Vegas lists him at 20-1 to get fired.

Finally, Memphis head coach Ryan Silverfeld is given 20/1 odds for being the first head coach fired this year. Silverfeld has undoubtedly had the most successful run of the G5 coaches mentioned here. The Tigers are 2-0 to start the year and have not had a losing season in any of Silverfeld's previous three years as head coach. However, Memphis has yet to finish a season ranked under Silverfeld while the program's previous two head coaches accomplished that at least once in four year tenures with the Tigers.

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Missouri, Boise, Tulane, SMU

3 at home, Missouri in StL

At this point all other opponents look Charmin soft.

Anything less than 10-2 would be bad.

He can literally lose all 4 of those, go 8-4 - and there are some on here that would be ready to extend his contract and throw him a parade...

He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

(09-13-2023 07:46 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Missouri, Boise, Tulane, SMU

3 at home, Missouri in StL

At this point all other opponents look Charmin soft.

Anything less than 10-2 would be bad.

He can literally lose all 4 of those, go 8-4 - and there are some on here that would be ready to extend his contract and throw him a parade...

If you're at a school with an all time winning rate of .496 and you have a .667 season then 99.9% of those schools will give you an extension.

You're not going to get another Norvell level coach to take this job.

So stop using him for a measuring stick.

Not a single coach in Memphis history would be able to match up.

Spook and Norvell are the only coaches that have stayed at Memphis over 3 years that have a better record.

And only 5 in the entire history of the program have a better record.

Here's another tidbit fir you Norvell NEVER won a bowl game at Memphis.

His ONLY post season win was AAC title game.

Silverfield's ONLY post season loss was with Norvell's last team.

At least there’s a chance.

(09-13-2023 08:50 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 07:46 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Missouri, Boise, Tulane, SMU

3 at home, Missouri in StL

At this point all other opponents look Charmin soft.

Anything less than 10-2 would be bad.

He can literally lose all 4 of those, go 8-4 - and there are some on here that would be ready to extend his contract and throw him a parade...

If you're at a school with an all time winning rate of .496 and you have a .667 season then 99.9% of those schools will give you an extension.

You're not going to get another Norvell level coach to take this job.

So stop using him for a measuring stick.

Not a single coach in Memphis history would be able to match up.

Spook and Norvell are the only coaches that have stayed at Memphis over 3 years that have a better record.

And only 5 in the entire history of the program have a better record.

Here's another tidbit fir you Norvell NEVER won a bowl game at Memphis.

His ONLY post season win was AAC title game.

Silverfield's ONLY post season loss was with Norvell's last team.

This is certainly an example of isolating a specific stat to support a point.

I'm not even so sure its the final record that our fans are concerned with. It is more of the dull as dishwater offense we run, the conservative play-calling, the letting off the gas during games, the overly positive coach speak after games (similar to Pastner, but not as much), and then you couple all of that with a winning record that is just good enough to go to mediocre bowls each year....it just drains the excitement of what tiger fans used to dream of at the beginning of each season during those years with Fuente and Norvell. I know it could always be worse (Porter), but I think if we had coach or even coordinator that could infuse some offensive play-calling that was exciting and allowed players in space to make big time plays, then fans would feel better about the product on the field. It feels like the only "big play" we got is where Scates runs 40-50 yards down the center of field and we throw up a lob to him over the safety and hope he catches it. Where is the blocking up field that allows a catch and extra yardage? or those bubble screens that allowed guys like Gainwell, Pollard, Henderson to break the big one? (granted those our NFL caliber players, but we do have some talent in the backfield).

I think to call this a successful season, we have to win the games we are favored to win and then win at least 2 of 4 out of the Boise, Missou, Tulane, and SMU games. So that comes out to about 9-3 or 10-2.

(09-13-2023 08:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

He’s not getting fired until he has a losing season

(09-13-2023 10:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 08:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

He’s not getting fired until he has a losing season

With the type of schedule we play with the type of conference we are in, the chances of having a losing season is pretty slim. If we do have a losing season, we have definitely hit rock bottom.

(09-13-2023 10:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 08:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

He’s not getting fired until he has a losing season

Agreed. Players love him. Boosters aren’t interested in buying him out.

6-6 with a bowl game keeps him here, I think. We’ll see.

(09-13-2023 10:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 08:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

He’s not getting fired until he has a losing season

Probably true.

But here is next year's non-conference home slate:

08/31 - North Alabama
09/07 - Troy
09/28 - Middle Tennessee

Add that to the poo poo platter of an AAC without SMU, Houston, Cincy and UCF, and whoever our conference home opponents are, our home schedule is going to blow chunks.

If season tickets sold fall under 10K, somebody has to take the fall.

(09-13-2023 10:39 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 10:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 08:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  He won't be fired if he wins 8 pre bowl.

He’s not getting fired until he has a losing season

Probably true.

But here is next year's non-conference home slate:

08/31 - North Alabama
09/07 - Troy
09/28 - Middle Tennessee

Add that to the poo poo platter of an AAC without SMU, Houston, Cincy and UCF, and whoever our conference home opponents are, our home schedule is going to blow chunks.

