(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:57 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:50 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Isn't adding Army just giving you yet another bad team in your league though? Ok, you get a few cents for the media deal but how many games does Army win regularly? It's basically adding yet another Charlotte competitively. I don't see how this is a win.

We could literally add Alabama and you would find a way to poo on it.

So, is it not the truth?

SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

(09-19-2023 10:26 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 06:21 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:50 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Isn't adding Army just giving you yet another bad team in your league though? Ok, you get a few cents for the media deal but how many games does Army win regularly? It's basically adding yet another Charlotte competitively. I don't see how this is a win.

They’ve won a lot of games recently, have a good coach in Monken. This is a PR add, national appeal. Let’s face it TV pays the bills and they like Army football. It brings class and prestige. Fans across the country.

Plus it’s a smart political move, any conference with Navy and Army football is not going to be dropped from the top level of college football. This is for all those who say the P2/3/4 will eventually break off.

It's a desperation move, but I feel you.

There is a reason that the AAC has been aggressive at courting Army for almost a decade. They have basically had a standing invite. Thats' hardly a 'desperation move'...

If you can't see the value in a national brand like Army... well bless your heart then...

(09-20-2023 02:25 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:57 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:50 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Isn't adding Army just giving you yet another bad team in your league though? Ok, you get a few cents for the media deal but how many games does Army win regularly? It's basically adding yet another Charlotte competitively. I don't see how this is a win.

We could literally add Alabama and you would find a way to poo on it.

So, is it not the truth?

SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

Your username is definitely a lie.

(09-17-2023 06:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 10:37 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 11:30 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Where are all of our Aresco naysayers?

Aresco is over his head.

You obviously never met the last 2 Big East commissioners.

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Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so. Who knew this was still going? Nothing is STILL happening.
The biggest news of them all will be what the PAC 2 will do.
I surmise this thread is continuing on because of Army.
Army, if gotten, would be a plus in the Aresco resume. Would be 1 for 15 or something like that. AND.....it's only Army! The 1 team that brings less to the table.in strengthening a conf than almost any MWC team not to mention the PAC 2. Remember....Army is Aresco's Fail Safe for failing on the big targets.
Army's only clout is its old history and it's a national brand.
Also remember...Army is only doing this..(if they are), because they think this must be a better way to get to the CFP's. Not because they are eager to join. They are not. That's why they haven't wanted any part of the AAC in the past. The AAC has always tried.
The scenery is and has been changing in college football in recent yrs. They are looking into a conf. The ONLY conf they would fit in in the G5 world would be the AAC. Another reason for the talks.
Aresco does have me scratching my head over how he gets around that Army-Navy game. Hard to imagine him getting an AAC piece of that game. I don't think you're supposed to f#$% with that game.........EVER.
Oh.....and.....it's only for football. Another drawback in an Army invite.
No complaints if he gets Army....but that is woefully short of anything he was blustering about in the beginning of all this.

It's as if Aresco promised you steak and now he's offering you a hamburger instead.
All you Aresco apologists will take it and flap your gums over this because it's the only morsel he's delivered........IF HE EVEN DOES!

(09-20-2023 04:21 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 06:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 10:37 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 11:30 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Where are all of our Aresco naysayers?

Aresco is over his head.

You obviously never met the last 2 Big East commissioners.

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Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so. Who knew this was still going? Nothing is STILL happening.
The biggest news of them all will be what the PAC 2 will do.
I surmise this thread is continuing on because of Army.
Army, if gotten, would be a plus in the Aresco resume. Would be 1 for 15 or something like that. AND.....it's only Army! The 1 team that brings less to the table.in strengthening a conf than almost any MWC team not to mention the PAC 2. Remember....Army is Aresco's Fail Safe for failing on the big targets.
Army's only clout is its old history and it's a national brand.
Also remember...Army is only doing this..(if they are), because they think this must be a better way to get to the CFP's. Not because they are eager to join. They are not. That's why they haven't wanted any part of the AAC in the past. The AAC has always tried.
The scenery is and has been changing in college football in recent yrs. They are looking into a conf. The ONLY conf they would fit in in the G5 world would be the AAC. Another reason for the talks.
Aresco does have me scratching my head over how he gets around that Army-Navy game. Hard to imagine him getting an AAC piece of that game. I don't think you're supposed to f#$% with that game.........EVER.
Oh.....and.....it's only for football. Another drawback in an Army invite.
No complaints if he gets Army....but that is woefully short of anything he was blustering about in the beginning of all this.

