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RE: Official 2023 - 2024 Transfer Portal Thread
(01-21-2024 01:10 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
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(01-19-2024 12:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  And remember for each player coming in there will be one going out. All that matters is being at the number 85 come August. Yes the staff realized perhaps that they didn't have the personnel to win after last season so an almost 60-65% roster shake up was in order. Kudos to them for biting the reality bullet.

Amen to that. I hate the portal, and Dabo Swiney does as well. Dabo, however, has the power to act upon his "hate". The "reality bullet" has transformed his program from Top Ten to the Penn St, Iowa, Mississipi level.

I love the portal and i hate Dabo.

As a whole we seem to be good at the portal. I trust our staff to keep working it.

Man, I keep thinking about how different this team will be next year. I'm fired up to see thr new faces and also see the younger guys who were part of really good recruiting classes get their moment It's going to be very tough to predict how we will be next year given the turn over but on paper we look real good. Obvious questions at O-line but I really like what we got at the LB position and am excited to see Carter Evans, Swindle and Messiah on the D-line. Looks like we upgraded at WR and QB. We also bring back Seatbelt Scotty, Daiquan and Cam Smith in the secondary. TE could be an upgrade with the transfer in from Florida.

This is a good feeling going in to the off-season, guys Tougher schedule next year but I think CC knows the bar has been elevated and they had a let down last season with a sub par record and embarrassment in the bowl game. I think all that factored in to getting so many new faces. Hope they all gel and we can get back to being a serious contender.

I also really like the new MAC format of just being the top 2 teams in 1 conference to get to Detroit.
100% with you on this. CC clearly saw a need for increased talent and seems to have changed the programs recruiting strategy. Time will tell if that change was permanent or just a 1-year thing.

Agree. My guess is that C.C. saw it was easier to evaluate college players, some P5, than 17 year old high school players.

I think the program's image is improved and helps get transfers.

I assume the SAPC is key. Players when they are thinking of going G5 want to make sure the school has 1st rate facilities.
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RE: Official 2023 - 2024 Transfer Portal Thread
Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.
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(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Jaylon came from Lamar.
El-Zayed from Fordham
Luke Cameron from Army
Peavy from Navy
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RE: Official 2023 - 2024 Transfer Portal Thread
(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Hopefully the new guys bring great chemistry into the program. We saw a highly rated transfer class in hoops that was a chemistry disaster.
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RE: Official 2023 - 2024 Transfer Portal Thread
(01-22-2024 11:33 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Hopefully the new guys bring great chemistry into the program. We saw a highly rated transfer class in hoops that was a chemistry disaster.

I think the issue is what did they do at their previous schools? Some guys like the WRs we brought in last year (Swinton and Lockett) came from P5 schools but didn't really do much at those schools. Sparacio and Kline had an impact (not a big one, but still) at their schools. Looking at Rooks, Odom, Mimms, and Djonkam they at least contributed at P5 schools, which should hopefully lead to them at least being average players for us.
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(01-22-2024 02:22 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 11:33 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Hopefully the new guys bring great chemistry into the program. We saw a highly rated transfer class in hoops that was a chemistry disaster.

I think the issue is what did they do at their previous schools? Some guys like the WRs we brought in last year (Swinton and Lockett) came from P5 schools but didn't really do much at those schools. Sparacio and Kline had an impact (not a big one, but still) at their schools. Looking at Rooks, Odom, Mimms, and Djonkam they at least contributed at P5 schools, which should hopefully lead to them at least being average players for us.

Agree.

Some transfers looked AT THE TIME OF THEIR SIGNING to be promising prospects. Others looked like team members. Maybe special teamers..

I assume any player who makes the 2-deeps of a P5 can play. I like the names you mentioned.
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(01-22-2024 07:27 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 11:22 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Jaylon came from Lamar.
El-Zayed from Fordham
Luke Cameron from Army
Peavy from Navy

Sorry Dan but I will side with the Hawk on this one. Jaylon had a decent career here, El-Zayat, Peavy and especially Cameron, were less than impressive.

