

Scientific American is niether.

17x’s is far greater than 17%… but, well, nevermind.

A lie is a lie.

(12-17-2023 01:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 01:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 11:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 10:58 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(12-17-2023 08:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Which was still a very low rate. And that doesn't even consider the impact on numbers of funding policies that created a significant financial incentive for providers to oversate COVID cases and deaths.

By the way, source for your claim?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...ed-people/

Thats the way they lie dude. Read the statement in the the dummies post.

It doesnt it doesnt really tell the truth. It doesnt say in our control grouo of individuals with with similar health 17 more died.

17% more may have died before the vax was available.n

Did 17% more d1 football players die because they didnt get the jab? There is a control group.

The frickers lie and retards that havent learned to think believe it.

Scientific American is niether.

17x’s is far greater than 17%… but, well, nevermind.

A lie is a lie.

Normally yes. Here it is much, much worse. The malice aforethought was massive. They immediately silenced the voices of Drs. disagreeing with their positions via threat of continued employment at corporately owned hospitals or in government research projects. They deliberately skewed the death toll by incentivizing hospitals with a government subsidy for every death categorized as COVID, and they attacked the use of Ivermectin even though they have now in the aftermath admitted it was effective in relieving symptoms which complicated breathing and cost people their lives. They have utilized the W.H.O. to deny data coming from countries that didn't agree with the information put out, or whose research found other discrepancies in the official storyline of Big Pharma and Governments lining up with the globalist agendas. They denied immediately the deaths due to cardiac arrythmias, particularly those in young healthy males under 40 and females under 40 though their incidence of death wasn't as high as those of the males.

It's the intricate setting in place of various aspects of denial and reward of those cooperating with lies which point to things heretofore not considered:
1. They knew the effects of the vaccines and wanted no controversy while implementing them. That makes them liable and culpable for the deaths related to it.
2. They suppressed cheaper and effective means of control. That begs the question of why?
3. They incentivized the death toll to be much higher than simply COVID related deaths. Normal administrations don't want to do this. They would want to tamp the count down. Why? They wanted more vaccines (meaning boosters) required. Why? They wanted the profits, the control, and are guilty of more deaths.

All of that makes this far worse than simple lying.

I got COVID (Delta) back in 2020 and ended up in the hospital for a few days. After two courses of Remdesivir, I recovered and went home. I never got the jab. This October, I got COVID again. It was like having a cold, only not as bad. They try to sell fear so they can peddle their vaccines. These vaccines will never end. Once you take one, you will always need the boosters. It's all about control.