(11-08-2023 10:02 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  The best 5 to me are JQ, Mills, Jones, Walton and Brown. Who Penny actually said were the best 5 before the season started

I believe most people would agree that those five are our best starting lineup. If Penny chooses to start someone else, people need to remember that a starting role has to be earned. No one here is at the practices or in the locker room, and benching a player is a common tool used by coaches for a variety of reasons. One thing everyone should keep in mind is that Penny wants to win games even more than we do. I can assure you of that.

(11-07-2023 05:09 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  Jayden started in the exhibition games

Did he start in the regular season game played last night? The game that we're discussing and the one that counts towards our record?

Lighten up, Ace. Simply making a comment like you and everybody else, so relax.

I am not really a believer in the East high conspiracy thought process.
Hardaway said that Brown and Mills didn’t hustle enough in practice. Makes sense to me.
He’s gonna play the guys that give him the best opportunity to win. Period.

I will say that I hate his substitution patterns and hope he changed that BS this year, although some of the bench players this year could easily start.

Let the guys on the floor get into a rhythm. Don’t just take them out for the sake of taking them out.

(11-08-2023 11:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 05:09 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  Jayden started in the exhibition games

Did he start in the regular season game played last night? The game that we're discussing and the one that counts towards our record?

Lighten up, Ace. Simply making a comment like you and everybody else, so relax.

I am not really a believer in the East high conspiracy thought process.
Hardaway said that Brown and Mills didn’t hustle enough in practice. Makes sense to me.
He’s gonna play the guys that give him the best opportunity to win. Period.

I will say that I hate his substitution patterns and hope he changed that BS this year, although some of the bench players this year could easily start.

Let the guys on the floor get into a rhythm. Don’t just take them out for the sake of taking them out.

Dude just likes to argue lol

Always moving the goal posts. He’s a good poster but he seems to think everything means we want to fire Penny or fire Ryan. We seem to have quite a few of those on this board who want to bash people who only want to critique certain things. That’s what message boards are for. If everything was all great there’d be no reason to have one. It’s not like the op was saying “can Penny like tuna”. Msu35 needs to wait until Tigerseth and his lil bro get cranked up with the first loss

(11-08-2023 11:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 05:09 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  Jayden started in the exhibition games

Did he start in the regular season game played last night? The game that we're discussing and the one that counts towards our record?

Lighten up, Ace. Simply making a comment like you and everybody else, so relax.

Lighten up? I simply asked two questions. You're reading way too much into it.

(11-08-2023 11:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  I am not really a believer in the East high conspiracy thought process.
Hardaway said that Brown and Mills didn’t hustle enough in practice. Makes sense to me.
He’s gonna play the guys that give him the best opportunity to win. Period.

Complete agreement here.

(11-08-2023 11:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  I will say that I hate his substitution patterns and hope he changed that BS this year, although some of the bench players this year could easily start.

It's a delicate balance. You can't recruit good players telling them that they're riding the pine, and Penny comes across as a man who wants to be as good as his word. I also believe he's trying to keep fresh legs in the game to maintain a high tempo, wearing out opponents. Hopefully he continues to refine his approach as it does run the risk of disruption.

(11-08-2023 10:33 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 10:02 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  The best 5 to me are JQ, Mills, Jones, Walton and Brown. Who Penny actually said were the best 5 before the season started

I believe most people would agree that those five are our best starting lineup. If Penny chooses to start someone else, people need to remember that a starting role has to be earned. No one here is at the practices or in the locker room, and benching a player is a common tool used by coaches for a variety of reasons. One thing everyone should keep in mind is that Penny wants to win games even more than we do. I can assure you of that.

If you had listened to Penny’s postgame after LO he stated that he was going to change the lineup based on the start. Had nothing to do with who was doing well in practice. In fact if you go by practice that’s where Penny got his original starting 5.

(11-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Dude just likes to argue lol

That's not fair. I take a balanced approach. If I disagree, I'm not shy about expressing it, but I also introduce plenty of content and agree with many posters too.

(11-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  He’s a good poster but he seems to think everything means we want to fire Penny or fire Ryan.

Not at all. Are you pretending that there hasn't been a strong contingent of people who consistently beat down the point that they want Silverfield fired no matter how we perform? Every excuse in the book has been used to justify it. Prior to that, it was non-stop drama about Penny or the "East" conspiracy, and don't get me started on the Lomax bashing.

