(11-18-2023 05:50 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 05:03 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 04:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I have taken dumps that look better than the Pirate offense today.

The implosion on offense for the Pirates this year is cause for a lot of coaches on our staff to be wondering if they still have a job come post-game against Tulsa.

Speaking of Tulsa, how are you feeling about that one?

IMO, it's all about ECU's mental state....and if coaching rumors swell this week.

We got a shot, but have to keep our heads in it.

I like your odds in that one.

(11-18-2023 03:08 PM)Purple n Gold Wrote:  Good luck to Navy, hopefully y'all end up going bowling. Time for me to go out for some much needed drinks.

Thanks!

I always like to come say thanks when other fans say "good game" and such. Not so many opportunities here

If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

I’m sure that 1 Tulane fan will be back to tell us how stupid it would be to fire Houston.

(11-18-2023 04:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  And ESPECIALLY pirates...

Like "OMG, we lost to Navy!!!
Dude, you ALWAYS lose to Navy
Why do you act surprised

Respectfully, kiss my arse. Who is acting “surprised” we lost? We suck all the di*k and we know it.

(11-18-2023 05:41 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

Quote:It was the first time ECU was shut out in 323 games, going back 26 years to Oct. 4, 1997 at Syracuse.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/re.../401531417

Please don't take this as bragging. It definitely isn't.

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

True.

I think they have what it takes to return to their past levels of success. But wow, they are just horrible right now.

(11-18-2023 04:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  And ESPECIALLY pirates...

Like "OMG, we lost to Navy!!!
Dude, you ALWAYS lose to Navy
Why do you act surprised

How drunk were you?? Nobody said that anywhere

(11-18-2023 08:38 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 04:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  And ESPECIALLY pirates...

Like "OMG, we lost to Navy!!!
Dude, you ALWAYS lose to Navy
Why do you act surprised

Respectfully, kiss my arse. Who is acting “surprised” we lost? We suck all the di*k and we know it.

Seriously, what a weird post.

(11-18-2023 04:54 PM)Vonz90 Wrote:  Navy offense was made a lot of mistakes today. Credit to the ECU defense as they were disruptive and overall did not break. Still, we shot ourselves in the foot almost ever time we got on a roll.

I also think we kept the offense rather vanilla on purpose. Think the plan was it would be a low scoring game and they just wanted to make sure the offense did not dig us a hole somehow. I guess it worked but I suspect we will need a lot more offense next week.

Anyway good game ECU - good luck next week.

In this game, ECU threw two interceptions straight to DBs in triple coverage. Fumbled in the backfield. And the punter dropped the ball ten yards behind the LOS for no reason. Yes Navy has a terrible quarterback, but ECU’s is worse. You must understand that Navy would have scored 7 points if ECU had a punter with the grip strength of an 8 year old. “Maybe there was a little of us good”

Navy threw the football double digit times. That’s not a vanilla navy offense. ECU has a damn good defense and Navy couldn’t move it against them. ECU’s problem is they have the worst division 1 offense the 21st century has seen.

But go ahead and get offended your 5-5 team can’t move the ball against poor old ECU.

(11-18-2023 09:54 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

True.

I think they have what it takes to return to their past levels of success. But wow, they are just horrible right now.

And Tulane would have lost to them if ECU had an high school level offense. Wow.

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

I’m waiting for the day we kick out USF and add FIU. But hey congrats on the Sam Hartman bowl win for your real team.

(11-19-2023 09:10 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 04:54 PM)Vonz90 Wrote:  Navy offense was made a lot of mistakes today. Credit to the ECU defense as they were disruptive and overall did not break. Still, we shot ourselves in the foot almost ever time we got on a roll.

I also think we kept the offense rather vanilla on purpose. Think the plan was it would be a low scoring game and they just wanted to make sure the offense did not dig us a hole somehow. I guess it worked but I suspect we will need a lot more offense next week.

Anyway good game ECU - good luck next week.

