Date: December 3rd, 2023

Time: 3:00 PM

Opponent: Jacksonville State (4-4, 0-0 C-USA)

Place: Pete Matthews Coliseum (3,500)

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I believe they are in C-USA?

(12-01-2023 11:11 AM)Buced_Up Wrote:  I believe they are in C-USA?

Correct!

This team has a long way to go to be competitive in Socon

So freaking tired of the long scoring droughts. Someone hit a damn shot

And an 11-0 run to start the 2nd half and take the lead

So annoyed that Jax State had a chance to win at the end. Still, must give credit to the blue and gold for the big run opening of 2nd half, as well as end game run to secure the final lead.

True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

(12-03-2023 05:11 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

A truly nice win on the road against a decent team. Thank you coaches and players. Now Bucs get a deserved week off for some rest and exams. Go Bucs!

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:11 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

OK, then enlighten us all on why a college team of any sport plays — for a nice workout?

(12-03-2023 05:25 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  A truly nice win on the road against a decent team. Thank you coaches and players. Now Bucs get a deserved week off for some rest and exams. Go Bucs!

Absolutely. The first Forbes season — he was 4 - 4 after the first 8 games. Looking across college scores, many teams win and lose games by the same margins as ETSU. A win is a win no matter the score, and goes in the W column. GO BUS on the upcoming 3 games home stretch.

A win is a win for sure.. glad to see them pull this one out and get their first true road win!

(12-03-2023 05:25 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  A truly nice win on the road against a decent team. Thank you coaches and players. Now Bucs get a deserved week off for some rest and exams. Go Bucs!

Well, not exactly. Exam week isn't until December 9-14. Classes don't end until this Friday, December 8.

(12-03-2023 06:13 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:11 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

OK, then enlighten us all on why a college team of any sport plays — for a nice workout?

*Of course* a player or team plays to win. The problem is saying it's the ONLY thing. So you would defend the Michigan and Astros cheaters? There's tons of analogies and examples, but those are obvious and recent. What's the point of playing if it's not a fair contest? Playing to win *with* proper ethics, sportsmanship, etc., is the way to go. Hating to quote bartow (eyeroll) , but "winning the right way".

Don't know if you have kids, but would you really want them to behave like that in life?

(12-03-2023 06:47 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 06:13 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:11 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

OK, then enlighten us all on why a college team of any sport plays — for a nice workout?

*Of course* a player or team plays to win. The problem is saying it's the ONLY thing. So you would defend the Michigan and Astros cheaters? There's tons of analogies and examples, but those are obvious and recent. What's the point of playing if it's not a fair contest? Playing to win *with* proper ethics, sportsmanship, etc., is the way to go. Hating to quote bartow (eyeroll) , but "winning the right way".

Don't know if you have kids, but would you really want them to behave like that in life?

Where are you coming from? What are you talking about -my kids? You are off the rails here. How did you come up with the notion that I condone cheating, am unethical, etc. in order to win or for anything else? OF COURSE I AM NOT FOR CHEATING OR BEING UNETHICAL FOR ANYTHING!! Sports, with exceptions, is one of the few things left that has equally enforced rules. And, for example, Michigan should have been disqualified from the playoffs and placed on probation. The NCAA has one big black eye for that one, and has turned the 2023 CFP into a joke.

This team desperately needs someone who will be a bully down low. Jacksonville State had a guy that was. Seems like that guy would just rip the ball away from us and we go up for rebounds and the ball just bounces off of our hands. We have to get tougher down low going forward.

(12-03-2023 07:51 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  This team desperately needs someone who will be a bully down low. Jacksonville State had a guy that was. Seems like that guy would just rip the ball away from us and we go up for rebounds and the ball just bounces off of our hands. We have to get tougher down low going forward.

This here! Parker needs help down low, and one can only hope the time off helps Hughes get healthier. Not sure he's the answer, but 6'6 230 would be nice.

Good win, especially with Q in foul trouble, but we gotta start making free throws.

GO BUCS!