If season tickets sold fall under 10K, somebody has to take the fall.

Depends on what the buyout would be

(09-13-2023 10:39 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If season tickets sold fall under 10K, somebody has to take the fall.

I agree. That could hurt him even with having an above .500 season.

(09-13-2023 10:50 AM)Alanda Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 10:39 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If season tickets sold fall under 10K, somebody has to take the fall.

I agree. That could hurt him even with having an above .500 season.

Kind of like Tubby winning 21 games and getting fired. Then we find out that attendance had fallen to like 6,200 per game.

I'm fine with Silverfield, so not hoping for him to be fired. But apathy could set in.

Throw the record out the door, because with the watered down scheduling it's misleading.

I use the measuring stick as, what would happen if we played a middle of the road SEC team? Last year, Mississippi State showed everyone what a Ryan Silvervfields team is all about. My gut tells me Missouri will do the same.

No playmakers anymore. Calvin Austin isn't here to save Silverfields. No excitement. No hope for winning league championships. But he'll get you 7-8 wins against a high school schedule.

I've think that 6-6 gets him fired, 7-5 is a lets see.

(09-13-2023 10:59 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  Throw the record out the door, because with the watered down scheduling it's misleading.

I use the measuring stick as, what would happen if we played a middle of the road SEC team? Last year, Mississippi State showed everyone what a Ryan Silvervfields team is all about. My gut tells me Missouri will do the same.

No playmakers anymore. Calvin Austin isn't here to save Silverfields. No excitement. No hope for winning league championships. But he'll get you 7-8 wins against a high school schedule.

And did not a Silverfield coached team beat Miss State in 2021?
Seth is a 3rd year QB that is showing plenty of exitement for me, but you do you.

I think another concern the fan base has with Silverfield is how he was hired.

The administration used a search firm to identify up-and-comers Fuente & Norvell, and had great success with both of these hires. The impression I got was that the administration hired Silverfield after Norvell left in 2019 to keep the team focused & together for the Cotton Bowl. The Cotton Bowl was as high-profile a game as we've played in, so I get the need for continuity. However, in hindsight, this decision may have been a bit short-sighted.

With Fickel on the rise at Cincinnati, UCF hiring Malzahn, and losing Gainwell during the Covid year, our run of AAC title games was probably due to end. However, looking at the "big picture", I do think the decision to name a "player-popular" coach vs. using a search firm may not have been the best move from a long term perspective.

Not to say we won't have a good year. Win 3 of the next 4 games and we're set up for a great season, and opinions will change about Silverfield.

(09-13-2023 09:38 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 08:50 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 07:46 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Missouri, Boise, Tulane, SMU

3 at home, Missouri in StL

At this point all other opponents look Charmin soft.

Anything less than 10-2 would be bad.

He can literally lose all 4 of those, go 8-4 - and there are some on here that would be ready to extend his contract and throw him a parade...

If you're at a school with an all time winning rate of .496 and you have a .667 season then 99.9% of those schools will give you an extension.

You're not going to get another Norvell level coach to take this job.

So stop using him for a measuring stick.

Not a single coach in Memphis history would be able to match up.

Spook and Norvell are the only coaches that have stayed at Memphis over 3 years that have a better record.

And only 5 in the entire history of the program have a better record.

Here's another tidbit fir you Norvell NEVER won a bowl game at Memphis.

His ONLY post season win was AAC title game.

Silverfield's ONLY post season loss was with Norvell's last team.

This is certainly an example of isolating a specific stat to support a point.

Personally, I'll take a conference championship win over a bowl win any day.

His ONLY post season win was ACC title game. How many conference championship game wins do we have in football?

(09-13-2023 08:50 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(09-13-2023 07:46 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Missouri, Boise, Tulane, SMU

3 at home, Missouri in StL

At this point all other opponents look Charmin soft.

Anything less than 10-2 would be bad.

He can literally lose all 4 of those, go 8-4 - and there are some on here that would be ready to extend his contract and throw him a parade...

If you're at a school with an all time winning rate of .496 and you have a .667 season then 99.9% of those schools will give you an extension.

You're not going to get another Norvell level coach to take this job.

So stop using him for a measuring stick.

Not a single coach in Memphis history would be able to match up.

Spook and Norvell are the only coaches that have stayed at Memphis over 3 years that have a better record.

And only 5 in the entire history of the program have a better record.

Here's another tidbit fir you Norvell NEVER won a bowl game at Memphis.

His ONLY post season win was AAC title game.

Silverfield's ONLY post season loss was with Norvell's last team.

What I said ONLY applies to this season.

It just sets up beautifully.

3-year starting junior at QB

EXTREMELY favorable schedule with zero 'tough' games as true road games.

He can drop 2 of Missouri, Boise (home), Tulane (home), and SMU (home) and go 10-2.

A boatload of injuries to key players including the QB would obviously change things.

Other years would be different and have to be evaluated on their own merits.