In this game, ECU threw two interceptions straight to DBs in triple coverage. Fumbled in the backfield. And the punter dropped the ball ten yards behind the LOS for no reason. Yes Navy has a terrible quarterback, but ECU’s is worse. You must understand that Navy would have scored 7 points if ECU had a punter with the grip strength of an 8 year old. “Maybe there was a little of us good”

Navy threw the football double digit times. That’s not a vanilla navy offense. ECU has a damn good defense and Navy couldn’t move it against them. ECU’s problem is they have the worst division 1 offense the 21st century has seen.

But go ahead and get offended your 5-5 team can’t move the ball against poor old ECU.

We have thrown double digits like 9 games in a row. That is just our offense under the new OC. In any case, I was talking more about the run approach, we threw a lot of formations and shifts, but we were doing pretty vanilla on the actual play selections. That could have been approach, or what they thought ECU was giving us or maybe didn't trust our QB/blocking (or deeper analysis will suggest I missed some stuff) - IDK.

(11-19-2023 09:10 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 04:54 PM)Vonz90 Wrote:  Navy offense was made a lot of mistakes today. Credit to the ECU defense as they were disruptive and overall did not break. Still, we shot ourselves in the foot almost ever time we got on a roll.

I also think we kept the offense rather vanilla on purpose. Think the plan was it would be a low scoring game and they just wanted to make sure the offense did not dig us a hole somehow. I guess it worked but I suspect we will need a lot more offense next week.

Anyway good game ECU - good luck next week.

In this game, ECU threw two interceptions straight to DBs in triple coverage. Fumbled in the backfield. And the punter dropped the ball ten yards behind the LOS for no reason. Yes Navy has a terrible quarterback, but ECU’s is worse. You must understand that Navy would have scored 7 points if ECU had a punter with the grip strength of an 8 year old. “Maybe there was a little of us good”

Navy threw the football double digit times. That’s not a vanilla navy offense. ECU has a damn good defense and Navy couldn’t move it against them. ECU’s problem is they have the worst division 1 offense the 21st century has seen.

But go ahead and get offended your 5-5 team can’t move the ball against poor old ECU.

Actually, Navy has averaged 14.5 pass attempts per game.
Only three games of our ten had fewer pass attempts than this one. Those 3 were Notre Dame (because there was not much point in calling pass plays when their D-Line was living in the offensive backfield) and the wins against UNT and UAB in which we averaged 5.7 yards per rush.

Navy's rushing in this game was tied for the second most attempts per game this year. The ypc was only 3.5 but still better than three other games. The rushing yardage was the sixth best of our ten games.

Everyone knew that this was a game between two teams with stout defenses and struggling offenses. That's why the over/under was so low.

You don't need to take it from me or Vonz.

Quote:Coach Newberry in the post-game presser:

Hats off to East Carolina. We knew it was going to be a dogfight. Probably the best defense we've seen all year...We knew it was going to be arduous today and it was...Wasn't pretty but it was a win.

Navy mistakes? Yes, Coach Newberry called out the 4 penalties on first down to start off 1st and 15. Two fumbles, both lost. One was pulling the ball out late on an option - untouched and unforced.

Everything Vonz said makes perfect sense.

Yes the best defense Navy has seen all year that is correct. That is why Navy only scored ten points with 3 of them coming after receiving the ball on the ECU 20 when the ECU punter dropped the ball untouched. Not because they kept their offense vanilla in an effort to not score.

(11-19-2023 11:52 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Yes the best defense Navy has seen all year that is correct. That is why Navy only scored ten points with 3 of them coming after receiving the ball on the ECU 20 when the ECU punter dropped the ball untouched. Not because they kept their offense vanilla in an effort to not score.

Huh?
What are you talking about?

It isn't "an effort to not score."
It is conservative playcalling to avoid giving up points to the defense or other costly mistakes in a game that was expected to be low-scoring.

