Quote:According to our Aug. 24-27 survey, 62% of potential primary voters said they think Trump has the best chance of beating the Democratic incumbent. That is up 9 percentage points over the previous week, and matches a high in Morning Consult’s tracking of the question since April.

Their belief tracks with the Republican front-runner’s continued standing against Biden in a head-to-head test among the overall electorate. Despite his escalating legal troubles, which he’s embraced with his campaign’s monetization of his mug shot, our daily tracking shows that Trump continues to poll neck-and-neck against Biden while Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis trails the incumbent.

On that note, just 13% of voters who indicated they plan to vote in a Republican primary or caucus in their state said DeSantis is most electable against Biden — matching a tracking low — while the share who said the same of entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy fell from 10% to 6% following his high-profile appearance in the debate.

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/...ebate-poll

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Pre-mug shot polls showed Trump with 20% of the black vote, up from 6% from 4 years ago.

I'd be interested to see that number post-mug shot.

(08-30-2023 11:23 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

That was the poll I was referring to. He's up from 8%. I said 6% in my post above.

But those numbers are from before the mug shot, right? It says the numbers are from 8/14. I don't remember what day that came out.

(08-30-2023 09:49 AM)green Wrote:  

Quote:According to our Aug. 24-27 survey, 62% of potential primary voters said they think Trump has the best chance of beating the Democratic incumbent. That is up 9 percentage points over the previous week, and matches a high in Morning Consult’s tracking of the question since April.

Their belief tracks with the Republican front-runner’s continued standing against Biden in a head-to-head test among the overall electorate. Despite his escalating legal troubles, which he’s embraced with his campaign’s monetization of his mug shot, our daily tracking shows that Trump continues to poll neck-and-neck against Biden while Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis trails the incumbent.

On that note, just 13% of voters who indicated they plan to vote in a Republican primary or caucus in their state said DeSantis is most electable against Biden — matching a tracking low — while the share who said the same of entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy fell from 10% to 6% following his high-profile appearance in the debate.

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/...ebate-poll

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Pretty clear Trump made the right choice passing on debate #1. Seems the more folks see of the alternatives----the better Trump looks.

Something tells me Trump won’t be the nominee. Mike Pence said something about Trump that I thought was odd….

“I remain confident, more confident after Wednesday night, that the Republican nominee will not be the former president, …..”

What happened Wednesday to increase Pence confidence?

(08-30-2023 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Something tells me Trump won’t be the nominee. Mike Pence said something about Trump that I thought was odd….

“I remain confident, more confident after Wednesday night, that the Republican nominee will not be the former president, …..”

What happened Wednesday to increase Pence confidence?

The jury verdict in that upcoming March trial was probably already leaked.

(08-30-2023 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Something tells me Trump won’t be the nominee. Mike Pence said something about Trump that I thought was odd….

“I remain confident, more confident after Wednesday night, that the Republican nominee will not be the former president, …..”

What happened Wednesday to increase Pence confidence? Debate

WHY THE LONG FACE

(08-30-2023 08:51 PM)green Wrote:  Debate

There is absolutely no way anyone, not even the most twisted leftist, sitting at home in their heels and panties, with a straight razor contemplating cutting their testicles off, could watch that travesty and come to that conclusion.

I’ve watched middle school debate contests and gleamed more information from them than I did that clown show.

If that debate proved anything, it proved without a doubt, that no time in our Nation’s history, have we been without competent leadership from either so-called party.

There is no candidate from either party I feel comfortable placing in the White House at this critical time and that includes DJT.

It’s no wonder both parties are scared to death of DJT. It’s sad to think the only person, not politician, willing to step forward to lead is a guy, who has proven he can do the job, but chooses to act like a pestilent child with a Twitter account.

(08-30-2023 08:43 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The jury verdict in that upcoming March trial was probably already leaked.

Sad someone could write that in jest and and anyone reading it would not be able to tell if the writer was being facetious or not.

Crazy to think beyond a planned assassination, from the CIA, FBI or either political party, that would be the most logical answer.

Quote:Former President Donald Trump, blaming President Joe Biden for the indictments he's facing, says he'll have "no choice" when it comes to jailing political opponents if he's elected as president, as "they're doing it to us."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-...d/1132571/

FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE

(08-31-2023 03:11 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 08:51 PM)green Wrote:  Debate

There is absolutely no way anyone, not even the most twisted leftist, sitting at home in their heels and panties, with a straight razor contemplating cutting their testicles off, could watch that travesty and come to that conclusion.

I’ve watched middle school debate contests and gleamed more information from them than I did that clown show.

If that debate proved anything, it proved without a doubt, that no time in our Nation’s history, have we been without competent leadership from either so-called party.

There is no candidate from either party I feel comfortable placing in the White House at this critical time and that includes DJT.

It’s no wonder both parties are scared to death of DJT. It’s sad to think the only person, not politician, willing to step forward to lead is a guy, who has proven he can do the job, but chooses to act like a pestilent child with a Twitter account.

Damn, now he's pestilent?? LOL, I believe you meant petulant, at least I hope so. I don't want me no pestilent POTUS either!

Unlike you, and while I largely agree with the sentiment about "There is no candidate from either party..." I can only think of one among them who has shown the ability to lead America in a manner that reflects concern for ALL of her citizens.

It's like people have completely forgotten how well this country was doing in so many different ways before the plandemic was introduced and his presidency was sabotaged.

