(11-29-2023 04:48 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  How much of this is true?

https://www.ricethresher.org/article/202...ocker-room

I’ve posted before that I’ve talked with a few (four or five) players on that team who corroborated what was written in the article.

Bloomgren isn't going anywhere next year. Too late to make a move due to timing of recruiting and transfer portal.

And Curt Cignetti won't be available to replace him. He just took the HC job at Indiana.

(12-01-2023 09:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Bloomgren isn't going anywhere next year. Too late to make a move due to timing of recruiting and transfer portal.

And Curt Cignetti won't be available to replace him. He just took the HC job at Indiana.

Yeah, for better or for worse, he's ours for at least another season. Maybe we come back and win eight or nine games next season, and everyone is overjoyed.

(12-01-2023 01:12 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 09:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Bloomgren isn't going anywhere next year. Too late to make a move due to timing of recruiting and transfer portal.

And Curt Cignetti won't be available to replace him. He just took the HC job at Indiana.

Yeah, for better or for worse, he's ours for at least another season. Maybe we come back and win eight or nine games next season, and everyone is overjoyed.

And stunned.

(12-01-2023 01:19 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 01:12 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 09:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Bloomgren isn't going anywhere next year. Too late to make a move due to timing of recruiting and transfer portal.

And Curt Cignetti won't be available to replace him. He just took the HC job at Indiana.

Yeah, for better or for worse, he's ours for at least another season. Maybe we come back and win eight or nine games next season, and everyone is overjoyed.

And stunned.

That too

So if we win the bowl game, you're saying that eight wins for a seven-win team with a two point loss to a Top-25 team and a five point loss to one of the other top teams in the conference would stun you?

(12-01-2023 03:52 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  So if we win the bowl game, you're saying that eight wins for a seven-win team with a two point loss to a Top-25 team and a five point loss to one of the other top teams in the conference would stun you?

Why are you so focused on the positives?

This is the team that lost to UConn and allowed 7 straight points at one point to TSU. (Not to mention 35 straight to UH and 37 straight to UT).
You really need to ignore any positive result when making pessimistic predictions.

(12-01-2023 03:52 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  So if we win the bowl game, you're saying that eight wins for a seven-win team with a two point loss to a Top-25 team and a five point loss to one of the other top teams in the conference would stun you?

Sure. I'd be stunned if we won eight games in the regular season. Pleasantly stunned. Come on with it. I'm ready.

Twelve.

(12-01-2023 09:11 PM)billstudabaker Wrote:  Twelve.

That's the spirit! Points

(12-01-2023 09:11 PM)billstudabaker Wrote:  Twelve.

Over how many years?

(12-01-2023 04:22 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 03:52 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  So if we win the bowl game, you're saying that eight wins for a seven-win team with a two point loss to a Top-25 team and a five point loss to one of the other top teams in the conference would stun you?

Why are you so focused on the positives?
This is the team that lost to UConn and allowed 7 straight points at one point to TSU. (Not to mention 35 straight to UH and 37 straight to UT).
You really need to ignore any positive result when making pessimistic predictions.

I have to say that this team has significantly exceeded my expectations. Bloomgren, his staff, the players deserve sincere kudos for that. I think the reason was that in the sixth year of import-a-quarterback, Rice finally got a good one.

Which provokes the obvious question of whether 2024 will be better, worse, or the same. I don’t expect another JT off history, and thus think 2024 will be worse. If it is worse I think Bloomgren’s days have to be done.

Bailiff peaked at 10 wins but could not sustain. If Bloomgren peaks at 6, good bye.

(12-06-2023 01:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 04:22 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 03:52 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  So if we win the bowl game, you're saying that eight wins for a seven-win team with a two point loss to a Top-25 team and a five point loss to one of the other top teams in the conference would stun you?

Why are you so focused on the positives?
This is the team that lost to UConn and allowed 7 straight points at one point to TSU. (Not to mention 35 straight to UH and 37 straight to UT).
You really need to ignore any positive result when making pessimistic predictions.

I have to say that this team has significantly exceeded my expectations. Bloomgren, his staff, the players deserve sincere kudos for that. I think the reason was that in the sixth year of import-a-quarterback, Rice finally got a good one.

