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(11-07-2023 04:28 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:11 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 03:48 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 03:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:51 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Vasquez is supposed to be a point. He was awful last night though.

AK hasn’t recruited a real point guard since he’s been here. We don’t have one on the roster this year unless u count satterfirled or Vasquez who are really more combo guards.

It’s not Gaines hate - it’s a well established pattern of what he does. He basically caused the 6-0 run all by himself last night that sealed our fate.

He lost the ball in OT too. He’s undisciplined and turnover prone (2:4 last night) and does not shoot well - 33% last night. He is who he is though. We have to ride with him but letting him go one on one or one on two for our “offense” is an unmitigated disaster though. It was pretty easy to see last night.

toney is the one who started who really started that run because he fouled their best 3 point shooter but eric definitely contributed when he turned it over on the press that led to a 3 for them blaming the entire run on him comes off as hate to me and is objectively not true there was a multitude of factors that led to that run happening and no he didn't turn it over in overtime go back and watch, its too early to say if he's still undisciplined or not, the halfcourt 0 was pretty terrible in general so when guys mesh more and figure out their spots I can get a better perspective on it him running into 3 guys was pretty much everyone last night did because we couldn't hit perimeter shots , I'm not going to change how yall feel about eric idrc to, just speak objectively about him like defensively he was everywhere and fantastic he was much more engaged than he was last year and I haven't heard a peep about it, regardless of how you feel about he played last night dont use one game to say this who he will based on what he did last year its dumb

Wrong. 4:22 in OT: "Eric Gaines Turnover."

" its too early to say if he's still undisciplined or not" - have you not watched Eric Gaines in the THREE previous D1 seasons that he has played major minutes? He is one of the most undisciplined players I've ever seen. To say he is not undisciplined is being deliberately obtuse, as Andy Dufresne would say. And Like 23 said, when he takes it in the paint and jacks up a terrible shot - no, it's not technically a turnover, but for all intents and purposes, it is most definitely a turnover. He took 18 shots to score 16 points last night - how many of those shots were really turnovers disguised as missed shots in the box score?

I went back and I was wrong he did turn it over in the ot but I change nothing about my stance and my point isn't to say he isn't undisciplined offensively anymore its more speaking to the point going off a one game sample size is dumb despite what he did at lsu or here in a different role last year and yes I watched I'm all of last year and at lsu but you act like guys can't improve their deficiencies "16 Points on 18 shots" I'm sorry everyone won't be efficient when you're the most schemed player on the team does need to shoot better yes obviously and I spoke about his poor finishing through contact and some of those drives should have been pull up middys or pass outs but that's just processing which needs to improve not a fan of definite statements about players regardless of track record.

Was he a center last year? He is playing the exact same role as last year LOL - maybe more minutes, sure, but he is in the exact same role he was last year. He IS an undisciplined player. He's BEEN undisciplined. And if last night is any indication, as the last THREE years have been, he will STAY undisciplined. Why is it that hard for you to see?

no he went from starting the year as the primary point (pg1) to getting demoted to being a secondary point essentially being our 2 guard his role absolutely fluctuated throughout the year until he eventually got regulated as the 6th man, the minutes he played are irrelevant in totality he won't be playing any off ball this year since we have no other pg unless Satterfield completely shocks us which would be awesome btw. I'm not naive to the fact that this could be just who eric is. there have been so many players to come through here that have been the same player every year and there were some that improved dramatically I believe eric can be one who can improve. I haven't sold my eric stock, and I don't care what stats he puts up I want to see how his processing improves throughout the year, a part of that processing is knowing when to pull up for a middy or a floater if there's 2 people waiting in the paint for him I'm giving him more than one game to see if this who he will be while he's here, like it or not we need him to be really good for us as the lead guard we had a lot more room for error last year with all our experience and talent , his responsibility this year as opposed to last year is night and day

(11-07-2023 01:49 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 12:54 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  In my head canon, Aaron Johnson gives an impassioned pregame speech reminding the team that in his last game as a Blazer, those Clemson Mf'rs broke his leg! The team comes out on fire and ready to kick some ass and we play like gangbusters.

