(11-22-2023 01:08 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 12:56 AM)bullet Wrote:  I just see a bunch of really insecure Memphis fans. Sure you are proud that you will have a first class controlled facility. But its NOT on campus no matter how much you spin it. You consider honesty trolling. That's a sign of insecurity. Being noticed is a positive thing. If you didn't want anyone but Memphis fans, you would have put it on the Memphis board.

What's insecure is coming into another program's thread simply to troll. Notice that we haven't had any problems with any other posters who aren't Memphis fans? Fact is, you've provided absolutely zero useful contributions to this thread, and your opinions regarding walking distance are about as off-base as they come. So kindly take your clown show somewhere else, where people might actually care, bandwagon fan.

Texas, UK, UGA?

Guess you've never ventured much outside of Memphis and don't understand that people are mobile. If you've been on this board a while you might have seen me mention that I'm a Texas alum, married to a 3rd generation Georgia Bulldawg and grew up in Lexington and (to the extent I still follow MLB and NFL) am still a Reds and Bengals fan in addition to UK where my Mother worked and a sister went to school. And I don't really have a problem with T-shirt fans. They comprise a very big % of the major schools' fan bases. Its effectively what every pro sports fan is (except Green Bay where they might actually own a share of the franchise).

(11-22-2023 08:55 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 12:13 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 11:32 PM)tigergatorcyclone Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 09:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 08:42 PM)tigergatorcyclone Wrote:  Memphis: 2.2 miles
S Carolina: 1.83 miles
Kentucky: 1.1 miles
Iowa State: 1.01 miles
Illinois: .83 miles
FSU: .82 miles
VTech: .71 miles
LSU: .53 miles
Auburn: .47 miles
UF: .36 miles

Not sure what you are trying to measure, but Florida and Auburn's stadiums are right in the center of campus. LSU, FSU, UK and VT are adjacent. I've been to all those places. I haven't been on the other campuses.

From 50 yard line to the admin building of each campus. Your point, that they are adjacent, make the point. No point in us turning down $220 million to hope to build a stadium one or two miles closer to the center of campus…

Don't you find it cute that a P5 fan boy, of three different bandwagon programs no less, feels it's necessary to come here to troll?

That is an unfair shot against bullet. I've read this board since about 2011 and he does not troll. He is fair and consistent with his points in all threads/topics (though he can be a bit crusty at times), and I have no reason to believe he is not a sincere fan of the three schools he lists. So what if all three are in power leagues. I root for multiple schools, too, some in power leagues and others that are not. Many folks on this board have multiple allegiances.

The Liberty Bowl is not located on the UofM campus. It's not a big deal but it's important to note this (and particularly for those posters who don't know the city of Memphis and the UofM campus and are interested in the dynamic between "stadium and campus"). It's not a hugely negative situation. But it's worth noting.

I talked (via phone) about the Liberty Bowl funding matter for about 30 minutes last night with my 92-year-old father. He attended what was then Memphis State College in the 1950s and served as an athletics trainers with the Tigers athletics programs. He LOVES his Tigers. My father and I are excited about the Liberty Bowl upgrades.

You seem to be a strong and sincered Tiger fan (I attended my first Memphis game in the Liberty Bowl in the late 1960s; vs. Houston and it was cold) so I am not trying to be negative toward you. You and I cheer for the Tigers. But I simply feel your take on bullet is unfair.

No hard feelings.

Just to 2nd this, I butt heads all the time with bullet, and our schools are hated rivals, but do not think he's a troll at all. He forms opinions and argues aggressively in support of them, perhaps a bit too aggressively sometimes, but they're honest opinions nonetheless. You've seen me disagree with him several times in this thread for that matter. But his opinion is not without merit, even if it is wrong in this particular case.

(11-24-2023 11:23 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 01:08 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 12:56 AM)bullet Wrote:  I just see a bunch of really insecure Memphis fans. Sure you are proud that you will have a first class controlled facility. But its NOT on campus no matter how much you spin it. You consider honesty trolling. That's a sign of insecurity. Being noticed is a positive thing. If you didn't want anyone but Memphis fans, you would have put it on the Memphis board.

What's insecure is coming into another program's thread simply to troll. Notice that we haven't had any problems with any other posters who aren't Memphis fans? Fact is, you've provided absolutely zero useful contributions to this thread, and your opinions regarding walking distance are about as off-base as they come. So kindly take your clown show somewhere else, where people might actually care, bandwagon fan.

Texas, UK, UGA?

Guess you've never ventured much outside of Memphis and don't understand that people are mobile. If you've been on this board a while you might have seen me mention that I'm a Texas alum, married to a 3rd generation Georgia Bulldawg and grew up in Lexington and (to the extent I still follow MLB and NFL) am still a Reds and Bengals fan in addition to UK where my Mother worked and a sister went to school. And I don't really have a problem with T-shirt fans. They comprise a very big % of the major schools' fan bases. Its effectively what every pro sports fan is (except Green Bay where they might actually own a share of the franchise).

