As an upstart football (and athletics) program, Lincoln has been popping up on a number of NAIA, D2 and FCS schedules the past few seasons. They are a “go anywhere” program that is likely funding themselves with guarantees.

This season, they are keeping it respectable in some ways.

Versus NAIA College of Idaho, they lost 37-7, but it was a 17-7 game at the half, and Lincoln put up 328 yards compared to 416 for C of I. Lincoln had 18 first downs. The score wasn’t close, but Lincoln is a real football team who can play.

Next they played at D2 Adams State in Colorado. The Oaklanders scored first (which may be a first for them?). 7-7 at the end of the first. 14-10 Adams at the half. Final was 35-16. Lincoln had 347 yard, versus 440 for Adams. 27 first downs. The Adams State lead was 21-16 with until they scored twice in the final 6 minutes, so definitely very much in contention until the end.

Versus D2 Western Oregon, Lincoln got down 23-0 at the half. Final was 29-14. But again, not some 77-0 blowout or something. It’s a very new, unaffiliated program with almost no funding and no home field and no home games ever, versus an established D2 program at a state university. 292 yards offense versus 372 and 16 first downs for the Oaklanders. Their 11 penalties really hurt them.

Maybe they can join the 2Pac as a backfill for USC.

Not trying to make Lincoln University out to be better than they are, but just paying a little respect to the coaches and players there who are in the early years of trying to build a program.

Going forward in their season, we are going to see them on the FCS scoreboard more often and some of those losses might be bad. But against more similar opponents, Lincoln and it’s tiny roster and no money are steadily becoming competitive.

I enjoy following upstarts, and non traditional athletic departments. It’s fun to see what they can do on a shoestring versus these schools spending millions and with lots of advantages. Some others I follow have been North American and Virginia-Lynchburg.

Most fans of schools they will play this season have never heard of them, they will be listed incorrectly as NAIA or D2 frequently as well. But I thought it was worth a post to explain who they are a little and kind of set the tone for some of their future losses. They’re building the program, they are available every week to go anywhere and serve as a likely home win for the local fans, but they’re still coaches and players out there doing their best.

Coming up Lincoln has-
9-16 Cal Poly
9-23 Lamar
9-30 Texas Southern
10-7 New Haven
10-14 Southern University
10-21 Tennessee State
10-28 Kennesaw State
11-4 Southern Utah
11-11 Florida A&M

Thanks for reading.

Lincoln CA. seems to be connected with the two Lincoln schools in the NCAA. The college in Oakland is mainly black. They have been around for close to 100 years. They are regionally accredited. They just recently added sports, and they want to join NCAA D2 in the future. They are picking up good money playing D1 schools in football, basketball and all that.

This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

There you go David St., here's your blueprint on starting your own university. You can start at USCAA and move all the way up to FBS.

(09-12-2023 02:31 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

There you go David St., here's your blueprint on starting your own university. You can start at USCAA and move all the way up to FBS.

School founded in 1919.
Students made up of mostly of International students from Asian countries and former Russian states. Also locals from the bay area of the minority types. There are few whites.
Some of the players on the football team seemed to come from out of the country. China, Japan, and that area of the world have colleges that do play tackle American football. That includes Australia.

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

So you think the coach is getting the money from these guarantee games? I’ll just bet the money is going to fund the program, just like at every other school that plays guarantee games.

I’d say they are about like any other school who starts sports to boost enrollment. They are typically small, don’t have many facilities, and are looking to take a step up.

They have practice facilities. That’s all that matters. No one is going to travel to play them anyway, so they don’t need home game facilities.

How do you know that is the only building? But what if it is? What does that have to with their football program?

I don’t know why you take such a nasty tone about the school. Not one thing about the school is unique to them.

Their website says they are in something called the Southwest States Conference but I couldn’t find any online presence for the conference. (Kept getting hits for SWAC and SWC). It also said they had basketball and soccer but not any information about the teams.

They also said they hosted a pro day for football and the 49ers and Steelers came. I’m guessing it was just something they had for small college players, not sure why the Steelers sent someone.

I wish them well but playing an FCS team transitioning to FBS (coupled with the cross country trip) is going to be ugly.

(09-12-2023 05:08 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Their website says they are in something called the Southwest States Conference but I couldn’t find any online presence for the conference. (Kept getting hits for SWAC and SWC). It also said they had basketball and soccer but not any information about the teams.

They also said they hosted a pro day for football and the 49ers and Steelers came. I’m guessing it was just something they had for small college players, not sure why the Steelers sent someone.

I wish them well but playing an FCS team transitioning to FBS (coupled with the cross country trip) is going to be ugly.

Yes, for basketball and soccer they are in the Southwestern States Conference. Fortunately, the travel is relatively light and it helps them fill schedules during the time everyone else is playing in conference. It’s a perfect home for an unaffiliated school.

Fortunately, they seem to try to schedule some winnable games as well as the money games, at least to the extent possible. Their first season, 2021, their only win was D3 Willamette. Last season, they won 2 games, a 70-0 win at D3 Hilbert, and a 20-17 win at D2 Bluefield State. If they were in a location that had available teams to schedule, they could have had a respectable first couple of seasons. If not for their guarantee games, they simply could not build a schedule being in California. There just aren’t teams available. And that would go for most any other school trying to start up athletics there as well.