TJ Peavy appeared in 31 games with 57 solo tackles and had his final season and career cut short by an injury. Thats a productive rotation defensive back if ive ever seen one.

Dmitri Douglas was a valuable transfer O-Lineman

Chris Mayo appeared in 10 games for EMU last year

Luke Cameron appeared in 47 games with 31 tackles - again a useful rotational LB

And saying 'Outside the QB position' is a pretty convenient way to ignore taylor powell and ben bryant.
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Going back further, Luke McLean was a great DL for us playing alongside Pat O'Connor then Maxx Crosby. He transfered in from Pitt.
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(01-22-2024 11:22 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(01-22-2024 10:39 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  Overall I'm a little weary about all the FBS transfers. Historically EMU has done far better with JUCO than FBS talent.

I may be forgetting someone but outside of the QB position a couple times, I can't recall a FBS transfer not named Samson Evans, Joe Sparacio, or Chase Kline making any sort of significant impact.

Jaylon came from Lamar.
El-Zayed from Fordham
Luke Cameron from Army
Peavy from Navy

I meant more P5 but those are good ones.
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Of course we have had better luck with JUCO players. The JUCO to FBS route is well established. The FBS to FBS route is a few years old. Up to a few years ago, only graduating players and those desperate to get out of dodge used the FBS to FBS route.
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(01-23-2024 11:11 PM)masttg Wrote:  Of course we have had better luck with JUCO players. The JUCO to FBS route is well established. The FBS to FBS route is a few years old. Up to a few years ago, only graduating players and those desperate to get out of dodge used the FBS to FBS route.

And I like D-I transfers better. As the program got better, our transfers got better. COGS
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(01-23-2024 11:11 PM)masttg Wrote:  Of course we have had better luck with JUCO players. The JUCO to FBS route is well established. The FBS to FBS route is a few years old. Up to a few years ago, only graduating players and those desperate to get out of dodge used the FBS to FBS route.

So now that I no longer have a horse in this race, I can be a little more open with some of the things I've learned over the past few years. One of those is that JUCO transfers nearly always have some ramp-up time, and their ability to start/have an immediate impact can be very much position-related. Skill players coming in tend to be wiry, athletic guys, and can get up to speed pretty quickly. Linemen, on the other hand, can be a crap shoot.

On several occasions, I'd ask my favorite former Eagle about some of the JUCO linemen transfers the Eagles had who were highly anticipated but were never (or rarely) seen on the field. In most cases, the response hit on three key things. First, their film looks good because they were talented players at the JUCO level playing against less talented JUCO players. The abilities seen in those game films don't necessarily indicate how they will perform in a D1 program, which tends to have bigger, faster, stronger, and more talented guys than what they faced at the JUCO level. Some of these guys struggle when they get to the D1 level.

Next, the weight and height stats reported at the JUCO level (and I'm sure even at the D1 level in many cases) are not always accurate. I'd regularly hear that these O-line guys would arrive and be inches shorter than what they were listed, and several pounds North of what was listed. Many of those guys would require significant time with the nutritionist and conditioning staff to get down to the weight targets EMU has for its linemen. In several cases it took a year to get them to weight, and some of the guys burn out and pretty much give up trying.

Finally, some of the JUCO guys come in well below the conditioning and strength standards the Eagles have, and physically are not ready to challenge for a position, much less succeed in gameplay. It's not unusual for these guys to say that they never worked as hard in the weight room or in conditioning drills at their JUCO as they do at EMU. In a way, their first season at EMU is like a Redshirt's first year coming out of high school.

All that said, at least for linemen, taking a D1 transfer could be a wiser choice than a JUCO transfer as the D1 transfer at least has D1 off-field experience and a sense of what to expect when he arrives in Ypsilanti.
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(01-24-2024 09:59 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(01-23-2024 11:11 PM)masttg Wrote:  Of course we have had better luck with JUCO players. The JUCO to FBS route is well established. The FBS to FBS route is a few years old. Up to a few years ago, only graduating players and those desperate to get out of dodge used the FBS to FBS route.