(12-03-2023 07:08 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 06:47 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 06:13 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:11 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  True in 1948 and true today —- Henry ‘Red’ Sanders of the UCLA Bruins:

Winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing. GO BUCS!

That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

OK, then enlighten us all on why a college team of any sport plays — for a nice workout?

*Of course* a player or team plays to win. The problem is saying it's the ONLY thing. So you would defend the Michigan and Astros cheaters? There's tons of analogies and examples, but those are obvious and recent. What's the point of playing if it's not a fair contest? Playing to win *with* proper ethics, sportsmanship, etc., is the way to go. Hating to quote bartow (eyeroll) , but "winning the right way".

Don't know if you have kids, but would you really want them to behave like that in life?

Where are you coming from? What are you talking about -my kids? You are off the rails here. How did you come up with the notion that I condone cheating, am unethical, etc. in order to win or for anything else? OF COURSE I AM NOT FOR CHEATING OR BEING UNETHICAL FOR ANYTHING!! Sports, with exceptions, is one of the few things left that has equally enforced rules. And, for example, Michigan should have been disqualified from the playoffs and placed on probation. The NCAA has one big black eye for that one, and has turned the 2023 CFP into a joke.

Where am I coming from? Pretty obvious that I was trying to show how "winning is the only thing" is a terrible policy - or philosophy for life (of which sport is part). Since words have meaning, cheating would be acceptable to get to "winning", right? After all, that's the "only thing". Playing fair and honest would be secondary to winning. As to your kids, it was hypothetical, pretty obviously, since I clearly made it speculative ("don't know if"). Coulda been my kids, or Brooks Savage's kids, or, pardon the horrible thought only for giggles, Marky Mark's kids. I'm NOT saying you condone cheating, but that's exactly one of the things that old saw implies.

(12-04-2023 02:46 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 07:08 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 06:47 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 06:13 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  That's a terrible philosophy. Not true in 1948; not true when Lombardi used it; not true today.

OK, then enlighten us all on why a college team of any sport plays — for a nice workout?

*Of course* a player or team plays to win. The problem is saying it's the ONLY thing. So you would defend the Michigan and Astros cheaters? There's tons of analogies and examples, but those are obvious and recent. What's the point of playing if it's not a fair contest? Playing to win *with* proper ethics, sportsmanship, etc., is the way to go. Hating to quote bartow (eyeroll) , but "winning the right way".

Don't know if you have kids, but would you really want them to behave like that in life?

Where are you coming from? What are you talking about -my kids? You are off the rails here. How did you come up with the notion that I condone cheating, am unethical, etc. in order to win or for anything else? OF COURSE I AM NOT FOR CHEATING OR BEING UNETHICAL FOR ANYTHING!! Sports, with exceptions, is one of the few things left that has equally enforced rules. And, for example, Michigan should have been disqualified from the playoffs and placed on probation. The NCAA has one big black eye for that one, and has turned the 2023 CFP into a joke.

Where am I coming from? Pretty obvious that I was trying to show how "winning is the only thing" is a terrible policy - or philosophy for life (of which sport is part). Since words have meaning, cheating would be acceptable to get to "winning", right? After all, that's the "only thing". Playing fair and honest would be secondary to winning. As to your kids, it was hypothetical, pretty obviously, since I clearly made it speculative ("don't know if"). Coulda been my kids, or Brooks Savage's kids, or, pardon the horrible thought only for giggles, Marky Mark's kids. I'm NOT saying you condone cheating, but that's exactly one of the things that old saw implies.

Wasn’t talking about a “philosophy” for life. Wasn’t talking about cheating as a way to win at all cost. Don’t think the old UCLA coach in 1948 was advocating cheating either in order to win. And, never heard that Lombardi was a cheater or advocated cheating by using the saying. I was thinking specifically of ETSU’s win over Jax State with the post. I can only assume ETSU won honestly, by the rules — and coached and played by people of integrity. Guarantee you, WINNING that game by the rules was the goal of both teams when they walked on the court. Guarantee you - ETSU fans wanted the Bucs to win that game - by the rules and with integrity. Again - there’s nothing like a win in a sporting event.