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More of the same by BOT?
So is this business as usual for the BOT to stock the BOT with those who are only for UAT or is this guy a fair minded that cares for the 3 universities that make up the system? I was surprised to see that the BOT is made up of members from each of the state districts yet nary a one of those is UAB or UAH minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/university-al...16176.html
11-07-2023 09:37 AM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
9.9999998% guaranteed "more of the same."

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11-07-2023 09:50 AM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
(11-07-2023 09:37 AM)blazerwkr Wrote:  So is this business as usual for the BOT to stock the BOT with those who are only for UAT or is this guy a fair minded that cares for the 3 universities that make up the system? I was surprised to see that the BOT is made up of members from each of the state districts yet nary a one of those is UAB or UAH minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/university-al...16176.html

It is not surprising to me that a self perpetuating board would draw from the same bloodline.
11-07-2023 09:54 AM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
We all know what the UA BoT values and considers of primary importance, and it isn't UAB or UAH.
11-07-2023 10:45 AM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
When they have this much power, they couldn’t care less about any perception issues.
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(11-07-2023 10:45 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  We all know what the UA BoT values and considers of primary importance, and it isn't UAB or UAH.

Until it's time to use our endowment to fluff the "system" numbers...
11-07-2023 04:05 PM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
(11-07-2023 09:37 AM)blazerwkr Wrote:  So is this business as usual for the BOT to stock the BOT with those who are only for UAT or is this guy a fair minded that cares for the 3 universities that make up the system? I was surprised to see that the BOT is made up of members from each of the state districts yet nary a one of those is UAB or UAH minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/university-al...16176.html

There are two members of the board who got their bachelor's degrees from UAB:

One is Barbara Humphrey from Birmingham (she was also a student athlete at UAB and attended on a scholarship) and the other is Marietta Urquhart from Mobile.

One member of the board graduated both from Tuscaloosa (bachelor's) and from the UAB School of Medicine, in 1982.

Of course, Barbara Humphrey is married to Bobby Humphrey, of UA football fame

I'm almost positive Urquhart was on the board at the time of the Garrison/stadium fiasco and all three were on the board during the football shutdown.
11-07-2023 04:14 PM
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(11-07-2023 04:14 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(11-07-2023 09:37 AM)blazerwkr Wrote:  So is this business as usual for the BOT to stock the BOT with those who are only for UAT or is this guy a fair minded that cares for the 3 universities that make up the system? I was surprised to see that the BOT is made up of members from each of the state districts yet nary a one of those is UAB or UAH minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/university-al...16176.html

There are two members of the board who got their bachelor's degrees from UAB:

One is Barbara Humphrey from Birmingham (she was also a student athlete at UAB and attended on a scholarship) and the other is Marietta Urquhart from Mobile.

One member of the board graduated both from Tuscaloosa (bachelor's) and from the UAB School of Medicine, in 1982.

Of course, Barbara Humphrey is married to Bobby Humphrey, of UA football fame

I'm almost positive Urquhart was on the board at the time of the Garrison/stadium fiasco and all three were on the board during the football shutdown.

Barbara Humphrey is in PBJ's pocket.
11-08-2023 11:29 AM
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(11-08-2023 11:29 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(11-07-2023 04:14 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(11-07-2023 09:37 AM)blazerwkr Wrote:  So is this business as usual for the BOT to stock the BOT with those who are only for UAT or is this guy a fair minded that cares for the 3 universities that make up the system? I was surprised to see that the BOT is made up of members from each of the state districts yet nary a one of those is UAB or UAH minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/university-al...16176.html

There are two members of the board who got their bachelor's degrees from UAB:

One is Barbara Humphrey from Birmingham (she was also a student athlete at UAB and attended on a scholarship) and the other is Marietta Urquhart from Mobile.

One member of the board graduated both from Tuscaloosa (bachelor's) and from the UAB School of Medicine, in 1982.

Of course, Barbara Humphrey is married to Bobby Humphrey, of UA football fame

I'm almost positive Urquhart was on the board at the time of the Garrison/stadium fiasco and all three were on the board during the football shutdown.

