(09-17-2023 03:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 03:14 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 02:51 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 02:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-02-2023 10:27 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  A stadium 1 mile from campus isn’t keeping us out. We aren’t wanted. If our athletic department isn’t trying their best to get in the MWC right now. They should all be fired.

2 miles from campus. If you are going to talk about it, get it correct.

That extra mile does it?

Interesting...

Our off-campus stadium is 1.8 miles away, as the crow flies.

And our not-on-main-campus football practice facilities are only 1.03 miles away.

It's not "our" stadium. The same city that can't manage the city, can't limit violent crime & can't run an education system, owns & manages the stadium.

Lol

(09-18-2023 05:33 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 03:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 03:14 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 02:51 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 02:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  2 miles from campus. If you are going to talk about it, get it correct.

That extra mile does it?

Interesting...

Our off-campus stadium is 1.8 miles away, as the crow flies.

And our not-on-main-campus football practice facilities are only 1.03 miles away.

It's not "our" stadium. The same city that can't manage the city, can't limit violent crime & can't run an education system, owns & manages the stadium.

Lol

It's not "our" car or house until we pay it off, but we still use "our" or "my" to refer to them.

And even though we (the university) don't "own" the stadium we are the primary tenant. If we stopped using it what would happen to it?


But then again, I am a taxpayer of the state of Tennessee and Shelby County. I have been a taxpayer of the City of Memphis in the past and I contribute sales and gas tax to the city.

That means I have a stake in both the university and the municipal stadium.

So I think I'm OK with saying "our" stadium.

(09-19-2023 05:18 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 05:33 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 03:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 03:14 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 02:51 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  That extra mile does it?

Interesting...

Our off-campus stadium is 1.8 miles away, as the crow flies.

And our not-on-main-campus football practice facilities are only 1.03 miles away.

It's not "our" stadium. The same city that can't manage the city, can't limit violent crime & can't run an education system, owns & manages the stadium.

Lol

It's not "our" car or house until we pay it off, but we still use "our" or "my" to refer to them.

And even though we (the university) don't "own" the stadium we are the primary tenant. If we stopped using it what would happen to it?


But then again, I am a taxpayer of the state of Tennessee and Shelby County. I have been a taxpayer of the City of Memphis in the past and I contribute sales and gas tax to the city.

That means I have a stake in both the university and the municipal stadium.

So I think I'm OK with saying "our" stadium.

Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

(09-19-2023 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 05:18 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 05:33 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 03:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-14-2023 03:14 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Interesting...

Our off-campus stadium is 1.8 miles away, as the crow flies.

And our not-on-main-campus football practice facilities are only 1.03 miles away.

It's not "our" stadium. The same city that can't manage the city, can't limit violent crime & can't run an education system, owns & manages the stadium.

Lol

It's not "our" car or house until we pay it off, but we still use "our" or "my" to refer to them.

And even though we (the university) don't "own" the stadium we are the primary tenant. If we stopped using it what would happen to it?


But then again, I am a taxpayer of the state of Tennessee and Shelby County. I have been a taxpayer of the City of Memphis in the past and I contribute sales and gas tax to the city.

That means I have a stake in both the university and the municipal stadium.

So I think I'm OK with saying "our" stadium.

Ok but conflating our university & the city as one & the same has been part of the problem for years.

Honestly, I think that has been more of a push by the university.

It's been noted on national broadcasts about how unique it is for a college sports program to talk about representing the city.

UofM pushes it in both football and basketball -- we are Memphis, 901, we just want to win it for the city, etc.

Maybe it was a conscious effort in an attempt to brand itself and hopefully draw more support from citizens and from government.

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  "our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

You keep missing the point. No one is confused by the ownership of the stadium. When people say "our stadium" they're referring to the fact that the school plays in the stadium, just like people say "my apartment" or "my hotel room" when they own neither. Regarding your car analogy, aside from the fact that it's sad you have to finance in the first place when last year you claimed you could donate a million to the school, but how is that even relevant to what you replied to? Are you confused by the concept of leasing a vehicle and how people refer to said leased vehicle as "my car?" In none of those cases are people under the illusion that they own anything.

So clarify, please. Are you really this slow or are you being intellectually dishonest again?

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  "our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

Post of the year

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

its a foreman

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

Back when I was the age that most of my friends had apartments, they kept charcoal grills on the patio. Guessing that is no longer the case? Some nicer apartments have communal grills.

Anyway, point stands. No one that isn't just trying to be a jerk is going to tell someone "his" apartment isn't really his, even though he lives there.

(09-20-2023 02:14 PM)ballhog Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

Post of the year

Not really. You can have a gas grill on your little balcony, lol. No charcoal though.

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:09 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 07:49 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 11:58 PM)msu35 Wrote:  I don't believe many make that mistake, certainly no one I have ever known.

"our stadium" seems to contract your view.

Not at all. Intellectual dishonesty is a cheap tactic and you know it. Do you not understand that when a person leases, they still refer to their residence or their vehicle as "my apartment" or "my car?"

With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Good one

(09-20-2023 02:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

Back when I was the age that most of my friends had apartments, they kept charcoal grills on the patio. Guessing that is no longer the case? Some nicer apartments have communal grills.

Anyway, point stands. No one that isn't just trying to be a jerk is going to tell someone "his" apartment isn't really his, even though he lives there.

I am going to take, what is sarcasm for $100...

(09-20-2023 02:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:30 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 10:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  With my financed car, I hold a title subject to a lien. We hold no title to the city's stadium & like both of your example we don't manage the property either. It's not "our stadium". We even plays 2nd fiddle on availability to the SHC game & to the Grizzlies for FEF. We simply pay rent to play in municipal facilities.

Atlanta's Social Interactions... A play in one part.

RandomFriend: Hey, let's go back to my apartment and watch the game. I've got a 90" TV. I'll grill up some burgers and we can make a day of it.

Atlanta: You know it's not your apartment. You don't hold a title to the building. You simply pay rent to be allowed to live there.

RandomFriend: Nevermind. Hey, anyone else want to go back to my apartment to watch the game?

Post of the year

not really, there is no landlord that is going to let you grill burgers in an apartment.

Back when I was the age that most of my friends had apartments, they kept charcoal grills on the patio. Guessing that is no longer the case? Some nicer apartments have communal grills.

Anyway, point stands. No one that isn't just trying to be a jerk is going to tell someone "his" apartment isn't really his, even though he lives there.

I'm just telling all of you guys who are satisfied renting a municipal facility, it's not our stadium, we just rent it by the game. Rationalize if all you want to feel good about our forever subservience to the city but we all know it's not OUR stadium anymore than it is the SHC's or the LB game or the minor league pro team that also rents. But be as delusional as needed.

(09-21-2023 10:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I'm just telling all of you guys who are satisfied renting a municipal facility, it's not our stadium, we just rent it by the game. Rationalize if all you want to feel good about our forever subservience to the city but we all know it's not OUR stadium anymore than it is the SHC's or the LB game or the minor league pro team that also rents. But be as delusional as needed.

Considering this is the model successfully used by every single professional major league sports franchise in the United States, must not be too bad. No sense in buying when you're offered a lease at rock bottom rates.