So now that I no longer have a horse in this race, I can be a little more open with some of the things I've learned over the past few years. One of those is that JUCO transfers nearly always have some ramp-up time, and their ability to start/have an immediate impact can be very much position-related. Skill players coming in tend to be wiry, athletic guys, and can get up to speed pretty quickly. Linemen, on the other hand, can be a crap shoot.

On several occasions, I'd ask my favorite former Eagle about some of the JUCO linemen transfers the Eagles had who were highly anticipated but were never (or rarely) seen on the field. In most cases, the response hit on three key things. First, their film looks good because they were talented players at the JUCO level playing against less talented JUCO players. The abilities seen in those game films don't necessarily indicate how they will perform in a D1 program, which tends to have bigger, faster, stronger, and more talented guys than what they faced at the JUCO level. Some of these guys struggle when they get to the D1 level.

Next, the weight and height stats reported at the JUCO level (and I'm sure even at the D1 level in many cases) are not always accurate. I'd regularly hear that these O-line guys would arrive and be inches shorter than what they were listed, and several pounds North of what was listed. Many of those guys would require significant time with the nutritionist and conditioning staff to get down to the weight targets EMU has for its linemen. In several cases it took a year to get them to weight, and some of the guys burn out and pretty much give up trying.

Finally, some of the JUCO guys come in well below the conditioning and strength standards the Eagles have, and physically are not ready to challenge for a position, much less succeed in gameplay. It's not unusual for these guys to say that they never worked as hard in the weight room or in conditioning drills at their JUCO as they do at EMU. In a way, their first season at EMU is like a Redshirt's first year coming out of high school.

All that said, at least for linemen, taking a D1 transfer could be a wiser choice than a JUCO transfer as the D1 transfer at least has D1 off-field experience and a sense of what to expect when he arrives in Ypsilanti.

Amen. You hit a lot of important points.

First, being an OL is nothing like being a WR, RB, etc. Size, strength, conditioning, technique work, etc.

I love D-1 transfers!! What better way to project D-1 talent than to pull out a D-1 game tape.

We have transfers who played for N.C. State, Florida, etc. Check their schedules for their opponents!!
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Seems we are getting another recruit today. Don't know if he is a transfer or what not.

Saw the Eagle has landed GIF on Twitter.
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(01-24-2024 03:09 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Seems we are getting another recruit today. Don't know if he is a transfer or what not.

Saw the Eagle has landed GIF on Twitter.


I assume this is him:

https://x.com/mattfoor44/status/17502314...kDLpgN66uw


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(01-24-2024 03:26 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  
(01-24-2024 03:09 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Seems we are getting another recruit today. Don't know if he is a transfer or what not.

Saw the Eagle has landed GIF on Twitter.


I assume this is him:

https://x.com/mattfoor44/status/17502314...DLpgN696uw


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Yes, but he isn't a transfer. A Mi h.s. player. I added him above in the 2024 verballs.
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O/T sad story of a very good QB seeing the remainder of his college career just evaporate.

Went through thebtransfer portal and then...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...0Kentucky.

This article tells what happened to Texas State. Their starter and backup transfer.

QB Room is barren.

https://www.kvue.com/article/sports/ncaa...6d030c7fc0
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This (2022) was a very good transfer class. 2023, not to much.

https://247sports.com/college/eastern-mi...l/Commits/
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(11-27-2023 05:55 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
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(11-27-2023 12:46 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
(11-27-2023 10:40 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  Starting the tread to track the transfer portal for EMU. The portal opens 12/4.
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire...IIQAvD_BwE
Several interesting prospects from FCS, MSU, and IU.

The coach who maximizes the portal is now going to be the big winner. I suspect at a MAC school, HS connections will pale in comparison to those of NCAA assistants who can identify the next Samson Evans, Jaylen Jackson, Taylor Powell, etc...

You are correct. In 2022 we hit big time with transfers. In 2023 we did not.

Need to replenish the rosters with starters to replace the departures.

I think we had a good 2024. See a big number of contributors.

Big question did we hit on some OLs. I have not been impressed with our transfer OLs in the past.
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We are now one week away from the February signing date.
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