(10-06-2023 02:20 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  But a ok when a Dem does it.

It is terrible both ways.

(10-06-2023 07:47 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The stupid b*tch just posted this yesterday. Tanq's saviors are STUPID.

FFS

Why do these otherwise "smart" people NOT understand that no "appraiser" sets the value of anything, not even a ham sandwich?

As an "appraiser" (no, I'm not one) I'd value a blow coke straw painting at about 20-40 bucks. Tops.

However, the MARKET sets the value, as in what the market will bear, somehow values that same work of art somewhere around a half Mill.

This is some of the dumbest schit I've ever seen. Tish and some Emmett Brown wannabe are now setting the market for properties in Palm Beach from New York City?

Really?

No, really? If that's becoming the standard by which we do things, with this kind of nitwits we are completely fuxxed. Good luck my friends.



Ya'll starting to figure this out yet?







Suckers

(10-06-2023 03:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 07:47 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The stupid b*tch just posted this yesterday. Tanq's saviors are STUPID.

FFS

Why do these otherwise "smart" people NOT understand that no "appraiser" sets the value of anything, not even a ham sandwich?

As an "appraiser" (no, I'm not one) I'd value a blow coke straw painting at about 20-40 bucks. Tops.

However, the MARKET sets the value, as in what the market will bear, somehow values that same work of art somewhere around a half Mill.

This is some of the dumbest schit I've ever seen. Tish and some Emmett Brown wannabe are now setting the market for properties in Palm Beach from New York City?

Really?

No, really? If that's becoming the standard by which we do things, with this kind of nitwits we are completely fuxxed. Good luck my friends.



Ya'll starting to figure this out yet?







Suckers

LeTit & ClownShow judge and Tanq dont understand, but they are using tax assessed valuation instead of market valuations.

In Letit's tweet, she stated that the countys appraisal was $25million. But that was the counties ASSESSED value, not its valuation.

LeTit said Trump agreed with the $25million valuation. Not true. Trump agrees with the $25million assessment because he has to. It appears he was going to challenge that, but FLorida caps assessment increases to 3% per year. If you take the original $5million assessed value when he purchased the property in the 80's, and increase that assessment by 3% per year, you get the $25million assessment number.

LeTit was mad that Trump showed up to his own trial.

LeTit and clownshow judge are mad because they are publicly getting called out by literally everybody not named Tanq.

CLownshow judge is now denying he is saying things that he has written out in his rulings.

Instead of "owning" Trump, they instead accuse him of bullying them, and then he leaves them in tears, goes to DC, and promptly gets nominated as speaker of the house.

(10-06-2023 03:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 03:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 07:47 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The stupid b*tch just posted this yesterday. Tanq's saviors are STUPID.

FFS

Why do these otherwise "smart" people NOT understand that no "appraiser" sets the value of anything, not even a ham sandwich?

As an "appraiser" (no, I'm not one) I'd value a blow coke straw painting at about 20-40 bucks. Tops.

However, the MARKET sets the value, as in what the market will bear, somehow values that same work of art somewhere around a half Mill.

This is some of the dumbest schit I've ever seen. Tish and some Emmett Brown wannabe are now setting the market for properties in Palm Beach from New York City?

Really?

No, really? If that's becoming the standard by which we do things, with this kind of nitwits we are completely fuxxed. Good luck my friends.



Ya'll starting to figure this out yet?







Suckers

LeTit & ClownShow judge and Tanq dont understand

I respectfully disagree. They understand just fine. But, they are partisan liars that look for any way to smear Trump. If this exact same situation was applied to any wealthy Dem, this case would have never been brought, you wouldn't know who Latit was, and Tanq wouldn't say a word.

(10-06-2023 03:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 03:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 07:47 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The stupid b*tch just posted this yesterday. Tanq's saviors are STUPID.

FFS

Why do these otherwise "smart" people NOT understand that no "appraiser" sets the value of anything, not even a ham sandwich?