(11-08-2023 11:16 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 10:33 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 10:02 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  The best 5 to me are JQ, Mills, Jones, Walton and Brown. Who Penny actually said were the best 5 before the season started

I believe most people would agree that those five are our best starting lineup. If Penny chooses to start someone else, people need to remember that a starting role has to be earned. No one here is at the practices or in the locker room, and benching a player is a common tool used by coaches for a variety of reasons. One thing everyone should keep in mind is that Penny wants to win games even more than we do. I can assure you of that.

If you had listened to Penny’s postgame after LO he stated that he was going to change the lineup based on the start. Had nothing to do with who was doing well in practice. In fact if you go by practice that’s where Penny got his original starting 5.

Really? I posted about that before you ever mentioned it (twice.)

(11-07-2023 10:50 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 10:47 AM)TonyG Wrote:  Ya'll wasn't listening man lol. If he started malco because of "energy" he's just challenging brown to bring it every possession. Browns a conventional big, 30+ minutes a night is not happening with our tempo. Also if true, if browns effort is less than dandridge's consistently there will be some angry posters here.

Did you notice that both Jourdain and Dandridge were starters? Do you watch any of the pressers? It's not rocket surgery.

(11-08-2023 09:20 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 12:26 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 12:21 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 10:46 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I’ll be 75 soon

Red tees baby

My dad is 90 and still plays. If you play any of the Memphis public courses be aware that they don't use red anymore. Black is the pro tee's then Gold, Blue and White are the forward tees. I play the Blue's usually but have played the Gold.

At this point I probably need to just play Overton. I heard it’s been re done and in great shape

That's where I played my first ever game of golf. I haven't seen the whole course but number 8 doesn't look all the great to me from Poplar. It does have some bunkers and isn't as flat as it once was. The mounds look they they literally just dumped loads of dirt and threw some grass seed on them.

I have a 6 inch titanium rod in my left wrist that severely impacts my backswing so I quit playing several years ago. I sure do miss golf but shooting pool has replaced it.

That brings back some memories for me since that was the first round of golf I ever played also. Unfortunately I have not improved a whole lot since then. I hit the woods really good but my ball goes so far in there that I get lost trying to find my way back out.

Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

He got a double double from the center position and two fresh legs for the end of games. Also don’t forget neither of them were with the team through most of the summer. Getting in game shape, finding their optimum game weight and truly knowing your teammates style, tempo, strengths and propensities takes playing together.

We’ve flashes of scary good from a bunch of guys just not all at the same time. It will come.

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

He got a double double from the center position and two fresh legs for the end of games. Also don’t forget neither of them were with the team through most of the summer. Getting in game shape, finding their optimum game weight and truly knowing your teammates style, tempo, strengths and propensities takes playing together.

We’ve flashes of scary good from a bunch of guys just not all at the same time. It will come.

I don't understand the concern over Dandridge from that game. He played well and Jordan did as well. My concern is still Jones. He can't play that many minutes and turn the ball over at an Emoni Bates rate. I'd have him 5th on my guard rotation behind Quinerly, Mills, Walton, and even Young. Are we discovering why Pitino didn't want him?

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

In his latest presser he stated that Dandridge started to give the team some initial energy.

(11-09-2023 11:47 AM)micman Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

He got a double double from the center position and two fresh legs for the end of games. Also don’t forget neither of them were with the team through most of the summer. Getting in game shape, finding their optimum game weight and truly knowing your teammates style, tempo, strengths and propensities takes playing together.

We’ve flashes of scary good from a bunch of guys just not all at the same time. It will come.

I don't understand the concern over Dandridge from that game. He played well and Jordan did as well. My concern is still Jones. He can't play that many minutes and turn the ball over at an Emoni Bates rate. I'd have him 5th on my guard rotation behind Quinerly, Mills, Walton, and even Young. Are we discovering why Pitino didn't want him?

It's the first game. Jones could be our best player. At times.

(11-09-2023 03:41 PM)Southaven Wrote:  It's the first game. Jones could be our best player. At times.

I've seen flashes, at times. Hard to say if he's that much better than this iteration of Dandridge without more evidence, and I'm not being facetious. It's also difficult to gauge what positive intangibles he brings.

(11-07-2023 02:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  Care to know who had a negative BPM?