In the real world, an long, athletic team that can shoot will almost always beat a long, athletic team that cant shoot. Their starting front court is 6'8, 6'10, and 6'10, and all three of them can probably shoot better than anyone we have on the roster, and the 6'8 guy is PJ Hall who is basically Chris Cokley with a three point shot.

That was also our last at-large bid...

Thank you Mike Davis

We will argue over anything. That said I’m glad we have EG. Looking forward to his continued development.

What I saw Monday looked a lot like the Eric Gaines I've watched since he got here. Talented as hell. Amazingly athletic. Able to slash inside almost at will. Habitually slashes inside and winds up in the air with the ball, no shot, and no one to pass to. Weighs 165 and gets muscled out if he can't get past or spin move. Capable of making an astoundingly good play that dazzles me and then follow it with a boneheaded drive to make a turnover I can see coming when he crosses half court.

We're better with him on the floor most times, but he is the most frustrating player I have ever pulled for.

(11-08-2023 09:29 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  What I saw Monday looked a lot like the Eric Gaines I've watched since he got here. Talented as hell. Amazingly athletic. Able to slash inside almost at will. Habitually slashes inside and winds up in the air with the ball, no shot, and no one to pass to. Weighs 165 and gets muscled out if he can't get past or spin move. Capable of making an astoundingly good play that dazzles me and then follow it with a boneheaded drive to make a turnover I can see coming when he crosses half court.

We're better with him on the floor most times, but he is the most frustrating player I have ever pulled for.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. There’s just some people who put blinders on with him and insist he’s better than what he is. He is what he is. Undisciplined and loose as hell with the ball. Way too skinny to finish through contact or through people in the paint. Inefficient. Capable of wowing you and occasionally playing really smart controlled ball out of nowhere (last year against Fau at home for example).

(11-07-2023 03:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:51 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 01:27 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I can live with that from Ortiz. Seems he has better control of his dribble as well. Don’t know how much longer we need to run Gaines at the point until we realize we don’t gain anything from it, that we couldn’t get with him being a 6th man.

Clemson had two other forwards finish with 16 and 12 points. Schieffelin and Godfrey

he's by far our best advantage creator/playmaker lmao yall need to get over this weird eric hate, does he do **** that makes you pull your hair out yes but its about his processing more than anything, I watched butta be our point last night in some stretches and he made the offense so freaking stagnant because he's nowhere the playmaker eric is, we legit don't have another pg on this roster besides Satterfield who I think has high upside but he's not even healthy and we have no idea how he would do in that role his first year. I thought eric was pretty solid last night 2 out of the 4 turnovers came against Leons(#14) who's a great defender and he guarded him well on those plays eric adjusted well to him after. The only glaring issue I see with eric that's still a problem is finishing, for someone as athletic as he is he really struggles finishing through contact, he just doesn't have a very strong base which makes it easy to knock him off his spot and some of the drives were forced because we had no shooting around him but he needs to flesh this part of his game out and he has the capability to do so imo

Vasquez is supposed to be a point. He was awful last night though.

AK hasn’t recruited a real point guard since he’s been here. We don’t have one on the roster this year unless u count satterfirled or Vasquez who are really more combo guards.

It’s not Gaines hate - it’s a well established pattern of what he does. He basically caused the 6-0 run all by himself last night that sealed our fate.

He lost the ball in OT too. He’s undisciplined and turnover prone (2:4 last night) and does not shoot well - 33% last night. He is who he is though. We have to ride with him but letting him go one on one or one on two for our “offense” is an unmitigated disaster though. It was pretty easy to see last night.

toney is the one who started who really started that run because he fouled their best 3 point shooter but eric definitely contributed when he turned it over on the press that led to a 3 for them blaming the entire run on him comes off as hate to me and is objectively not true there was a multitude of factors that led to that run happening and no he didn't turn it over in overtime go back and watch, its too early to say if he's still undisciplined or not, the halfcourt 0 was pretty terrible in general so when guys mesh more and figure out their spots I can get a better perspective on it him running into 3 guys was pretty much everyone last night did because we couldn't hit perimeter shots , I'm not going to change how yall feel about eric idrc to, just speak objectively about him like defensively he was everywhere and fantastic he was much more engaged than he was last year and I haven't heard a peep about it, regardless of how you feel about he played last night dont use one game to say this who he will based on what he did last year its dumb

Agree.