As an "appraiser" (no, I'm not one) I'd value a blow coke straw painting at about 20-40 bucks. Tops.

However, the MARKET sets the value, as in what the market will bear, somehow values that same work of art somewhere around a half Mill.

This is some of the dumbest schit I've ever seen. Tish and some Emmett Brown wannabe are now setting the market for properties in Palm Beach from New York City?

Really?

No, really? If that's becoming the standard by which we do things, with this kind of nitwits we are completely fuxxed. Good luck my friends.



Ya'll starting to figure this out yet?







Suckers

LeTit & ClownShow judge and Tanq dont understand, but they are using tax assessed valuation instead of market valuations.

In Letit's tweet, she stated that the countys appraisal was $25million. But that was the counties ASSESSED value, not its valuation.

LeTit said Trump agreed with the $25million valuation. Not true. Trump agrees with the $25million assessment because he has to. It appears he was going to challenge that, but FLorida caps assessment increases to 3% per year. If you take the original $5million assessed value when he purchased the property in the 80's, and increase that assessment by 3% per year, you get the $25million assessment number.

LeTit was mad that Trump showed up to his own trial.

LeTit and clownshow judge are mad because they are publicly getting called out by literally everybody not named Tanq.

CLownshow judge is now denying he is saying things that he has written out in his rulings.

Instead of "owning" Trump, they instead accuse him of bullying them, and then he leaves them in tears, goes to DC, and promptly gets nominated as speaker of the house.

Its just astounding how the left is willing to display its ignorance of the real world.

Honest question:

Have the judge and AG in this case both bought and sold real estate. Not show up and sign papers or have a proxy do it for them, actually go through the process of qualifying for a mortgage and the approvals, and the appraisals. And have they paid their own real estate tax bill and understood what all that says and means.

I ask because they are behaving like either a lawyer/realtor did it all for them (just signers) or they've only ever rented.

PS - My "assessed" value of my house is about 1/20 of the appraised value (and nearby comparables that sold in the last year).

(10-05-2023 04:51 PM)banker Wrote:  Tanq, do you believe this case has political motivations and punitive judgement beyond what we would see for other real estate developers with an identical fact pattern?

It says a lot that he has time to write multi paragraph, multi quote posts, but not the time to reply to a question that only requires a one word answer.

Intellectual honesty is a bridge too far for many people.

(10-06-2023 03:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Its really unfathomable for an honest judge to make that type of ruling before trial.
Seize assets first. Have due process later.

(10-06-2023 03:52 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-05-2023 04:51 PM)banker Wrote:  Tanq, do you believe this case has political motivations and punitive judgement beyond what we would see for other real estate developers with an identical fact pattern?

It says a lot that he has time to write multi paragraph, multi quote posts, but not the time to reply to a question that only requires a one word answer.

Intellectual honesty is a bridge too far for many people.

Honesty is a bridge too far for many people.

The word 'intellectual' is unnecessary in this instance.

(10-06-2023 03:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

lulz, I almost feel sorry for Tanq now. The beatdown is unbearable.

"BUT MUH DOXXING! BUT MUH UNCHECKED JURY TRIAL BOX! BUT MUH FAKE VALUATION!"

That appellate decision was 100% coming. Some on here must have gotten their law degree from a box of cracker jacks.

(10-06-2023 04:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 03:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

lulz, I almost feel sorry for Tanq now. The beatdown is unbearable.

"BUT MUH DOXXING! BUT MUH UNCHECKED JURY TRIAL BOX! BUT MUH FAKE VALUATION!"

It has become quite comical for the resident message board legal "expert".

(10-06-2023 04:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  That appellate decision was 100% coming. Some on here must have gotten their law degree from a box of cracker jacks.

correct, I knew it was coming down, but I didnt expect it THIS quickly. Talk about the judge and Letit getting shut the f*ck down.

We have video of the appellate court handing down their ruling to the judge and Letit James.