It's as if Aresco promised you steak and now he's offering you a hamburger instead.
All you Aresco apologists will take it and flap your gums over this because it's the only morsel he's delivered........IF HE EVEN DOES!

Meh 6 or 7, bit too long, lacked pace in some places, agenda is a bit obvious. Not bad though. Try and keep an eye on you, definitely some talent there.

(09-20-2023 02:59 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:26 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 06:21 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:50 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Isn't adding Army just giving you yet another bad team in your league though? Ok, you get a few cents for the media deal but how many games does Army win regularly? It's basically adding yet another Charlotte competitively. I don't see how this is a win.

They’ve won a lot of games recently, have a good coach in Monken. This is a PR add, national appeal. Let’s face it TV pays the bills and they like Army football. It brings class and prestige. Fans across the country.

Plus it’s a smart political move, any conference with Navy and Army football is not going to be dropped from the top level of college football. This is for all those who say the P2/3/4 will eventually break off.

It's a desperation move, but I feel you.

There is a reason that the AAC has been aggressive at courting Army for almost a decade. They have basically had a standing invite. Thats' hardly a 'desperation move'...

If you can't see the value in a national brand like Army... well bless your heart then...

(09-20-2023 03:36 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:25 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:57 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  We could literally add Alabama and you would find a way to poo on it.

So, is it not the truth?

SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

Your username is definitely a lie.

The name AlwaysPissAndVinegar might have hit a character limit.

(09-20-2023 05:24 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 03:36 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:25 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  So, is it not the truth?

SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

:lmfao:Your username is definitely a lie.

The name AlwaysPissAndVinegar might have hit a character limit.

And you'd still be losing to the Sunbelt. But hey, if that makes you feel good.

clt says let's get space force next!

(09-20-2023 04:21 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so.

Then go away. You're only "passing through" per your own statement, and we have enough trolls as it is.

(09-20-2023 02:25 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 10:24 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:57 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 03:50 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Isn't adding Army just giving you yet another bad team in your league though? Ok, you get a few cents for the media deal but how many games does Army win regularly? It's basically adding yet another Charlotte competitively. I don't see how this is a win.

We could literally add Alabama and you would find a way to poo on it.

So, is it not the truth?

SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

Totally false. The Big East/AAC has been after Army and their brand for a long time. You do not know what you are talking about Sunny-

As for the CUSA teams that is a totally separate issue. I would’ve gone for a mix of who we got and some Sun Belt teams but things did not go that way.

(09-20-2023 04:21 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 06:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 10:37 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 11:30 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Where are all of our Aresco naysayers?

Aresco is over his head.

You obviously never met the last 2 Big East commissioners.

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Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so. Who knew this was still going? Nothing is STILL happening.
The biggest news of them all will be what the PAC 2 will do.
I surmise this thread is continuing on because of Army.
Army, if gotten, would be a plus in the Aresco resume. Would be 1 for 15 or something like that. AND.....it's only Army! The 1 team that brings less to the table.in strengthening a conf than almost any MWC team not to mention the PAC 2. Remember....Army is Aresco's Fail Safe for failing on the big targets.
Army's only clout is its old history and it's a national brand.
Also remember...Army is only doing this..(if they are), because they think this must be a better way to get to the CFP's. Not because they are eager to join. They are not. That's why they haven't wanted any part of the AAC in the past. The AAC has always tried.
The scenery is and has been changing in college football in recent yrs. They are looking into a conf. The ONLY conf they would fit in in the G5 world would be the AAC. Another reason for the talks.
Aresco does have me scratching my head over how he gets around that Army-Navy game. Hard to imagine him getting an AAC piece of that game. I don't think you're supposed to f#$% with that game.........EVER.
Oh.....and.....it's only for football. Another drawback in an Army invite.
No complaints if he gets Army....but that is woefully short of anything he was blustering about in the beginning of all this.