EG is the best facilitator, Butta and Toney played 10 extra minutes that White and Dunning should've got for foul troubles and other reasons. We don't share the ball because all the guards can create a shot. Yax should come off the bench if it makes him comfortable. Team of none shooters almost won the game. Loss is on AK period, the same test comes around he blows its.

(11-09-2023 08:18 AM)Rell Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 03:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:51 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 01:27 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I can live with that from Ortiz. Seems he has better control of his dribble as well. Don’t know how much longer we need to run Gaines at the point until we realize we don’t gain anything from it, that we couldn’t get with him being a 6th man.

Clemson had two other forwards finish with 16 and 12 points. Schieffelin and Godfrey

he's by far our best advantage creator/playmaker lmao yall need to get over this weird eric hate, does he do **** that makes you pull your hair out yes but its about his processing more than anything, I watched butta be our point last night in some stretches and he made the offense so freaking stagnant because he's nowhere the playmaker eric is, we legit don't have another pg on this roster besides Satterfield who I think has high upside but he's not even healthy and we have no idea how he would do in that role his first year. I thought eric was pretty solid last night 2 out of the 4 turnovers came against Leons(#14) who's a great defender and he guarded him well on those plays eric adjusted well to him after. The only glaring issue I see with eric that's still a problem is finishing, for someone as athletic as he is he really struggles finishing through contact, he just doesn't have a very strong base which makes it easy to knock him off his spot and some of the drives were forced because we had no shooting around him but he needs to flesh this part of his game out and he has the capability to do so imo

Vasquez is supposed to be a point. He was awful last night though.

AK hasn’t recruited a real point guard since he’s been here. We don’t have one on the roster this year unless u count satterfirled or Vasquez who are really more combo guards.

It’s not Gaines hate - it’s a well established pattern of what he does. He basically caused the 6-0 run all by himself last night that sealed our fate.

He lost the ball in OT too. He’s undisciplined and turnover prone (2:4 last night) and does not shoot well - 33% last night. He is who he is though. We have to ride with him but letting him go one on one or one on two for our “offense” is an unmitigated disaster though. It was pretty easy to see last night.

toney is the one who started who really started that run because he fouled their best 3 point shooter but eric definitely contributed when he turned it over on the press that led to a 3 for them blaming the entire run on him comes off as hate to me and is objectively not true there was a multitude of factors that led to that run happening and no he didn't turn it over in overtime go back and watch, its too early to say if he's still undisciplined or not, the halfcourt 0 was pretty terrible in general so when guys mesh more and figure out their spots I can get a better perspective on it him running into 3 guys was pretty much everyone last night did because we couldn't hit perimeter shots , I'm not going to change how yall feel about eric idrc to, just speak objectively about him like defensively he was everywhere and fantastic he was much more engaged than he was last year and I haven't heard a peep about it, regardless of how you feel about he played last night dont use one game to say this who he will based on what he did last year its dumb

Agree.

EG is the best facilitator, Butta and Toney played 10 extra minutes that White and Dunning should've got for foul troubles and other reasons. We don't share the ball because all the guards can create a shot. Yax should come off the bench if it makes him comfortable. Team of none shooters almost won the game. Loss is on AK period, the same test comes around he blows its.

One of my biggest gripes about AK is that he's never recruited a real PG since he's been here. Now we are stuck with Gaines, Butta, and Toney trying to run point. I think Vasquez is more of a scoring/combo guard too. None of those guys should probably running point for your team. It's been clearly demonstrated that EG is not a traditional point guard.

Any TV for this game?

(11-09-2023 11:08 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  Any TV for this game?

ESPN+, with the games on Sunday being on ESPN 2.

(11-09-2023 08:35 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 08:18 AM)Rell Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 03:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:51 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 02:29 PM)Nickj345 Wrote:  he's by far our best advantage creator/playmaker lmao yall need to get over this weird eric hate, does he do **** that makes you pull your hair out yes but its about his processing more than anything, I watched butta be our point last night in some stretches and he made the offense so freaking stagnant because he's nowhere the playmaker eric is, we legit don't have another pg on this roster besides Satterfield who I think has high upside but he's not even healthy and we have no idea how he would do in that role his first year. I thought eric was pretty solid last night 2 out of the 4 turnovers came against Leons(#14) who's a great defender and he guarded him well on those plays eric adjusted well to him after. The only glaring issue I see with eric that's still a problem is finishing, for someone as athletic as he is he really struggles finishing through contact, he just doesn't have a very strong base which makes it easy to knock him off his spot and some of the drives were forced because we had no shooting around him but he needs to flesh this part of his game out and he has the capability to do so imo

Vasquez is supposed to be a point. He was awful last night though.

