Instead of dragging more programs out of the G level, like the PAC2 is threatening to do and the ACC had just done, how about a merger between the PAC2, the ACC and the Big 12? This is going on the assumption that the ACC may lose up to six programs to the Big Ten or SEC, which I think it's too soon but anything is possible with the insanity going on now.

If the crazy does happen within the ACC then I think that Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina and Virgina will ultimately wind up in the SEC; Miami and Notre Dame to the Big Ten. Both would be finally set at 20 each.

The rest of the programs might still harbor delusions of getting into the upper two but the last thing they should want is adding potential competitors to their ranks. So I think they'd be wise to combine forces and merge. Merging also solves the issue of Oregon State and Washington State without adding more programs.

The thirty other programs can be split into West, Central and East:



Shifting UCF and West Virginia to the East makes a lot of sense geographically. The Mountain West, the Sun Belt and the American Athletic would be fighting to be the G representatives in the expanded playoffs.

How it could be done:

- Merge under the Big 12 Grant of Rights, which only lasts to 2031

- Take over the ACC Network, along with a name change

- Hire Brett Yormark or Gloria Nevarez as the Commissioner

- Exposure on both Disney and Fox, and potentially more media partners after 2031

- Funds left over in the Pac-12 could be used to cover the expenses of merging


This type of move would finally establish a real cut-off line between the top and the rest of FBS and should hold unless the top two decide to go crazy again.

(09-27-2023 11:41 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Instead of dragging more programs out of the G level, like the PAC2 is threatening to do and the ACC had just done, how about a merger between the PAC2, the ACC and the Big 12? This is going on the assumption that the ACC may lose up to six programs to the Big Ten or SEC, which I think it's too soon but anything is possible with the insanity going on now.

If the crazy does happen within the ACC then I think that Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina and Virgina will ultimately wind up in the SEC; Miami and Notre Dame to the Big Ten. Both would be finally set at 20 each.

The rest of the programs might still harbor delusions of getting into the upper two but the last thing they should want is adding potential competitors to their ranks. So I think they'd be wise to combine forces and merge. Merging also solves the issue of Oregon State and Washington State without adding more programs.

The thirty other programs can be split into West, Central and East:

Code:

Washington State               Iowa State                Syracuse
Oregon State                   Kansas State              Boston College
Stanford                       Kansas                    Pitt
Cal                            Oklahoma State            West Virginia
Arizona State                  Baylor                    UCF
Arizona                        TCU                       Virginia Tech
Utah                           SMU                       Duke
BYU                            Houston                   NC State
Colorado                       Louisville                Wake Forest
Texas Tech                     Cincinnati                Georgia Tech

Shifting UCF and West Virginia to the East makes a lot of sense geographically. The Mountain West, the Sun Belt and the American Athletic would be fighting to be the G representatives in the expanded playoffs.

How it could be done:

- Merge under the Big 12 Grant of Rights, which only lasts to 2031

- Take over the ACC Network, along with a name change

- Hire Brett Yormark or Gloria Nevarez as the Commissioner

- Exposure on both Disney and Fox, and potentially more media partners after 2031

- Funds left over in the Pac-12 could be used to cover the expenses of merging


This type of move would finally establish a real cut-off line between the top and the rest of FBS and should hold unless the top two decide to go crazy again.

Ooh, David St is not going to like this: It leaves out Boise.

(09-27-2023 11:41 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Instead of dragging more programs out of the G level, like the PAC2 is threatening to do and the ACC had just done, how about a merger between the PAC2, the ACC and the Big 12? This is going on the assumption that the ACC may lose up to six programs to the Big Ten or SEC, which I think it's too soon but anything is possible with the insanity going on now.

If the crazy does happen within the ACC then I think that Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina and Virgina will ultimately wind up in the SEC; Miami and Notre Dame to the Big Ten. Both would be finally set at 20 each.

The rest of the programs might still harbor delusions of getting into the upper two but the last thing they should want is adding potential competitors to their ranks. So I think they'd be wise to combine forces and merge. Merging also solves the issue of Oregon State and Washington State without adding more programs.

The thirty other programs can be split into West, Central and East:

Code:

Washington State               Iowa State                Syracuse
Oregon State                   Kansas State              Boston College
Stanford                       Kansas                    Pitt
Cal                            Oklahoma State            West Virginia
Arizona State                  Baylor                    UCF
Arizona                        TCU                       Virginia Tech
Utah                           SMU                       Duke
BYU                            Houston                   NC State
Colorado                       Louisville                Wake Forest
Texas Tech                     Cincinnati                Georgia Tech

Shifting UCF and West Virginia to the East makes a lot of sense geographically. The Mountain West, the Sun Belt and the American Athletic would be fighting to be the G representatives in the expanded playoffs.

How it could be done:

- Merge under the Big 12 Grant of Rights, which only lasts to 2031

- Take over the ACC Network, along with a name change

- Hire Brett Yormark or Gloria Nevarez as the Commissioner

- Exposure on both Disney and Fox, and potentially more media partners after 2031

- Funds left over in the Pac-12 could be used to cover the expenses of merging


This type of move would finally establish a real cut-off line between the top and the rest of FBS and should hold unless the top two decide to go crazy again.

Not a bad idea. I think retaining 4 separate conferences may be "better." Perhaps we elevate a few more programs and have a 20-20-18-18 setup.

B1G
Atlantic: Maryland, Miami, Notre Dame, Penn St, Rutgers
Central: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Midwest: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Purdue
Pacific: Nebraska, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Washington

SEC
East: Clemson, Florida St, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
South: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St
Southeast: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Southwest: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M

ACC
Atlantic: Boston College, East Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
Coastal: Duke, Georgia Tech, North Carolina St, South Florida, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Metro: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Tulane

XVIII
Central: Arizona, Colorado, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Utah
Southwest: Baylor, BYU, Oklahoma St, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech
West: Arizona St, California, Oregon St, San Diego St, Stanford, Washington St

The ACC and Big 12 stay viable only if no one else leave those conference. However, if either starts losing programs again then there's no guarantee that they'd stay at the adults table.

Let's see what happens to the PAC2 in the next few weeks.