Code:

-0.5    Pierre
-1.9    Quinerly
-1.9    Taylor
-3.6    Jones
-14.9   Cherenfant
-78.5   Stansbury

(11-09-2023 11:47 AM)micman Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

He got a double double from the center position and two fresh legs for the end of games. Also don’t forget neither of them were with the team through most of the summer. Getting in game shape, finding their optimum game weight and truly knowing your teammates style, tempo, strengths and propensities takes playing together.

We’ve flashes of scary good from a bunch of guys just not all at the same time. It will come.

I don't understand the concern over Dandridge from that game. He played well and Jordan did as well. My concern is still Jones. He can't play that many minutes and turn the ball over at an Emoni Bates rate. I'd have him 5th on my guard rotation behind Quinerly, Mills, Walton, and even Young. Are we discovering why Pitino didn't want him?

Erratic was the word I believe. When he’s good he is really good. You have to figure out which one he is every night.

(11-09-2023 11:51 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

In his latest presser he stated that Dandridge started to give the team some initial energy.

Dandridge is not known to be the energy catalyst in his career. I’ll go with what he said to Munz.

(11-09-2023 09:38 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  [quote='msu35' pid='19268514' dateline='1699548674']
Dandridge is not known to be the energy catalyst in his career. I’ll go with what he said to Munz.

It's your prerogative, but the most recent statement from the coach disputes that. Watching the games, Brown certainly wasn't the hallmark of "high energy" either. Sure, let's insult and irritate the superior player by benching him, makes perfect sense.

(11-08-2023 11:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 05:09 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  Jayden started in the exhibition games

Did he start in the regular season game played last night? The game that we're discussing and the one that counts towards our record?

Lighten up, Ace. Simply making a comment like you and everybody else, so relax.

I am not really a believer in the East high conspiracy thought process.
Hardaway said that Brown and Mills didn’t hustle enough in practice. Makes sense to me.
He’s gonna play the guys that give him the best opportunity to win. Period.

I will say that I hate his substitution patterns and hope he changed that BS this year, although some of the bench players this year could easily start.

Let the guys on the floor get into a rhythm. Don’t just take them out for the sake of taking them out.

I hope he was listening to Stansbury's presser when he addressed the rotation. Hell, I don't really even mind the wholesale substitutions but don't interrupt the flow of the game to do it. It can be a momentum killer.

(11-09-2023 09:38 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 11:51 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Good reason to let info come from the coach!

Penny told Munz it had nothing to do with sending any kind of message to anyone. He wanted Mills and Brown to get opportunities to get there’s without all the other alpha males on the floor.

In his latest presser he stated that Dandridge started to give the team some initial energy.

Dandridge is not known to be the energy catalyst in his career. I’ll go with what he said to Munz.

He seems far different than past seasons so far.

(11-09-2023 10:06 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 09:38 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  [quote='msu35' pid='19268514' dateline='1699548674']
Dandridge is not known to be the energy catalyst in his career. I’ll go with what he said to Munz.

It's your prerogative, but the most recent statement from the coach disputes that. Watching the games, Brown certainly wasn't the hallmark of "high energy" either. Sure, let's insult and irritate the superior player by benching him, makes perfect sense.

Malcolm is capable of explosive moments, Brown is a much smoother player. Hard to tell which is more preferable overall. With 40 minutes in a game I'd say there's plenty of room for both. And I have never been a Malcolm proponent. So far I see myself changing in that regard.

(11-12-2023 08:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 10:06 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-09-2023 09:38 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  [quote='msu35' pid='19268514' dateline='1699548674']
Dandridge is not known to be the energy catalyst in his career. I’ll go with what he said to Munz.

It's your prerogative, but the most recent statement from the coach disputes that. Watching the games, Brown certainly wasn't the hallmark of "high energy" either. Sure, let's insult and irritate the superior player by benching him, makes perfect sense.

Malcolm is capable of explosive moments, Brown is a much smoother player. Hard to tell which is more preferable overall. With 40 minutes in a game I'd say there's plenty of room for both. And I have never been a Malcolm proponent. So far I see myself changing in that regard.

Good points. I admittedly haven't been a Dandridge fan either, but he seems stronger and healthier than I've ever seen him. Perhaps the portal experience prompted a realization that he needs to step it up this season, considering it's his last year of eligibility.

Never a bad thing to have two options with different skill sets.