AK hasn’t recruited a real point guard since he’s been here. We don’t have one on the roster this year unless u count satterfirled or Vasquez who are really more combo guards.

It’s not Gaines hate - it’s a well established pattern of what he does. He basically caused the 6-0 run all by himself last night that sealed our fate.

He lost the ball in OT too. He’s undisciplined and turnover prone (2:4 last night) and does not shoot well - 33% last night. He is who he is though. We have to ride with him but letting him go one on one or one on two for our “offense” is an unmitigated disaster though. It was pretty easy to see last night.

toney is the one who started who really started that run because he fouled their best 3 point shooter but eric definitely contributed when he turned it over on the press that led to a 3 for them blaming the entire run on him comes off as hate to me and is objectively not true there was a multitude of factors that led to that run happening and no he didn't turn it over in overtime go back and watch, its too early to say if he's still undisciplined or not, the halfcourt 0 was pretty terrible in general so when guys mesh more and figure out their spots I can get a better perspective on it him running into 3 guys was pretty much everyone last night did because we couldn't hit perimeter shots , I'm not going to change how yall feel about eric idrc to, just speak objectively about him like defensively he was everywhere and fantastic he was much more engaged than he was last year and I haven't heard a peep about it, regardless of how you feel about he played last night dont use one game to say this who he will based on what he did last year its dumb

Agree.

EG is the best facilitator, Butta and Toney played 10 extra minutes that White and Dunning should've got for foul troubles and other reasons. We don't share the ball because all the guards can create a shot. Yax should come off the bench if it makes him comfortable. Team of none shooters almost won the game. Loss is on AK period, the same test comes around he blows its.

One of my biggest gripes about AK is that he's never recruited a real PG since he's been here. Now we are stuck with Gaines, Butta, and Toney trying to run point. I think Vasquez is more of a scoring/combo guard too. None of those guys should probably running point for your team. It's been clearly demonstrated that EG is not a traditional point guard.

He just signed him two different juco areas 5 assist a game.

https://twitter.com/MagicCityImpact/stat...1829595447

6 point underdogs

(11-09-2023 10:10 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  https://twitter.com/MagicCityImpact/stat...1829595447

Oh look. A point guard.....

I have questions about him as a true pg. It looks like he may be another shoot first pg and his assist to turnover ratio is 1.4 to 1. He fits the mold of guards we recruit to me.

(11-10-2023 10:46 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:10 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  https://twitter.com/MagicCityImpact/stat...1829595447

Oh look. A point guard.....

Who are the point guards currently on the roster and who has AK brought on that is a real point guard to this point?

We've done very well without a real point guard, but it's definitely a real thing. It's part of the reason his teams struggle a lot in the half court.

Butta, Toney, Vasquez, Gaines - NOT point guards

Jelly - not a point guard

Ertel, Quan, Jamal Johnson, Locure - all not really point guards. the only one you might make an argue for was Locure, and he was relegated to the end of the bench.

(11-10-2023 11:20 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I have questions about him as a true pg. It looks like he may be another shoot first pg and his assist to turnover ratio is 1.4 to 1. He fits the mold of guards we recruit to me.

And yes this guy appears to be much more of a SG/combo guard than a PG.

That isn't a bad thing, and I am not bad mouthing the guy - he looks like a talented player, but proves my point that AK has not brought in point guards to this point in time.

Preview

Y’all hear anything on Coleman?
https://x.com/upgradedstu/status/1723055...pR1eVTcJZA

Well that’s certainly not good if true. He looked really good to me. I was excited about him from the jump.

He didn’t seem to get injured in the game against Bradley?? Anybody know anything?

I haven’t read the long debate but thought I would add my thoughts after Bradley game. Essentially, if I’m scouting UAB I go to a 2-3 defense and pack the lane forcing the Blazers to prove they can shoot over the top. Or I double Davis which has the same effect.