XLance
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(09-29-2023 05:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:01 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: (09-29-2023 04:18 PM)Gitanole Wrote: (09-29-2023 12:53 PM)Hallcity Wrote: The ridiculous Clemson rumor gets knocked down -- so immediately people start speculating anew about Clemson and FSU leaving! The proof that this speculation is pointless doesn't matter. You're obsessed with it.
No one is 'speculating anew.' A massive revenue gap has opened between the ACC and P2. This situation is ongoing.
Schools that intend to compete at the highest level know they need to get on the right side of that gap. Sitting around passively until 2036 is not an option these schools can afford. For this reason, seven ACC schools have actively explored the legal strength of the ACC grant-of-rights document.
This being the case, many here are watching how things unfold—noting important dates, developments, and opportunities.
I look forward to the day you become a poor relation in the SEC. You will have that extra bit of money but still be behind your rivals to the tune of 20 M a year just on football ticket sales and despite your hubris and self aggrandizement you will never be able to pour more money into your program as can Alabama, Texas, TAMU, and OU.
I guess it is better to be 6th, 7th, or 8th in the SEC pecking order than first or second in the ACC. Have fun with it.
It's not so much about the money, though that is an issue, as it is about survival as a brand. The desire not to be left behind when the new upper tier forms is what most of this is about. The networks have determined a format, and the scramble is on for a ticket.
Fear is indeed a strong motivator.
Some would rather be comfortable in the bosom that to strive to be a champion.
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dgrace4cards
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2023 06:34 AM by dgrace4cards.)
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10-05-2023 06:22 AM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(09-29-2023 05:23 PM)esayem Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:01 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: (09-29-2023 04:18 PM)Gitanole Wrote: (09-29-2023 12:53 PM)Hallcity Wrote: The ridiculous Clemson rumor gets knocked down -- so immediately people start speculating anew about Clemson and FSU leaving! The proof that this speculation is pointless doesn't matter. You're obsessed with it.
No one is 'speculating anew.' A massive revenue gap has opened between the ACC and P2. This situation is ongoing.
Schools that intend to compete at the highest level know they need to get on the right side of that gap. Sitting around passively until 2036 is not an option these schools can afford. For this reason, seven ACC schools have actively explored the legal strength of the ACC grant-of-rights document.
This being the case, many here are watching how things unfold—noting important dates, developments, and opportunities.
I look forward to the day you become a poor relation in the SEC. You will have that extra bit of money but still be behind your rivals to the tune of 20 M a year just on football ticket sales and despite your hubris and self aggrandizement you will never be able to pour more money into your program as can Alabama, Texas, TAMU, and OU.
I guess it is better to be 6th, 7th, or 8th in the SEC pecking order than first or second in the ACC. Have fun with it.
It's not so much about the money, though that is an issue, as it is about survival as a brand. The desire not to be left behind when the new upper tier forms is what most of this is about. The networks have determined a format, and the scramble is on for a ticket.
These “networks” have a shelf life. If true consolidation finalizes then that’s also going to be down to one network. I think the opposite; I believe major universities take control of video streaming a la radio. Could you imagine if Ohio State or Alabama could stream both home and away games? Also, you can pitch learning opportunities to the eggheads. I wish I could invest!
Suddenly Syracuse is wanted lol
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(09-30-2023 01:08 PM)XLance Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:01 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: (09-29-2023 04:18 PM)Gitanole Wrote: (09-29-2023 12:53 PM)Hallcity Wrote: The ridiculous Clemson rumor gets knocked down -- so immediately people start speculating anew about Clemson and FSU leaving! The proof that this speculation is pointless doesn't matter. You're obsessed with it.
No one is 'speculating anew.' A massive revenue gap has opened between the ACC and P2. This situation is ongoing.
Schools that intend to compete at the highest level know they need to get on the right side of that gap. Sitting around passively until 2036 is not an option these schools can afford. For this reason, seven ACC schools have actively explored the legal strength of the ACC grant-of-rights document.
This being the case, many here are watching how things unfold—noting important dates, developments, and opportunities.
I look forward to the day you become a poor relation in the SEC. You will have that extra bit of money but still be behind your rivals to the tune of 20 M a year just on football ticket sales and despite your hubris and self aggrandizement you will never be able to pour more money into your program as can Alabama, Texas, TAMU, and OU.
I guess it is better to be 6th, 7th, or 8th in the SEC pecking order than first or second in the ACC. Have fun with it.
It's not so much about the money, though that is an issue, as it is about survival as a brand. The desire not to be left behind when the new upper tier forms is what most of this is about. The networks have determined a format, and the scramble is on for a ticket.