I wouldn't term most pro sports fans as "t-shirt fans", at least not the ones I know. One of my buddies is a 49er's fan, he trolls the rest of us relentlessly every time they're better than the Cowboys. One of my favorite moments as a fan was watching the niners lose the Super Bowl in heartbreaking fashion a decade ago b/c this buddy was at the game and I knew he had to walk a mile to his hotel with all those Ravens fans rubbing it in the entire way. My dad made me leave the room and miss the game one time when I was 7 years old b/c I was yelling and cussing at the Cowboys for falling behind 28-0 to the hated giants in the first quarter.

We are fans because we form an intense emotional attachment to a team. At many colleges, that attachment comes from attending a bunch of games and talking nonstop about football for 4+ years. With pro teams, that attachment might be forged through 30 years' worth of Sundays in front of the TV screen with 15 buddies and a whole bunch of bud light Miller Light. But the attachment is there regardless. And just like at some colleges, certain pro teams inspire more enthusiasm and fan support than others.

(11-24-2023 11:28 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 08:55 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 12:13 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 11:32 PM)tigergatorcyclone Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 09:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  Not sure what you are trying to measure, but Florida and Auburn's stadiums are right in the center of campus. LSU, FSU, UK and VT are adjacent. I've been to all those places. I haven't been on the other campuses.

From 50 yard line to the admin building of each campus. Your point, that they are adjacent, make the point. No point in us turning down $220 million to hope to build a stadium one or two miles closer to the center of campus…

Don't you find it cute that a P5 fan boy, of three different bandwagon programs no less, feels it's necessary to come here to troll?

That is an unfair shot against bullet. I've read this board since about 2011 and he does not troll. He is fair and consistent with his points in all threads/topics (though he can be a bit crusty at times), and I have no reason to believe he is not a sincere fan of the three schools he lists. So what if all three are in power leagues. I root for multiple schools, too, some in power leagues and others that are not. Many folks on this board have multiple allegiances.

The Liberty Bowl is not located on the UofM campus. It's not a big deal but it's important to note this (and particularly for those posters who don't know the city of Memphis and the UofM campus and are interested in the dynamic between "stadium and campus"). It's not a hugely negative situation. But it's worth noting.

I talked (via phone) about the Liberty Bowl funding matter for about 30 minutes last night with my 92-year-old father. He attended what was then Memphis State College in the 1950s and served as an athletics trainers with the Tigers athletics programs. He LOVES his Tigers. My father and I are excited about the Liberty Bowl upgrades.

You seem to be a strong and sincered Tiger fan (I attended my first Memphis game in the Liberty Bowl in the late 1960s; vs. Houston and it was cold) so I am not trying to be negative toward you. You and I cheer for the Tigers. But I simply feel your take on bullet is unfair.

No hard feelings.

Just to 2nd this, I butt heads all the time with bullet, and our schools are hated rivals, but do not think he's a troll at all. He forms opinions and argues aggressively in support of them, perhaps a bit too aggressively sometimes, but they're honest opinions nonetheless. You've seen me disagree with him several times in this thread for that matter. But his opinion is not without merit, even if it is wrong in this particular case.

You and bullet have definitely "gotten after it" a few times (and I always enjoy your exchanges).

Bullet seems to be sincere and consistent with his posting. And I can relate to him in that he has multiple allegiances.

(11-24-2023 11:39 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Bullet seems to be sincere and consistent with his posting. And I can relate to him in that he has multiple allegiances.

Yes but you trend towards better taste in schools. Ha ha.

(11-23-2023 02:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 01:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  During the last B12 realignment, the one issue Memphis was dinged on was the stadium, and the fact the current UofM president couldnt give guarantees about facilities upgrades because the school didnt own the stadium and it was controlled by the city.

Whether or not people want to say the stadium is OCS or not, despite the fact the school owns the land its on and its literally as close as other OCS's to the main campus dorms is neither here nor there. This is to solve an issue that was holding Memphis back from moving up, and they have found a way to solve that problem.

It's definitely good news for Memphis, and by implication, not good news for other top G5 that are vying with Memphis for the next spot to open in the nB12 and/or the ACC, such as my USF.

It won't be easy to move up for any of us, I think.

Yeah. Stadium upgrades are one step schools are taking to keep and upgrade their position. USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Baylor, Tulane, Louisville, UAB, Akron and Minnesota have all built new OCS stadiums in recent decades, moving from off campus sites. UCLA and Temple have talked about it, but can't politically do it. Pitt is the only school to move the opposite direction. They needed to upgrade their stadium and moved to the Steelers stadium and tore down theirs and used the land for other purposes. UNLV is moving to the new Raiders stadium from a different off campus stadium. Hawaii will eventually get a new stadium, but because of public financing will still be off campus. SDSU built a new stadium and got land around it for future campus expansion when the Chargers moved and abandoned their old facility.

