North Texas has a shot. They're at home at least. There should be a big crowd. I don't think Cal is bad at all for a private school. They recruit PAC talent. It's a toss up. Morris should have NT much improved in two years.

It was right to fire Litrell. He had to go. He had reached his ceiling

(08-31-2023 09:04 AM)Ourland Wrote:  North Texas has a shot. They're at home at least. There should be a big crowd. I don't think Cal is bad at all for a private school. They recruit PAC talent. It's a toss up. Morris should have NT much improved in two years.

It was right to fire Litrell. He had to go. He had reached his ceiling

Agree 100%. He was almost a golden boy in 2017, but hadn't delivered.

Have you guys installed a defense of any kind, yet?

(08-31-2023 09:03 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

My confidence in ECU comes from the fact that everyone replacing all positions have been in the program for several years. If the offensive line holds up, I think we will be surprising a lot of people this season.

We lost Keaton Mitchell but we are still 4 deep at his spot. 4 RBs that I truly believe could start anywhere in this conference.

Both QBs have been behind Ahlers for 3+ years and know the system well.

At WR, we lost a few key players, but once again, the players stepping in to replace them are proven and have been in the program.

Defensively, the CB position is my only question mark and I believe that the kids brought in at that position are longer and more athletic than anyone this staff has had out there. Honestly this position is the biggest ? in my eyes. I know most will say QB but I am more looking at CB.

Finally, Coach Houston has proven to be a winner and a motivator. This team is finally made up 100% of kids he recruited. I think the culture he has installed has really grown roots.

I trust his staff and this team is what it comes down to.
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Solid answer, not sure I agree with all of it but I hope you are correct.

You're missing a lot Dusky. Our defense will likely be one of, if not the best in conference. The only question marks are QB and CB. We've got a legit 8 man rotation for our DL.

(08-31-2023 09:16 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:03 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

My confidence in ECU comes from the fact that everyone replacing all positions have been in the program for several years. If the offensive line holds up, I think we will be surprising a lot of people this season.

We lost Keaton Mitchell but we are still 4 deep at his spot. 4 RBs that I truly believe could start anywhere in this conference.

Both QBs have been behind Ahlers for 3+ years and know the system well.

At WR, we lost a few key players, but once again, the players stepping in to replace them are proven and have been in the program.

Defensively, the CB position is my only question mark and I believe that the kids brought in at that position are longer and more athletic than anyone this staff has had out there. Honestly this position is the biggest ? in my eyes. I know most will say QB but I am more looking at CB.

Finally, Coach Houston has proven to be a winner and a motivator. This team is finally made up 100% of kids he recruited. I think the culture he has installed has really grown roots.

I trust his staff and this team is what it comes down to.

Solid answer, not sure I agree with all of it but I hope you are correct.
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I think we should all be more confident against P5.

I think FAU and UAB would also beat Cal.

I think Charlotte may be a year back, but what Ive heard from Michigan fans is Poggi is a culture guy and that is extremely important in this sport. I used to coach high school ball and Ive been around coaches that are culture guys and coaches that arent. The culture guys are always the winners.

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 08:22 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 05:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  "just might beat Cal"

I'm sorry UNT fans but y'all should expect to beat Cal. If not I have a lot of doubts about your addition.

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We are new around here and have not spent years amassing AAC level talent on our roster. Cal is favored in this game for a reason. Also, it would be undignified and tacky to proclaim superiority over anyone, when we have yet to do anything in this conference. I believe we can win, but will leave it at that.

If you have doubts about our addition, that fine. Personally, I believe every program should be focused on proving their value to the conference on a weekly basis. I don't want to conference with programs that are just happy to be here. The new playoff system will probably get altered, but it will still have a spot for the AAC champ if we all push each other to be among the best conferences in the FBS.

You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

That an 8-5 team, even if taking a step back, should still be able to win a home game against a 4-8 team that didn't make any big splashes on their roster since last year.

Those 4 wins from last year:
UC Davis: FCS
Arizona: 5-7
UNLV: 5-7
Stanford: 3-9

Cal was a bad team by all measurements. Can you point to anything that would make them a decent team this year? Vegas has their O/U at 5.

What am I missing?

(08-30-2023 08:22 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 05:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  "just might beat Cal"

I'm sorry UNT fans but y'all should expect to beat Cal. If not I have a lot of doubts about your addition.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk

We are new around here and have not spent years amassing AAC level talent on our roster. Cal is favored in this game for a reason. Also, it would be undignified and tacky to proclaim superiority over anyone, when we have yet to do anything in this conference. I believe we can win, but will leave it at that.

If you have doubts about our addition, that fine. Personally, I believe every program should be focused on proving their value to the conference on a weekly basis. I don't want to conference with programs that are just happy to be here. The new playoff system will probably get altered, but it will still have a spot for the AAC champ if we all push each other to be among the best conferences in the FBS.

Don't get on here talking rationally. I simply won't have it.

(08-31-2023 09:56 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 08:22 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 05:50 PM)b2b Wrote:  "just might beat Cal"

I'm sorry UNT fans but y'all should expect to beat Cal. If not I have a lot of doubts about your addition.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk

We are new around here and have not spent years amassing AAC level talent on our roster. Cal is favored in this game for a reason. Also, it would be undignified and tacky to proclaim superiority over anyone, when we have yet to do anything in this conference. I believe we can win, but will leave it at that.

