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Given our long history of immediate coaching success, which includes...

- Dantonio going 4-7 our first year in the BE.
- Butch Jones going 4-8 his first year.
- Fickell going 4-8 his first year that featured Navy rushing for about 700 yards on us.

... and given the Porsche he was handed the keys to that included...

- Losing most of the roster, inculding three NFL receivers, from the year before that lost to UCF, Tulane and Satterfield's leftovers at Louisville.
- a starting QB who transferred to powerhouse Northwestern, that has started winning only since they benched him.
- a new conference which no longer has auto wins on the schedule.

... consensus here is that Satterfield is clearly not the guy for the job.

So I call on the expert analysts on this board to tell us who should have been hired ????

Unacceptable answers are:

1) I'm not the AD/It's not my job.
2) Deion Sanders
3) Anyone else that wasn't realistically coming to UC.

Let's have it.

Oh I love these threads. Just recycle one from Tubberville's time here

Get all excited about a coach.

Get butthurt when people point out that the guy was about to get his ass fired at his previous gig.

Realize that coach stinks.

Blame other posters for not having a list of names to hire.

Bravo. Lol

Someone who can properly evaluate QB talent

(10-29-2023 09:04 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oh I love these threads. Just recycle one from Tubberville's time here

Get all excited about a coach.

Get butthurt when people point out that the guy was about to get his ass fired at his previous gig.

Realize that coach stinks.

Blame other posters for not having a list of names to hire.

Bravo. Lol

This is not a Satterfield fluff thread. It's a chance for the people with all the answers to let it be known.

I note that you provided no name in your response... ???

Hire me.

I don't know much about football or a damn thing about coaching, but I'd be willing to take Satterfield's place for half his salary, and I could guarantee about the same results. Well, maybe UC would also lose to Yackumpuckee State Normal School in the season opener and be completely winless. But right off the bat, I'd save the university some money.

I don't need or want any additional perks. I'd work remotely, so there'd be no country club membership, free vehicle, block of tickets, or relocation allowances. The university would save even more money.

I wouldn't deserve, expect, or demand any performance bonuses. More money saved.

No need to consider stadium expansion, so more huge savings.

I'd happily own my obvious failures and wouldn't offer any lame excuses at post-game pressers.

If dissatisfied with my performance, the university could fire me after one year and I'd make no demands for a completely underserved golden parachute.

I'm already as old as dirt, so even if not fired, the misery couldn't and wouldn't last forever.

And finally, if UC isn't interested, could I maybe get a relief-pitching deal with the Reds for the same consideration? Half the salary; same results.

Honestly?

You probably could have put together a package to have gotten Matt Campbell from Iowa State at the end of last year if we hadn't panicked and hired Satterfield. Not now, but then.

However the fan base would have been screaming about an "uninspired hire" and all the other stuff... But there's no debate that Campbell > Satterfield.

(10-29-2023 09:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Given our long history of immediate coaching success, which includes...

- Dantonio going 4-7 our first year in the BE.
- Butch Jones going 4-8 his first year.
- Fickell going 4-8 his first year that featured Navy rushing for about 700 yards on us.

... and given the Porsche he was handed the keys to that included...

- Losing most of the roster, inculding three NFL receivers, from the year before that lost to UCF, Tulane and Satterfield's leftovers at Louisville.
- a starting QB who transferred to powerhouse Northwestern, that has started winning only since they benched him.
- a new conference which no longer has auto wins on the schedule.

... consensus here is that Satterfield is clearly not the guy for the job.

So I call on the expert analysts on this board to tell us who should have been hired ????

Unacceptable answers are:

1) I'm not the AD/It's not my job.
2) Deion Sanders
3) Anyone else that wasn't realistically coming to UC.

Let's have it.

Why is Deion unacceptable? At the very least he would have come with a much better QB. Colorado has already scored way more than last year.

Two things are true. There were red flags with this hire and the availability of coaches ouside of the MAC were nonexistent. Having a wish list of names is different than who was willing to coach here. I think the word on the street at the time was this was going to be a multi-year rebuild after the Fickell exodus and playing in a new league that no longer featured auto-wins against ECU, Tulsa, Temple, USF, et al. Outside of Deion, I don't think the fanbase was going to be happy with the hire regardless. Hey, it could be worse...Dana Holgorsen could be our coach.

(10-29-2023 12:34 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Given our long history of immediate coaching success, which includes...

- Dantonio going 4-7 our first year in the BE.
- Butch Jones going 4-8 his first year.
- Fickell going 4-8 his first year that featured Navy rushing for about 700 yards on us.

... and given the Porsche he was handed the keys to that included...

- Losing most of the roster, inculding three NFL receivers, from the year before that lost to UCF, Tulane and Satterfield's leftovers at Louisville.
- a starting QB who transferred to powerhouse Northwestern, that has started winning only since they benched him.
- a new conference which no longer has auto wins on the schedule.

... consensus here is that Satterfield is clearly not the guy for the job.

So I call on the expert analysts on this board to tell us who should have been hired ????

Unacceptable answers are:

1) I'm not the AD/It's not my job.
2) Deion Sanders
3) Anyone else that wasn't realistically coming to UC.

Let's have it.

Why is Deion unacceptable? At the very least he would have come with a much better QB. Colorado has already scored way more than last year.

He wasn't going to come to UC.

No one person could hold this job...should've been a Banter poll for every playcall and roster decision.

(10-29-2023 09:04 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oh I love these threads. Just recycle one from Tubberville's time here

Get all excited about a coach.