That series between fumble recovery and FG is actually a good example of the "vanilla" point: basically three conservative runs, centering the ball up because the second score was critical and a FG accomplished that.
Prior to that fumble we were also winning the field position exchange...Ray Guy candidate punter in a defensive battle also contributes to conservative play calling.

None of which takes away from ECU playing well defensively. The stuff that worked in our offensive explosion last week (it's all relative isn't it) didn't work against ECU's better defense.

(11-19-2023 09:14 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:54 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

True.

I think they have what it takes to return to their past levels of success. But wow, they are just horrible right now.

And Tulane would have lost to them if ECU had an high school level offense. Wow.

Whatever you tell yourself it it makes you feel better. Tulane has done what they need to do to win. They would have scored more if they needed to. They kneeled the ball inside ECU's 5 to end the game.

*If Pratt plays vs Ole Miss then we likely don't give up a strip sack for a TD from our less mobile QB2 and Pratt is like better for at least one more TD than QB2. That's a 14 point swing and we win. We are 11-0 at this point in the top 10. Its fun to play the what if game right.

Ill trade you a your win vs Tulane for a Tulane win vs Ole Miss; that seems fair in what if world right.

As far as ECU goes. I generallly agree If Kirkpatrick is not fired by EOB 11/27 then Houston should be fired by EOB 11/28.

(11-19-2023 12:24 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 09:14 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:54 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

True.

I think they have what it takes to return to their past levels of success. But wow, they are just horrible right now.

And Tulane would have lost to them if ECU had an high school level offense. Wow.

Whatever you tell yourself it it makes you feel better. Tulane has done what they need to do to win. They would have scored more if they needed to. They kneeled the ball inside ECU's 5 to end the game.

*If Pratt plays vs Ole Miss then we likely don't give up a strip sack for a TD from our less mobile QB2 and Pratt is like better for at least one more TD than QB2. That's a 14 point swing and we win. We are 11-0 at this point in the top 10. Its fun to play the what if game right.

Ill trade you a your win vs Tulane for a Tulane win vs Ole Miss; that seems fair in what if world right.

As far as ECU goes. I generallly agree If Kirkpatrick is not fired by EOB 11/27 then Houston should be fired by EOB 11/28.

Kirkpatrick is gone.

Are you trying to say Tulane was trying not to score like Navy

*I can play too. If Keaton Mitchell played in New Orleans Tulane wouldn’t have gone to the cotton bowl.

(11-19-2023 12:26 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 12:24 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 09:14 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:54 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 08:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If ECU football had been like this 11 years ago they wouldn't have gotten an AAC invite.

They are basically a middling to bad CUSA program these days.

True.

I think they have what it takes to return to their past levels of success. But wow, they are just horrible right now.

And Tulane would have lost to them if ECU had an high school level offense. Wow.

Whatever you tell yourself it it makes you feel better. Tulane has done what they need to do to win. They would have scored more if they needed to. They kneeled the ball inside ECU's 5 to end the game.

*If Pratt plays vs Ole Miss then we likely don't give up a strip sack for a TD from our less mobile QB2 and Pratt is like better for at least one more TD than QB2. That's a 14 point swing and we win. We are 11-0 at this point in the top 10. Its fun to play the what if game right.

Ill trade you a your win vs Tulane for a Tulane win vs Ole Miss; that seems fair in what if world right.

As far as ECU goes. I generallly agree If Kirkpatrick is not fired by EOB 11/27 then Houston should be fired by EOB 11/28.

Kirkpatrick is gone.

Are you trying to say Tulane was trying not to score like Navy

*I can play too. If Keaton Mitchell played in New Orleans Tulane wouldn’t have gone to the cotton bowl.

Didn't see DK had agreed to leave. It happened minutes ago.,...

Anyway since Fritz got to Tulane we have beaten yall 5 of 6 times. You have given the "what ifs" for 2023 and 2022 your missing 2020, 2018, and 2017.

(11-19-2023 12:37 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  Didn't see DK had agreed to leave. It happened minutes ago.,...

Hate to see anyone lose their job, but this was a necessary move and bodes well for next season.