I guess the MSM did its job exceedingly well.

(08-31-2023 04:32 AM)green Wrote:  

Quote:Former President Donald Trump, blaming President Joe Biden for the indictments he's facing, says he'll have "no choice" when it comes to jailing political opponents if he's elected as president, as "they're doing it to us."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-...d/1132571/

FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE

If that's true then his first order of business is to fire Garland but he'd better have a worthwhile replacement. I'm not sure such a person exists within the beltway anymore.

(08-31-2023 06:50 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 03:11 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 08:51 PM)green Wrote:  Debate

There is absolutely no way anyone, not even the most twisted leftist, sitting at home in their heels and panties, with a straight razor contemplating cutting their testicles off, could watch that travesty and come to that conclusion.

I’ve watched middle school debate contests and gleamed more information from them than I did that clown show.

If that debate proved anything, it proved without a doubt, that no time in our Nation’s history, have we been without competent leadership from either so-called party.

There is no candidate from either party I feel comfortable placing in the White House at this critical time and that includes DJT.

It’s no wonder both parties are scared to death of DJT. It’s sad to think the only person, not politician, willing to step forward to lead is a guy, who has proven he can do the job, but chooses to act like a pestilent child with a Twitter account.

Damn, now he's pestilent?? LOL, I believe you meant petulant, at least I hope so. I don't want me no pestilent POTUS either!

Unlike you, and while I largely agree with the sentiment about "There is no candidate from either party..." I can only think of one among them who has shown the ability to lead America in a manner that reflects concern for ALL of her citizens.

It's like people have completely forgotten how well this country was doing in so many different ways before the plandemic was introduced and his presidency was sabotaged.

I guess the MSM did its job exceedingly well.

I understand democrats to buy into everything the media has feed them. Its a damn shame that republican do it also.

Until covid was released almost every American was better off that CHOSE to be. Some you cannot help. Not just rich people. Not just white people. Not just middle age people. But every American that made the effort to help themselves had it fairly good. Not only that but Trump was making some historical changes that a 2nd term and the correct person elected after his 2nd term. Could have change this country for the next 50 years.

Dont understand republicans just whitewashing that....

well actually I do a lot care more about how a person says something than what they actually do or at least try to do. So are republicans any different than democrats. Well I wont go that far but a lot of republicans would still rather have a person to say the correct thing the correct way and then go about doing nothing.

Jr. made a point about Trump failing to reach across the isle to the democrats that don't believe this progressive shite. You can't work with anyone when they are trying to throw you out of office with Russia Russia Russia before you even enter the White House. I'm sure there were some democrats that did not believe but not one of them was going to speak out over their leadership.

I believe Trump would have done just that if it was a possibility because a large party of those republicans were also trying to remove the President....

till about 6 to 9 months in when they saw that around 85% of republican voters backed Trump. Then they started to change course publicly. Like I said I expect democrats to buy into everything the party and the media says about Trump.....

it seems like a lot of republican have also and those same people will then call out the democrats for believing the lies.

(08-31-2023 06:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  If that's true then his first order of business is to fire Garland but he'd better have a worthwhile replacement. I'm not sure such a person exists within the beltway anymore.

I hear many people say that Trump chose his staff badly, but in all honestly, did he have much of anyone worthwhile to choose from?

(08-31-2023 03:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 06:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  If that's true then his first order of business is to fire Garland but he'd better have a worthwhile replacement. I'm not sure such a person exists within the beltway anymore.

I hear many people say that Trump chose his staff badly, but in all honestly, did he have much of anyone worthwhile to choose from?

The fact is he had to take advice from politicians and Trump did not believe or understand the level of "protection" he was facing from all groups. Anyone else in his position would have had to do the same. He made bad hires but all presidents have also. Trumps were worse because of what he was facing....a 100% made up lie and a coup attempt from RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

The same with COVID, no other person was going to fire, the evil assshole. When everyone is telling you 50 million people way die from COVID. The media, democrats and even republicans (at the start and most of the way through) would have impeached him. Its not like there was a play book to follow other than the one America had in place.

(08-31-2023 03:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 06:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  If that's true then his first order of business is to fire Garland but he'd better have a worthwhile replacement. I'm not sure such a person exists within the beltway anymore.

I hear many people say that Trump chose his staff badly, but in all honestly, did he have much of anyone worthwhile to choose from?

And who could he trust for sage political advice? He was in a bit of a catch 22 as a political rookie.

As a "Christian" Pence should remember that lying in order to benefit is a sin. How does he know that which he stated? If he's just doing a Schiff then he isn't any better than that lying Schiff.

(08-30-2023 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Something tells me Trump won’t be the nominee. Mike Pence said something about Trump that I thought was odd….

“I remain confident, more confident after Wednesday night, that the Republican nominee will not be the former president, …..”

What happened Wednesday to increase Pence confidence?

That was just typical politician bs spin. It meant nothing.

(08-30-2023 08:25 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Something tells me Trump won’t be the nominee. Mike Pence said something about Trump that I thought was odd….

“I remain confident, more confident after Wednesday night, that the Republican nominee will not be the former president, …..”

What happened Wednesday to increase Pence confidence?

What else is he going to say? He trails Trump by what may as well be 1000 points and has no hope of the nomination as long as Trump is in the race. Not to mention Pence just got passed in the polls by a political novice. Promoting the idea that Trump wont be the eventual nominee is Pence's only hope to keep his campaign afloat financially.