If you have doubts about our addition, that fine. Personally, I believe every program should be focused on proving their value to the conference on a weekly basis. I don't want to conference with programs that are just happy to be here. The new playoff system will probably get altered, but it will still have a spot for the AAC champ if we all push each other to be among the best conferences in the FBS.

You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

That an 8-5 team, even if taking a step back, should still be able to win a home game against a 4-8 team that didn't make any big splashes on their roster since last year.

Those 4 wins from last year:
UC Davis: FCS
Arizona: 5-7
UNLV: 5-7
Stanford: 3-9

Cal was a bad team by all measurements. Can you point to anything that would make them a decent team this year? Vegas has their O/U at 5.

What am I missing?

You neglected to respond to my points like Thelonious did so I will stick with his response. Take a chill pill pal.

(08-31-2023 09:14 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:04 AM)Ourland Wrote:  North Texas has a shot. They're at home at least. There should be a big crowd. I don't think Cal is bad at all for a private school. They recruit PAC talent. It's a toss up. Morris should have NT much improved in two years.

It was right to fire Litrell. He had to go. He had reached his ceiling

Agree 100%. He was almost a golden boy in 2017, but hadn't delivered.

Have you guys installed a defense of any kind, yet?

Our DC Matt Caponi was the DB's coach at Iowa St which has had a consistently good defense nationally in a conference known for explosive offenses. He's seen every variation of the spread you can think of.

I think if Spatival tries to air it out we're gonna have better chances. Now if they run it a lot with their stud RB? We might be in trouble. The secondary is the strength of our defense, and the LB corps is a massive question mark. DL Starters will be good, but depth could be an issue there as well.

(08-31-2023 09:58 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:56 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(08-30-2023 08:22 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  We are new around here and have not spent years amassing AAC level talent on our roster. Cal is favored in this game for a reason. Also, it would be undignified and tacky to proclaim superiority over anyone, when we have yet to do anything in this conference. I believe we can win, but will leave it at that.

If you have doubts about our addition, that fine. Personally, I believe every program should be focused on proving their value to the conference on a weekly basis. I don't want to conference with programs that are just happy to be here. The new playoff system will probably get altered, but it will still have a spot for the AAC champ if we all push each other to be among the best conferences in the FBS.

You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

That an 8-5 team, even if taking a step back, should still be able to win a home game against a 4-8 team that didn't make any big splashes on their roster since last year.

Those 4 wins from last year:
UC Davis: FCS
Arizona: 5-7
UNLV: 5-7
Stanford: 3-9

Cal was a bad team by all measurements. Can you point to anything that would make them a decent team this year? Vegas has their O/U at 5.

What am I missing?

You neglected to respond to my points like Thelonious did so I will stick with his response. Take a chill pill pal.

You asked a question. I answered it.

(08-31-2023 12:09 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:58 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:56 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:51 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:44 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  You haven't built an AAC roster and you have a new coach, yet you are picked to finish in the mid level of the conference by many people. Ive been seeing a lot of folks picking UNT to finish ahead of ECU.

If ECU were playing Cal this weekend, I would honestly be expecting a W.

I think UNT should expect no less.

Based on what do you believe ECU should/would beat Cal? ECU lost their entire offense including a 4 year starter and under contract NFL QB. I know there has been some good progress with the transfer portal but they are always an unknown especially with the entire offense being replaced.

I am not anti ECU by any means. I have been a fan for many years for multiple tie ins with friends and family but this is a complete rebuild with no idea how this is going to go until that first snap.

What am I missing?

That an 8-5 team, even if taking a step back, should still be able to win a home game against a 4-8 team that didn't make any big splashes on their roster since last year.

Those 4 wins from last year:
UC Davis: FCS
Arizona: 5-7
UNLV: 5-7
Stanford: 3-9

Cal was a bad team by all measurements. Can you point to anything that would make them a decent team this year? Vegas has their O/U at 5.

What am I missing?

You neglected to respond to my points like Thelonious did so I will stick with his response. Take a chill pill pal.

You asked a question. I answered it.

No you didn't but I have already moved on.

(08-31-2023 09:14 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:04 AM)Ourland Wrote:  North Texas has a shot. They're at home at least. There should be a big crowd. I don't think Cal is bad at all for a private school. They recruit PAC talent. It's a toss up. Morris should have NT much improved in two years.

It was right to fire Litrell. He had to go. He had reached his ceiling

Agree 100%. He was almost a golden boy in 2017, but hadn't delivered.

Have you guys installed a defense of any kind, yet?

Our starters are good. No depth though

I saw game threads popping up, so I went ahead and made this one ours. Can't wait to drive down to Denton tomorrow.

Uniforms for tomorrow's game against Cal.....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1697308379662758017

According to ESPN's game predictor, UNT has a 24.6 % chance of beating Cal as of this morning.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/ga.../401523991

Send'em to the ACC with a loss to the AAC!

Watching GameDay, and Corso and Herbstreit both picked North Texas to beat Cal. If I can find some video, I'll post it.

(09-02-2023 10:56 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  Watching GameDay, and Corso and Herbstreit both picked North Texas to beat Cal. If I can find some video, I'll post it.

Well, I’m with those fellers!

Cal scores first, but UNT has tied it up 7-7