(10-06-2023 03:52 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-05-2023 04:51 PM)banker Wrote:  Tanq, do you believe this case has political motivations and punitive judgement beyond what we would see for other real estate developers with an identical fact pattern?

It says a lot that he has time to write multi paragraph, multi quote posts, but not the time to reply to a question that only requires a one word answer.

Intellectual honesty is a bridge too far for many people.

Sorry I didnt see it.

It could well be what you say. Or it could be that Trump has a long history of this.

If Trump engaged in fraudulent activity, I have zero problem with this pursuit.

If anyone engages in the level and depth of activity as has been alleged I wouldnt have a problem.

Notwithstanding if Trump has a political history or not ---

No one forced Trump to do the actions in the complaint, if shown he directed them.

No one pointed a gun at Trump's head to make Trump to do the actions in the complaint, if shown he directed them.

And it seems clear from the record that it is a real issue. And trump has every opportunity to present his side in the remaining counts. And he has every right to pursue an appeal of the corporate death penalty represented by the SJ.

If you think others have done this same thing at this apparent level -- then I would have zero issue with a similar AG action.

If in fact there is liability here due to persistent behavior, bummer that Trump did it and was quite prominent. If it is found he persistently breached his obligations -- kind of stupid to operate that way for a score of years and hope to fly under the radar with it with a prominent political career following those actions.

If it is found that he was pure and innocent as the driven snow, Ill take your position. The record doesnt really help him here on that.

Criminy, right now, his attorneys are now arguing that everything was because of his accountants -- Kise mentioned he thinks Mazur should be the one on trial here. That doesnt sound like a defense that is saying 'good appraisals, and good financial condition' -- it sounds as though they are admitting the issues in the SCFs and simply pointing the finger. The testimony of Trump's ex-controller (and fellow defendant in the suit) today certainly didnt help the 'there is nothing wrong in the statements' defense page.

Kind of a far cry from what the gallery here is repeating. I guess that hot take hasnt come through with the new messaging yet.

(10-06-2023 04:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 03:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Its really unfathomable for an honest judge to make that type of ruling before trial.
Seize assets first. Have due process later.

The entire point of a judgement is to get to a judgement. Judge rendered judgement via summary judgement -- and proceeded with it. Nothing super special about that. And because of SJ on that count, there was no trial that you talk about above. But nonetheless, it is up to the losing defendant in this case to 'stop the gears' -- not up to a judge to stop the gears.

Appellate Division did the right thing in when they took in the appeal as a matter of formality -- that is to keep the status quo.

Im surprised Trump's legal team took so long in getting the appeal in. They had an opportunity to appeal from the time the SJ came down on count 1, and they kind of sat on it for a week.

Trump finally did that. And again, the process of the judgement is stayed during the appeal. The right thing to do.

(10-06-2023 04:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  "BUT MUH DOXXING! BUT MUH UNCHECKED JURY TRIAL BOX! BUT MUH FAKE VALUATION!"

I double checked with my NY licensed compadres --- here is the jury issue:

"Here’s what she needed to do as I have outlined. Check the box. Have the hearing w the judge over her entitlement to it. Use case law in her favor to try to get the jury. And appeal if denied. But she just sat on it."

There is a decent question for the use of a jury here. She never bothered to even request it.

But please play the victimization card. You play the butthurt victim quite well.

(10-06-2023 04:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 03:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

lulz, I almost feel sorry for Tanq now. The beatdown is unbearable.

"BUT MUH DOXXING! BUT MUH UNCHECKED JURY TRIAL BOX! BUT MUH FAKE VALUATION!"

Its clear to everyone what this was. Its obviously a politically motivated attack in which the justice system has been weaponized. This case is not only unreasonable----its unprecedented. There was no damage to anyone. The loans were long ago paid completely off---many were paid off early. Any normal AG would never have provided any resources to a case like this and any normal reasonable judge would have ruled the whole thing moot at this point. Tang's clearly intelligent----he is simply irrational when it comes to anything Trump.