(09-12-2023 05:08 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Their website says they are in something called the Southwest States Conference but I couldn’t find any online presence for the conference. (Kept getting hits for SWAC and SWC). It also said they had basketball and soccer but not any information about the teams.

They also said they hosted a pro day for football and the 49ers and Steelers came. I’m guessing it was just something they had for small college players, not sure why the Steelers sent someone.

I wish them well but playing an FCS team transitioning to FBS (coupled with the cross country trip) is going to be ugly.

SWS Is an Independent sports league on the west coast. Justice College could apply to the NAIA soon as they got approved to join NCCAA this year. Same with Stanton College. Justice is in Arizona and Stanton is in California.

Lincoln University versus Cal Poly

Lincoln came out hot and took a 20-7 lead early in the 2nd quarter. But 2 Cal Poly scores late in the quarter ended Lincoln’s momentum and Lincoln went into the half down 27-20.

Most of the third quarter remained 27-20 however, until Cal Poly scored twice in the final 3:40 of quarter 3. That sealed the scoring, and the final was 41-20.

Overall, good showing versus an FCS program. Lincoln held CP to 46 yards rushing, and only 1 rushing first down. Lincoln’s problems were 2 costly interceptions and a secondary that gave up too many big passing plays. At the line they were stiff though. But Lincoln continued to be very highly penalized, with 11 for 82 yards in this game. But that’s part of building an independent program from scratch.

Next week they travel to 0-3 Lamar.

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

It's not on the most recent list, Stugray, and I'm shocked that you didn't see who was added to the list recently. It's an HBCU in my home state, one that I'm sure wouldn't shock JRsec to see on HCM: Alabama State University. To see them on there doesn't really shock me either, but I'm surprised that you didn't mention ASU, Stugray. ASU has had financial problems for years, and has been the scene of a huge power struggle between various factions of the board, Joe Reed, and the Alabama State Legislature.

(09-17-2023 01:16 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

It's not on the most recent list, Stugray, and I'm shocked that you didn't see who was added to the list recently. It's an HBCU in my home state, one that I'm sure wouldn't shock JRsec to see on HCM: Alabama State University. To see them on there doesn't really shock me either, but I'm surprised that you didn't mention ASU, Stugray. ASU has had financial problems for years, and has been the scene of a huge power struggle between various factions of the board, Joe Reed, and the Alabama State Legislature.

Sure, they may not be now, but if Lincoln was on the list in 2019, their football scores shouldn’t be reported

(09-17-2023 02:15 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 01:16 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(09-12-2023 02:24 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This building in Oakland is the entire university (not sure that is the only thing in the building, might be some other businesses). It claims 573 students, including online.


This is nothing but a front for a coach to put teams out to collect appearance money as a victim. There are no facilities, no endowment. It is on the U.S. Department of Education's Federal Student Aid (FSA) "List of Institutions on Heightened Cash Monitoring as of December 1, 2019."

It's not on the most recent list, Stugray, and I'm shocked that you didn't see who was added to the list recently. It's an HBCU in my home state, one that I'm sure wouldn't shock JRsec to see on HCM: Alabama State University. To see them on there doesn't really shock me either, but I'm surprised that you didn't mention ASU, Stugray. ASU has had financial problems for years, and has been the scene of a huge power struggle between various factions of the board, Joe Reed, and the Alabama State Legislature.

Sure, they may not be now, but if Lincoln was on the list in 2019, their football scores shouldn’t be reported

Lincoln Cal. is not any of the list not to play since they do have regional accreditations. THEY would be accepted in NAIA asap.

Here’s another example of bad reporting about Lincoln. The local paper for Cal Poly is reporting Lincoln as D2 school. They are probably getting their info from the athletic department who doesn’t want to explain what Lincoln is because they are sort of an anomaly.

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/col...83764.html

I think part of the value of scheduling Lincoln is that they are not a local D3 or NAIA school. And those are some of the few wins a lot of low level FCS that are nearly guaranteed. It’s worse optics for them to play a local low level school. Lincoln is more of an unknown to the casual fan and schools don’t want to give the appearance they are so similar to lower level teams. Cal Poly is the only semi local team Lincoln has played in the first 3 years.

Lincoln California said their goals is to get to NCAA D2. The problem is some writers caught that and ran with it that they are in D2.

It’s hard to explain what they are because they really aren’t anything. The problem is 30 years ago you could schedule them and if the paper says they are D2 or NAIA you take their word for it because it is hard for the average person to find something like that out.

Today anyone can look them up and your local university looks bad playing someone like this.

(09-17-2023 08:13 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  It’s hard to explain what they are because they really aren’t anything. The problem is 30 years ago you could schedule them and if the paper says they are D2 or NAIA you take their word for it because it is hard for the average person to find something like that out.

Today anyone can look them up and your local university looks bad playing someone like this.

Some papers and websites in the past called College of Faith D2 or NAIA when they were not a real school. Lincoln is a real school, and not a fake like College of Faith was. Which is more embarrassing? Beating a team that is from a real accredited college, or beat a team that is i fraud of a school like College of Faith?

It's hard putting those fantasy realignment scenarios away at any point in the year... even on NYD.