Barbara Humphrey is in PBJ's pocket.

It is my understanding that her husband is a VP a Bryant Bank.
11-08-2023 03:30 PM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?
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(11-08-2023 03:34 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?

It hasn't. There just has to be an excuse for our perpetual mediocrity.
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(11-08-2023 03:57 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  
(11-08-2023 03:34 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?

It hasn't. There just has to be an excuse for our perpetual mediocrity.

Ray Watts' cap on the athletic dept remains and amounts to "standing in the way"
11-08-2023 04:59 PM
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
They don’t stand in our way as long as it comes out of our pocket.

If we pay for it they won’t stop us.
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(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  They don’t stand in our way as long as it comes out of our pocket.

If we pay for it they won’t stop us.

There's only so many "We' that can afford season tickets, Magic City Impact, Blazer Boosters, and anything else. I get "give what you can, where you can" but Watts knew what he was doing. Appeased the board and gave fans a small doorway of athletics control.
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(11-08-2023 03:34 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?

I'd lay odds that it has happened any number of times that we either were not aware of or did not understand the implications of a decision that they made. In general they have been cooperative but that does not mean that they are on our side. Doing things behind the scenes is their stock in trade. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and they got much more careful after that embarassment.

An obvious example is the refusal to allow us to build an on campus stadium. We had the land available, bought and paid for. They forbid UAB to use a bond issue to finance such things. The only reason that we are able to play at Protective is that the BJCC brokered the bond issue to finance that stadium.

As long as we can pay cash, we can largely do as we wish. The thing is that isn't how people normally do business. How many people save up and pay cash for their new home? They make a down payment and mortgage payments. Who saves up and pays a couple of hundred million for their school's football stadium?
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(11-08-2023 03:34 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?

Well, as long as the lease at Protective Stadium is in place you could say they are actively doing it

(11-08-2023 03:57 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  It hasn't. There just has to be an excuse for our perpetual mediocrity.

I do agree that while the Board clearly has their hand on the scale, it shouldn't be an excuse to let UAB rot away to be just another 6th tier state college. UAB should strive for excellence in the face of the opposition. That said, it doesn't mean stop trying to hold the Board accountable

(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  They don’t stand in our way as long as it comes out of our pocket.

If we pay for it they won’t stop us.

Well, how many legacy 6th generation nine-figure wealth families do we have to overcome this restriction that basically no other university in the country operates under? It's a ridiculous restriction that the university can't pay for things the university does, has the money to do, and that every other university does for itself
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(11-08-2023 09:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(11-08-2023 03:34 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  When was the last time the board stood in the way of UAB getting something we wanted?

Well, as long as the lease at Protective Stadium is in place you could say they are actively doing it

(11-08-2023 03:57 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  It hasn't. There just has to be an excuse for our perpetual mediocrity.

I do agree that while the Board clearly has their hand on the scale, it shouldn't be an excuse to let UAB rot away to be just another 6th tier state college. UAB should strive for excellence in the face of the opposition. That said, it doesn't mean stop trying to hold the Board accountable

(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  They don’t stand in our way as long as it comes out of our pocket.

If we pay for it they won’t stop us.

Well, how many legacy 6th generation nine-figure wealth families do we have to overcome this restriction that basically no other university in the country operates under? It's a ridiculous restriction that the university can't pay for things the university does, has the money to do, and that every other university does for itself



Exactly. Other states have Board of Trustees or Board of Regents for the state university system but the other colleges are still doing what they want to do.
UTSA is under the Texas Board of Regents and they are thriving.

Look at the UNC Board - it has UNC, NC State, ECU, App State, NCAT, and your obvious Charlotte and UNC-Asheville and others, yet those schools are not in a stranglehold.
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RE: More of the same by BOT?
It seems to me that a university system BOT that is dominated by the graduates and/or fans of one institution would more than likely advocate for that institution at the expense of other institutions in that system.
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