Kruciff
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Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
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Quote:It's become a holiday tradition, especially in the red states. Every year, in response to overtly Christian displays put up in government buildings, the Satanic Temple petitions to set up a display honoring Lucifer in state capitols. They usually succeed. See, the Supreme Court long ago created a loophole in the First Amendment to allow religious displays, by arguing that as long as every group gets to have one, it doesn't violate the "no establishment of religion" clause. By putting up altars to Satan next to the annual nativity scenes, the Satanic Temple makes their point about the silliness of this loophole.
More important, however, is the trolling part. Every year, Christian conservatives discover the Satanic display and have a loud, public temper tantrum about it. In this, Satanists prove their point: Conservatives claim to respect religious plurality, but it's a lie. The overt religious iconography on government property was always about promoting the Christian nationalist view that theirs is the only "real" American religion.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
oh, lookie lookie at ball on hooky....
Kruciff = troll-la-la
wtf is wrong with ewe....
#whackjobber
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
I'll worry about equal representation when I drive through town and see as many Satanist buildings as I do churches.
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Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
This feels like “hypocrisy” when you don’t have a moral code to live by.
Odd hill to die on, but die away.
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Kruciff
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 12:32 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote: This feels like “hypocrisy” when you don’t have a moral code to live by.
Odd hill to die on, but die away.
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Christians don't hold the keys to morality
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
Satanists do?
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
I thought leftists were against religious stuff in government buildings? As long as it isn't Christian then it's ok. We all know this.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
that boy loves diggin' him some holes...
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Kruciff
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
that boy loves diggin' him some holes...
Or.... morality is independent of religion? I thought that was the obvious implication, but Bartlett, as usual, misunderstood.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 12:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:32 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote: This feels like “hypocrisy” when you don’t have a moral code to live by.
Odd hill to die on, but die away.
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Christians don't hold the keys to morality
Well, actually they do. Christians believe God created man in his likeness. Show me one other creature that has morals and you will win the argument. Otherwise continue to serve your master.
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Kruciff
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Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:18 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:32 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote: This feels like “hypocrisy” when you don’t have a moral code to live by.
Odd hill to die on, but die away.
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Christians don't hold the keys to morality
Well, actually they do. Christians believe God created man in his likeness. Show me one other creature that has morals and you will win the argument. Otherwise continue to serve your master.
Everything that existed before Christianity?
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (12-12-2023 01:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
that boy loves diggin' him some holes...
Or.... morality is independent of religion? I thought that was the obvious implication, but Bartlett, as usual, misunderstood.
certainly, you realize I'm an A-theist, Ja?!
FU with that circular bs ... ewer trollin', brah...
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Kruciff
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
Getting back on topic:
Quote:As many people pointed out, Republicans have defended genocidal and violent rhetoric for years now under the guise of "free speech." Trump's unsubtle calls for violence against his perceived enemies have led to an attempted murder of the husband of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, R.-Calif., threats against government employees and even private citizens, and, of course, the insurrection of January 6, 2021. Dehumanizing rhetoric against Black Lives Matter protesters and "great replacement" theory have led to mass murder, shootings, and conservatives crashing cars into protests. But when liberals call for social media companies to curb the ugly rhetoric using their legal powers to self-regulate, a chorus of right wing whining about "cancel culture" erupts. We do not need to litigate how real the threat of campus anti-semitism is, in order to see how Republians use tensions over hate speech and the First Amendment to advance their "free speech for me, but not for thee" agenda
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
I thought the Christians lost on this issue a long time ago, another reminder of how Democrats like to live in the past.
They won on the issue & they're still triggered
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
I would thank the people trying to stop the satanists... and satan for that matter... but that's just me.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
The people that do this are trolls and they are admitting God exists even Jesus by placing that retarded display up. I guess they they picked their side, good luck.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (12-12-2023 01:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
that boy loves diggin' him some holes...
Or.... morality is independent of religion? I thought that was the obvious implication, but Bartlett, as usual, misunderstood.
Not necessarily as humans have worshiped one god or another since civilizations formed. The various religions were instrumental in establishing morals and are the foundation for most laws in existence today.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Getting back on topic:
Quote:As many people pointed out, Republicans have defended genocidal and violent rhetoric for years now under the guise of "free speech." Trump's unsubtle calls for violence against his perceived enemies have led to an attempted murder of the husband of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, R.-Calif., threats against government employees and even private citizens, and, of course, the insurrection of January 6, 2021. Dehumanizing rhetoric against Black Lives Matter protesters and "great replacement" theory have led to mass murder, shootings, and conservatives crashing cars into protests. But when liberals call for social media companies to curb the ugly rhetoric using their legal powers to self-regulate, a chorus of right wing whining about "cancel culture" erupts. We do not need to litigate how real the threat of campus anti-semitism is, in order to see how Republians use tensions over hate speech and the First Amendment to advance their "free speech for me, but not for thee" agenda
trolling ≠ "on topic"
this easily qualifies as bbs ad hoc warfare when one CHOOSES to whisper spite in pretense...
I warned youse fellers ... nuts zongo can play this game however EWEs choose...
keep on truckin', brah ... I'm ewer sig line '4'shadow, now...
ewe can always go the route of RWT ... it won't help ewer 'cause'...
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Getting back on topic:
Quote:As many people pointed out, Republicans have defended genocidal and violent rhetoric for years now under the guise of "free speech." Trump's unsubtle calls for violence against his perceived enemies have led to an attempted murder of the husband of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, R.-Calif., threats against government employees and even private citizens, and, of course, the insurrection of January 6, 2021. Dehumanizing rhetoric against Black Lives Matter protesters and "great replacement" theory have led to mass murder, shootings, and conservatives crashing cars into protests. But when liberals call for social media companies to curb the ugly rhetoric using their legal powers to self-regulate, a chorus of right wing whining about "cancel culture" erupts. We do not need to litigate how real the threat of campus anti-semitism is, in order to see how Republians use tensions over hate speech and the First Amendment to advance their "free speech for me, but not for thee" agenda
Great replacement is real, and it's genocidal targeted against people of European ancestry. It's not even new. Freedom of Speech is stopping government censorship.
Anything that anyone right says is called, racist, antisemitic, homophobic etc., you do that to silence speech not to debate. Genocidal white replacement isn't antisemitic it's anti white retard.
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RE: Every holiday, Republicans remind us "Free Speech" is only for them
(12-12-2023 01:39 PM)bearcat65 Wrote: (12-12-2023 01:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (12-12-2023 01:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (12-12-2023 12:39 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Satanists do?
that boy loves diggin' him some holes...
Or.... morality is independent of religion? I thought that was the obvious implication, but Bartlett, as usual, misunderstood.
Not necessarily as humans have worshiped one god or another since civilizations formed. The various religions were instrumental in establishing morals and are the foundation for most laws in existence today.
And i'm sure you're going to claim that that means the Christian God is responsible?
Morality is a social construct that led to more tight knit, effective social groups. Doing "good" or doing "bad" had direct impacts on a communities ability to survive and co-exist to each others mutual benefit. Doing "bad" led to isolation from the group, which is effectively a death sentence for a social creature such as humans.
Morality pre-dates Christiantiy, and possibly religion entirely.
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