Which provokes the obvious question of whether 2024 will be better, worse, or the same. I don’t expect another JT off history, and thus think 2024 will be worse. If it is worse I think Bloomgren’s days have to be done.

Bailiff peaked at 10 wins but could not sustain. If Bloomgren peaks at 6, good bye.

This team actually underperformed given the talent on offense, an above average defense by Rice standards, and the Charmin soft schedule. Given how we played against SMU and Tulane, we should have beaten USF and UConn. We should be 8-4 and favored against Texas State. That's my take anyway.

I'll take the six wins and the legit bowl game, and give Bloomgren a pass for one last year. If we're blown out by Texas State, I reserve the right to 'negative' again. As unlikely as it may be, perhaps TM is waiting to see how we perform before making a decision on the coach. A loss would be disappointing. Texas State isn't better than SMU or Tulane, by a long shot. This is a game that we should win.

(12-07-2023 02:26 PM)Ourland Wrote:  I'll take the six wins and the legit bowl game, and give Bloomgren a pass for one last year. If we're blown out by Texas State, I reserve the right to 'negative' again. As unlikely as it may be, perhaps TM is waiting to see how we perform before making a decision on the coach. A loss would be disappointing. Texas State isn't better than SMU or Tulane, by a long shot. This is a game that we should win.

I think there is very little question that it is too late to make a move this year, so Bloomgren is back for 2024. A change now could very badly screw up recruiting and the transfer portal.

(12-07-2023 05:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-07-2023 02:26 PM)Ourland Wrote:  I'll take the six wins and the legit bowl game, and give Bloomgren a pass for one last year. If we're blown out by Texas State, I reserve the right to 'negative' again. As unlikely as it may be, perhaps TM is waiting to see how we perform before making a decision on the coach. A loss would be disappointing. Texas State isn't better than SMU or Tulane, by a long shot. This is a game that we should win.

I think there is very little question that it is too late to make a move this year, so Bloomgren is back for 2024. A change now could very badly screw up recruiting and the transfer portal.

Agree that it's very likely he's coming back, but if not, at least we'd be ahead of the curve going into next recruiting season. It's never too late to make a change, if change is really what's needed.

Unless we get demolished in Dallas, I'm comfortable with another year. Maybe he has finally learned how to head coach. LOL. It took long enough.

Hey Numbers I really value your contributions here. You're a reliable and consistent member. Points

(12-07-2023 05:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-07-2023 02:26 PM)Ourland Wrote:  I'll take the six wins and the legit bowl game, and give Bloomgren a pass for one last year. If we're blown out by Texas State, I reserve the right to 'negative' again. As unlikely as it may be, perhaps TM is waiting to see how we perform before making a decision on the coach. A loss would be disappointing. Texas State isn't better than SMU or Tulane, by a long shot. This is a game that we should win.

I think there is very little question that it is too late to make a move this year, so Bloomgren is back for 2024. A change now could very badly screw up recruiting and the transfer portal.

I'm sure it could always be worse and all, but our recruiting class is currently sitting at #118 and from what I recall we haven't gotten any commitments from the portal yet
https://247sports.com/college/rice/Seaso...l/Commits/

I assume that any new coach would come with some portal guys, and at this point it's an important criterion for being hired in the first place

(12-06-2023 01:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Bailiff peaked at 10 wins but could not sustain.

Twice. Both the peaking and the not sustaining.

So if the Owls get to 7 losses at some point during the 2024 season, does Tommy pull the trigger?

I’d say he should, immediately, at that point. 7 losses says the Owls peaked in 2023 at 0.500 and that isn’t nearly good enough in year 7. Heck, it wasn’t nearly good enough in year 6.

(12-07-2023 09:07 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  So if the Owls get to 7 losses at some point during the 2024 season, does Tommy pull the trigger?

I’d say he should, immediately, at that point. 7 losses says the Owls peaked in 2023 at 0.500 and that isn’t nearly good enough in year 7. Heck, it wasn’t nearly good enough in year 6.

If we have buyout money in hand, then he's toast at loss #7. If not, he finishes out whatever contract he signs. Rice donors are nowhere to be found in these matters, and that hurts us.

(12-07-2023 08:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-06-2023 01:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Bailiff peaked at 10 wins but could not sustain.

Twice. Both the peaking and the not sustaining.

The Twin Peaks were nice…






…not bad for a bunch of Hooters