A big win for Jack Swarbrick, personally.

He put his reputation on the line by advocating for this expansion and got his desired result.

(09-01-2023 07:36 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 07:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The B1G orders a filet mignon.

The B12 gets a nice T-bone.

The ACC gets a sack of White Castles at the drive thru.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Bear Catlett gets a Salt Mine

^^^^

Coming from the guy who said we were second class citizens for taking a half B12 share for a couple of years.

And Stanford and Cal rejected the B12 for the opportunity to sleep on Florida State's couch, huh? Riiiiiight.

(09-01-2023 08:04 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 07:57 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  Let's see where these 17.5 "ACC schools" are aligned in Fall 2026.

This is gonna collapse quicker than a Britney Spears marriage

The big question I now have Pete is if the SEC takes the three no votes who is #4 or is someone slipping over to the ACC to keep the SEC at a profitable 18?

Options:
1. 2022 rumors were true and #4 is Miami
2. N.C. State voted for because they are coming with UNC anyway.
3. It's about the value added so it will be either Virginia or Virginia Tech.
4. 2011's promise comes home to roost and it's Duke for #4
5. ESPN protects all of Atlanta and it's Georgia Tech
6. Kansas for balance.

It'll be fun to see if first they are all headed to the SEC, and second who comes next.

So besides schools in the SEC or BIG10 (or the 3 presumably incoming schools), who would you list as the next top 3 football schools in the country?

Interesting, now you’ll will have Clemson, Florida State and UNC playing conference games in DFW. Deep in SEC territory.

You have Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma State playing conference in Houston. Also SEC territory.


Wonder how the SEC reacts to the ACC move. DFW should be be their sacred ground.

Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

If those 3 leave, I think Memphis would be a good backfill option, right along with USF, and UConn.

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

Correct it has to do with money.

(09-01-2023 08:12 AM)Acres Wrote:  Interesting, now you’ll will have Clemson, Florida State and UNC playing conference games in DFW. Deep in SEC territory.

You have Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma State playing conflates in Houston. Also SEC territory.


Wonder how the SEC reacts to the ACC move. DFW should be be their sacred ground.

SEC won't react to the ACC move. They don't care one iota about SMU. UT/OU/aTm cover Dallas at 10x the coverage of SMU.

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

That only just dawned on you?

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

lol you sweet summer child.

In 2021….the Big 12 took biggest universities (Cincy, UCF, Houston) we were told. Memphis just missed the cut. Nothing but respect to those schools. Those are our best peers.

2023 - Big takes 4 corners…no issue there.

2023 - ACC takes 3….but they want the most prestigious selections. Stanford and Cal are horrible and football and basketball. SMU has never won anything in AAC.

This feels like you’re in AAA baseball and you have a higher batting average, more home runs, better stats……and they pull up the guy next to you to the MLB team who is underperforming but was the higher draft pick.

(09-01-2023 08:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

lol you sweet summer child.

LMAO

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

If you want to join them, pay up! That's all it takes.

(09-01-2023 07:18 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 07:12 AM)TopperCard Wrote:  Like I said in another thread, that statement from the UNC BOT's was a "for the record" statement.

They aren’t happy with NC State for flipping.

I thought Clemson would flip with them.

This result is less fun! With Stanford and Cal dangling, it gives more permutations for what happens next.

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

You just figured that out?

It's always been about the Benjamins.

(09-01-2023 08:25 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

That only just dawned on you?

I have always viewed realignment as a ladder approach. Some schools higher on the ladder, some below when you take all criteria in.

Watching Cincy, Houston, UCF…..those were schools who were alongside Memphis at the top of the AAC year after year. They were on the same level of the ladder as you…or really close.

SMU….has never been better in football/basketball. They are lower on the success ladder than Memphis in primary sports. So yea, watching them get promoted is maybe even tougher.

(09-01-2023 08:10 AM)TerryD Wrote:  A big win for Jack Swarbrick, personally.

He put his reputation on the line by advocating for this expansion and got his desired result.

If N.D. ever has to be in a conference Swarbrick wants it to be one he built just for Notre Dame.

Also interesting….did SMU just set a new G5 precedent to moving up?

If you want to come into our P4 league you have to take no money for a LONG time.

(09-01-2023 08:18 AM)Boots Wrote:  Not going to lie…this is sickening as Memphis fan to watch SMU get called up.

In last 10 years in the AAC….SMU never played in AAC championship football game. Memphis played in 3.

In last 30 years…SMU made 2 NCAA basketball tournaments. Memphis made 14.

In football, Memphis attendance many years has been 2x SMU. In basketball it is a 4x.

Let that sink in.

This has nothing to do with winning more, better attendance, ratings, etc.

I feel your pain. SMU can be compared to an undergraduate student getting an 'unpaid internship' in their chosen field.

At first glance, people worry that the student is being exploited because they work for free.

After a closer look, people learn that most of these students are from affluent families. That's who can afford to go unpaid while gaining a career advantage. Their classmates who really need the money don't apply for the internship. They have jobs in restaurants and bookstores.

Things will work out for Memphis. You see how often the Tigers are mentioned. They will get their call up.

The race is not always to the swift.

(09-01-2023 08:12 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 08:04 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-01-2023 07:57 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  Let's see where these 17.5 "ACC schools" are aligned in Fall 2026.

This is gonna collapse quicker than a Britney Spears marriage

The big question I now have Pete is if the SEC takes the three no votes who is #4 or is someone slipping over to the ACC to keep the SEC at a profitable 18?

Options:
1. 2022 rumors were true and #4 is Miami
2. N.C. State voted for because they are coming with UNC anyway.
3. It's about the value added so it will be either Virginia or Virginia Tech.
4. 2011's promise comes home to roost and it's Duke for #4
5. ESPN protects all of Atlanta and it's Georgia Tech
6. Kansas for balance.

It'll be fun to see if first they are all headed to the SEC, and second who comes next.

So besides schools in the SEC or BIG10 (or the 3 presumably incoming schools), who would you list as the next top 3 football schools in the country?

Miami (history, potential, location)
Virginia Tech (passion & support of fan base makes it A&M like)
Utah (consistency in attendance and performance)