Get butthurt when people point out that the guy was about to get his ass fired at his previous gig.

Realize that coach stinks.

Blame other posters for not having a list of names to hire.

Bravo. Lol

LOL. You are so stuck on your narrative that the coach stinks, that you don't even respond to the OPs points. Would love to hear your thoughts on the roster that was left behind when CLF bailed and the players that transferred out, the move up in competition, and scrambling to put a transfer class and recruiting class into place. But, of course you have none. Shocking. I have no clue weather Satterfield will be successful here, especially after 8 games. You don't either. And before any of you genius's pipe in that the left over schools in the X12 are no better than the leftover AAC schools, you don't football much, as in, at all. There were definite warning signs with Flubbs, until I hear some of those, I am going to give the guy a chance.

You have an erection for me again.

It's getting weird.

(10-29-2023 06:48 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:04 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oh I love these threads. Just recycle one from Tubberville's time here

Get all excited about a coach.

Get butthurt when people point out that the guy was about to get his ass fired at his previous gig.

Realize that coach stinks.

Blame other posters for not having a list of names to hire.

Bravo. Lol

LOL. You are so stuck on your narrative that the coach stinks, that you don't even respond to the OPs points. Would love to hear your thoughts on the roster that was left behind when CLF bailed and the players that transferred out, the move up in competition, and scrambling to put a transfer class and recruiting class into place. But, of course you have none. Shocking. I have no clue weather Satterfield will be successful here, especially after 8 games. You don't either. And before any of you genius's pipe in that the left over schools in the X12 are no better than the leftover AAC schools, you don't football much, as in, at all. There were definite warning signs with Flubbs, until I hear some of those, I am going to give the guy a chance.

Spot on!!!

(10-29-2023 09:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Given our long history of immediate coaching success, which includes...

- Dantonio going 4-7 our first year in the BE.
- Butch Jones going 4-8 his first year.
- Fickell going 4-8 his first year that featured Navy rushing for about 700 yards on us.

... and given the Porsche he was handed the keys to that included...

- Losing most of the roster, inculding three NFL receivers, from the year before that lost to UCF, Tulane and Satterfield's leftovers at Louisville.
- a starting QB who transferred to powerhouse Northwestern, that has started winning only since they benched him.
- a new conference which no longer has auto wins on the schedule.

... consensus here is that Satterfield is clearly not the guy for the job.

So I call on the expert analysts on this board to tell us who should have been hired ????

Unacceptable answers are:

1) I'm not the AD/It's not my job.
2) Deion Sanders
3) Anyone else that wasn't realistically coming to UC.

Let's have it.

i can't remember if i wrote this in the original coaching search thread but i posted that i think we'll regret not hiring Alex Golesh in another thread recently. He's from the Heupel coaching tree and i like what Heupel did at ucf and tennessee. Golesh is doing the same at usf. When you don't have the talent, you need to scheme in order to overcome the talent deficit. i think running a high-pace, limited substitute offense would help us in some respects.

(10-29-2023 06:51 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You have an erection for me again.

It's getting weird.

I'm frustrated with what we've seen from Satt so far, but you have to admit Fickell left the cupboard a little bare.

O-line - Poor
WR - Average at best
TE - Above average
D-line - good
LB's - Poor
CB's - Poor - Coombs
QB - Disaster
RB - Good
ST - Disaster - Coombs
S - Poor

Fickell quit on us a year before he left. We honestly deserve a refund on part of his salary from last year.

Oh, I have no idea who we should have hired. I would hope Satterfield will improve like many others after their first year, but I am struggling to see any signs of hope.

I think our way forward will always be a young coordinator. Someone hungry willing to go all out to prove themselves. Or a lower level HC looking to move up. Lateral and downward moves rarely work.

(10-29-2023 07:58 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Given our long history of immediate coaching success, which includes...

- Dantonio going 4-7 our first year in the BE.
- Butch Jones going 4-8 his first year.
- Fickell going 4-8 his first year that featured Navy rushing for about 700 yards on us.

... and given the Porsche he was handed the keys to that included...

- Losing most of the roster, inculding three NFL receivers, from the year before that lost to UCF, Tulane and Satterfield's leftovers at Louisville.
- a starting QB who transferred to powerhouse Northwestern, that has started winning only since they benched him.
- a new conference which no longer has auto wins on the schedule.

... consensus here is that Satterfield is clearly not the guy for the job.

So I call on the expert analysts on this board to tell us who should have been hired ????

Unacceptable answers are:

1) I'm not the AD/It's not my job.
2) Deion Sanders
3) Anyone else that wasn't realistically coming to UC.

Let's have it.

i can't remember if i wrote this in the original coaching search thread but i posted that i think we'll regret not hiring Alex Golesh in another thread recently. He's from the Heupel coaching tree and i like what Heupel did at ucf and tennessee. Golesh is doing the same at usf. When you don't have the talent, you need to scheme in order to overcome the talent deficit. i think running a high-pace, limited substitute offense would help us in some respects.

Great points.

jeremy chadwell

Before Satterfield was hired, wern’t the 3 finalists all underwhelming (MAC or MAC level coaches)?

If it wasn’t him, who would have it been?
Wasn’t Golesh already hired (sorry I dont follow that stuff). What other HC were reasonable options to move up to our level or assistants who were ready for the jump. I can see the hesitancy in hiring someone who’s never been a head coach before.

I do feel it has to be somebody who understands Ohio football and getting under the radar guys like Fickell did and develop them while still recruiting in other regions.