Even super groups need cannon fodder schools. You know, some what of a brand that the real upper echelon teams can beat on a regular basis and it looks like an accomplishment to an uninformed public.
No fanbois heard by joining some best of conference: math doesn't apply. Everyone joining finishes in the Top 10 nationally and the fanbois all get a share of the TV money.
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10-05-2023 07:14 AM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(10-05-2023 06:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:23 PM)esayem Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: (09-29-2023 05:01 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote: (09-29-2023 04:18 PM)Gitanole Wrote: No one is 'speculating anew.' A massive revenue gap has opened between the ACC and P2. This situation is ongoing.
Schools that intend to compete at the highest level know they need to get on the right side of that gap. Sitting around passively until 2036 is not an option these schools can afford. For this reason, seven ACC schools have actively explored the legal strength of the ACC grant-of-rights document.
This being the case, many here are watching how things unfold—noting important dates, developments, and opportunities.
I look forward to the day you become a poor relation in the SEC. You will have that extra bit of money but still be behind your rivals to the tune of 20 M a year just on football ticket sales and despite your hubris and self aggrandizement you will never be able to pour more money into your program as can Alabama, Texas, TAMU, and OU.
I guess it is better to be 6th, 7th, or 8th in the SEC pecking order than first or second in the ACC. Have fun with it.
It's not so much about the money, though that is an issue, as it is about survival as a brand. The desire not to be left behind when the new upper tier forms is what most of this is about. The networks have determined a format, and the scramble is on for a ticket.
These “networks” have a shelf life. If true consolidation finalizes then that’s also going to be down to one network. I think the opposite; I believe major universities take control of video streaming a la radio. Could you imagine if Ohio State or Alabama could stream both home and away games? Also, you can pitch learning opportunities to the eggheads. I wish I could invest!
Suddenly Syracuse is wanted lol
SU has a great media program.
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dgrace4cards
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
Welp....today is/was 10/10/23 a date some Clemson "insiders" were saying was B10 for Clemson day.....
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10-09-2023 05:40 PM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(10-09-2023 05:40 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote: Welp....today is/was 10/10/23 a date some Clemson "insiders" were saying was B10 for Clemson day.....
Check your calendar. Today is the 9th. Tomorrow is a Tuesday so, perhaps too cliche'. We'll see. Still if Clemson planned to do anything, it's not a blogger who would know, and anyone in the inner circle who leaked an important date might have problems staying in that circle.
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10-09-2023 07:40 PM |
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dgrace4cards
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(10-09-2023 07:40 PM)JRsec Wrote: (10-09-2023 05:40 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote: Welp....today is/was 10/10/23 a date some Clemson "insiders" were saying was B10 for Clemson day.....
Check your calendar. Today is the 9th. Tomorrow is a Tuesday so, perhaps too cliche'. We'll see. Still if Clemson planned to do anything, it's not a blogger who would know, and anyone in the inner circle who leaked an important date might have problems staying in that circle.
Ugghh you're right...I had today being the 10th in my head all day .... lol...Still on a football high from Saturday I suppose.
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10-09-2023 09:09 PM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(10-09-2023 09:09 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote: (10-09-2023 07:40 PM)JRsec Wrote: (10-09-2023 05:40 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote: Welp....today is/was 10/10/23 a date some Clemson "insiders" were saying was B10 for Clemson day.....
Check your calendar. Today is the 9th. Tomorrow is a Tuesday so, perhaps too cliche'. We'll see. Still if Clemson planned to do anything, it's not a blogger who would know, and anyone in the inner circle who leaked an important date might have problems staying in that circle.
Ugghh you're right...I had today being the 10th in my head all day .... lol...Still on a football high from Saturday I suppose.
If my team were undefeated and had just beat ND at home before a record crowd, I'd be on a football high till the following Saturday.
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10-09-2023 11:29 PM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
At this point, if I were one of the schools that would have a realistic shot at eventually getting a P2 invite, I think I would be OK with allowing FSU and Clemson to leave next year if they agree to pay $15 million a year for the remainder of the ACC GoR. It gives me a better chance of earning the CFP autobid for as long as I stay in the ACC.
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10-10-2023 07:54 AM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
October is almost over…
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10-31-2023 10:54 PM |
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RE: Conf Realignment - Is Clemson really trying to do the DAMN Thing?!
(10-31-2023 10:54 PM)random asian guy Wrote:
October is almost over…
They were referring to October of 2036.
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