(11-24-2023 11:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 01:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  During the last B12 realignment, the one issue Memphis was dinged on was the stadium, and the fact the current UofM president couldnt give guarantees about facilities upgrades because the school didnt own the stadium and it was controlled by the city.

Whether or not people want to say the stadium is OCS or not, despite the fact the school owns the land its on and its literally as close as other OCS's to the main campus dorms is neither here nor there. This is to solve an issue that was holding Memphis back from moving up, and they have found a way to solve that problem.

It's definitely good news for Memphis, and by implication, not good news for other top G5 that are vying with Memphis for the next spot to open in the nB12 and/or the ACC, such as my USF.

It won't be easy to move up for any of us, I think.

Yeah. Stadium upgrades are one step schools are taking to keep and upgrade their position. USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Baylor, Tulane, Louisville, UAB, Akron and Minnesota have all built new OCS stadiums in recent decades, moving from off campus sites. UCLA and Temple have talked about it, but can't politically do it. Pitt is the only school to move the opposite direction. They needed to upgrade their stadium and moved to the Steelers stadium and tore down theirs and used the land for other purposes. UNLV is moving to the new Raiders stadium from a different OCS. Hawaii will eventually get a new stadium, but because of public financing will still be off campus. SDSU built a new stadium and got land around it for future campus expansion when the Chargers moved and abandoned their old facility.

UNLV makes sense to me. Their campus is within walking distance of the Raiders stadium. It's just two or three miles away. Not on campus, but pretty convenient for what is largely a commuter school.

(11-24-2023 11:42 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 11:39 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Bullet seems to be sincere and consistent with his posting. And I can relate to him in that he has multiple allegiances.

Yes but you trend towards better taste in schools. Ha ha.

(11-24-2023 11:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 11:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 01:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  During the last B12 realignment, the one issue Memphis was dinged on was the stadium, and the fact the current UofM president couldnt give guarantees about facilities upgrades because the school didnt own the stadium and it was controlled by the city.

Whether or not people want to say the stadium is OCS or not, despite the fact the school owns the land its on and its literally as close as other OCS's to the main campus dorms is neither here nor there. This is to solve an issue that was holding Memphis back from moving up, and they have found a way to solve that problem.

It's definitely good news for Memphis, and by implication, not good news for other top G5 that are vying with Memphis for the next spot to open in the nB12 and/or the ACC, such as my USF.

It won't be easy to move up for any of us, I think.

Yeah. Stadium upgrades are one step schools are taking to keep and upgrade their position. USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Baylor, Tulane, Louisville, UAB, Akron and Minnesota have all built new OCS stadiums in recent decades, moving from off campus sites. UCLA and Temple have talked about it, but can't politically do it. Pitt is the only school to move the opposite direction. They needed to upgrade their stadium and moved to the Steelers stadium and tore down theirs and used the land for other purposes. UNLV is moving to the new Raiders stadium from a different OCS. Hawaii will eventually get a new stadium, but because of public financing will still be off campus. SDSU built a new stadium and got land around it for future campus expansion when the Chargers moved and abandoned their old facility.

UNLV makes sense to me. Their campus is within walking distance of the Raiders stadium. It's just two or three miles away. Not on campus, but pretty convenient for what is largely a commuter school.

As I recall, its considerably closer than the old one. Don't think anyone other than UCLA, Temple, UConn and Miami are stuck with stadiums far away. UTSA's main campus is in NW San Antonio, but they also have a downtown campus close to the Alamodome.

Congratulations to the Tigers of Memphis!



Good move by the Powers That Be at FedEx.

(11-24-2023 11:57 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 11:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 11:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 01:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  During the last B12 realignment, the one issue Memphis was dinged on was the stadium, and the fact the current UofM president couldnt give guarantees about facilities upgrades because the school didnt own the stadium and it was controlled by the city.

Whether or not people want to say the stadium is OCS or not, despite the fact the school owns the land its on and its literally as close as other OCS's to the main campus dorms is neither here nor there. This is to solve an issue that was holding Memphis back from moving up, and they have found a way to solve that problem.

It's definitely good news for Memphis, and by implication, not good news for other top G5 that are vying with Memphis for the next spot to open in the nB12 and/or the ACC, such as my USF.

It won't be easy to move up for any of us, I think.

Yeah. Stadium upgrades are one step schools are taking to keep and upgrade their position. USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Baylor, Tulane, Louisville, UAB, Akron and Minnesota have all built new OCS stadiums in recent decades, moving from off campus sites. UCLA and Temple have talked about it, but can't politically do it. Pitt is the only school to move the opposite direction. They needed to upgrade their stadium and moved to the Steelers stadium and tore down theirs and used the land for other purposes. UNLV is moving to the new Raiders stadium from a different OCS. Hawaii will eventually get a new stadium, but because of public financing will still be off campus. SDSU built a new stadium and got land around it for future campus expansion when the Chargers moved and abandoned their old facility.

UNLV makes sense to me. Their campus is within walking distance of the Raiders stadium. It's just two or three miles away. Not on campus, but pretty convenient for what is largely a commuter school.

As I recall, its considerably closer than the old one. Don't think anyone other than UCLA, Temple, UConn and Miami are stuck with stadiums far away. UTSA's main campus is in NW San Antonio, but they also have a downtown campus close to the Alamodome.

Only other school that comes to mind is Arkansas. They still play a game each year at War Memorial in Little Rock.

(11-26-2023 12:36 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  Congratulations to the Tigers of Memphis!



Good move by the Powers That Be at FedEx.

Thanks, G-Nole.

And huge congrats to your FSU club for the win last night (I watched the fourth quarter). I'm happy for Mike Norvell.

(11-24-2023 11:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 01:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  During the last B12 realignment, the one issue Memphis was dinged on was the stadium, and the fact the current UofM president couldnt give guarantees about facilities upgrades because the school didnt own the stadium and it was controlled by the city.

Whether or not people want to say the stadium is OCS or not, despite the fact the school owns the land its on and its literally as close as other OCS's to the main campus dorms is neither here nor there. This is to solve an issue that was holding Memphis back from moving up, and they have found a way to solve that problem.

It's definitely good news for Memphis, and by implication, not good news for other top G5 that are vying with Memphis for the next spot to open in the nB12 and/or the ACC, such as my USF.

It won't be easy to move up for any of us, I think.

Yeah. Stadium upgrades are one step schools are taking to keep and upgrade their position. USF, UCF, Houston, SMU, Baylor, Tulane, Louisville, UAB, Akron and Minnesota have all built new OCS stadiums in recent decades, moving from off campus sites. UCLA and Temple have talked about it, but can't politically do it. Pitt is the only school to move the opposite direction. They needed to upgrade their stadium and moved to the Steelers stadium and tore down theirs and used the land for other purposes. UNLV is moving to the new Raiders stadium from a different off campus stadium. Hawaii will eventually get a new stadium, but because of public financing will still be off campus. SDSU built a new stadium and got land around it for future campus expansion when the Chargers moved and abandoned their old facility.

USF still plays at Bucs stadium. They are working towards a stadium but not there yet.

(11-24-2023 11:28 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 08:55 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(11-22-2023 12:13 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 11:32 PM)tigergatorcyclone Wrote:  

(11-21-2023 09:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  Not sure what you are trying to measure, but Florida and Auburn's stadiums are right in the center of campus. LSU, FSU, UK and VT are adjacent. I've been to all those places. I haven't been on the other campuses.

From 50 yard line to the admin building of each campus. Your point, that they are adjacent, make the point. No point in us turning down $220 million to hope to build a stadium one or two miles closer to the center of campus…

Don't you find it cute that a P5 fan boy, of three different bandwagon programs no less, feels it's necessary to come here to troll?

That is an unfair shot against bullet. I've read this board since about 2011 and he does not troll. He is fair and consistent with his points in all threads/topics (though he can be a bit crusty at times), and I have no reason to believe he is not a sincere fan of the three schools he lists. So what if all three are in power leagues. I root for multiple schools, too, some in power leagues and others that are not. Many folks on this board have multiple allegiances.

The Liberty Bowl is not located on the UofM campus. It's not a big deal but it's important to note this (and particularly for those posters who don't know the city of Memphis and the UofM campus and are interested in the dynamic between "stadium and campus"). It's not a hugely negative situation. But it's worth noting.

I talked (via phone) about the Liberty Bowl funding matter for about 30 minutes last night with my 92-year-old father. He attended what was then Memphis State College in the 1950s and served as an athletics trainers with the Tigers athletics programs. He LOVES his Tigers. My father and I are excited about the Liberty Bowl upgrades.

You seem to be a strong and sincered Tiger fan (I attended my first Memphis game in the Liberty Bowl in the late 1960s; vs. Houston and it was cold) so I am not trying to be negative toward you. You and I cheer for the Tigers. But I simply feel your take on bullet is unfair.

No hard feelings.

Just to 2nd this, I butt heads all the time with bullet, and our schools are hated rivals, but do not think he's a troll at all. He forms opinions and argues aggressively in support of them, perhaps a bit too aggressively sometimes, but they're honest opinions nonetheless. You've seen me disagree with him several times in this thread for that matter. But his opinion is not without merit, even if it is wrong in this particular case.

I never butt heads with bullet, but we both have been around long enough on these boards that I heartily endorse the good vibes about him.