It's as if Aresco promised you steak and now he's offering you a hamburger instead.
All you Aresco apologists will take it and flap your gums over this because it's the only morsel he's delivered........IF HE EVEN DOES!

Aresco had a damn fine conference but realignment cost the AAC: Cincy, UCF, Houston, UConn, and now SMU. Through all that he managed to keep the conference and it's ESPN contract going. I like the guy...esp if pulls Army football out of his hat.

Army is a bigger "brand" than SMU. All of you who are bemoaning then loss of SMU realize the only reason they are getting "called up" is because they can subsidize the teams that matter, right? As long as the American has Army and Navy, it puts them ahead of any other G5 conference.

(09-20-2023 04:21 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 06:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 10:37 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(09-16-2023 11:30 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Where are all of our Aresco naysayers?

Aresco is over his head.

You obviously never met the last 2 Big East commissioners.

_________________________________________________________
Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so. Who knew this was still going? Nothing is STILL happening.
The biggest news of them all will be what the PAC 2 will do.
I surmise this thread is continuing on because of Army.
Army, if gotten, would be a plus in the Aresco resume. Would be 1 for 15 or something like that. AND.....it's only Army! The 1 team that brings less to the table.in strengthening a conf than almost any MWC team not to mention the PAC 2. Remember....Army is Aresco's Fail Safe for failing on the big targets.
Army's only clout is its old history and it's a national brand.
Also remember...Army is only doing this..(if they are), because they think this must be a better way to get to the CFP's. Not because they are eager to join. They are not. That's why they haven't wanted any part of the AAC in the past. The AAC has always tried.
The scenery is and has been changing in college football in recent yrs. They are looking into a conf. The ONLY conf they would fit in in the G5 world would be the AAC. Another reason for the talks.
Aresco does have me scratching my head over how he gets around that Army-Navy game. Hard to imagine him getting an AAC piece of that game. I don't think you're supposed to f#$% with that game.........EVER.
Oh.....and.....it's only for football. Another drawback in an Army invite.
No complaints if he gets Army....but that is woefully short of anything he was blustering about in the beginning of all this.

It's as if Aresco promised you steak and now he's offering you a hamburger instead.
All you Aresco apologists will take it and flap your gums over this because it's the only morsel he's delivered........IF HE EVEN DOES!

Your first instinct was correct. Yoa should have remained out of the thread. You have nothing to contribute.

Seurat and ToddRodge related?

(09-20-2023 05:27 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 05:24 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 03:36 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-20-2023 02:25 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-19-2023 02:20 PM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  SMU has not won a bowl game in the last 10 years. Army is 4-1 in bowl games over the past 10 years. Army is a good football team with national appeal. TV wants Army and will pay for it. Solid add by the AAC.

It’s pretty simple to understand for most-

It's simple to understand for you folks because you're in a position of desperation. Literally no one else wants Army regardless of the extra 3 viewers you may get. Wasn't this the same path you guys took with the CUSA teams you just added? That didn't work either.

:lmfao:Your username is definitely a lie.

The name AlwaysPissAndVinegar might have hit a character limit.

And you'd still be losing to the Sunbelt. But hey, if that makes you feel good.

I suppose we could go with AlwaysLost too since you can’t seem to find your conference message board.

Memphis 37
Arkansas State 3

(09-20-2023 05:46 PM)msu35 Wrote:  [quote='seurat92' pid='19160144' dateline='1695244877']
Whoa.......
I gave up on this thread when nothing was happening. That's why I'm responding now from page 85 or so.

Then go away. You're only "passing through" per your own statement, and we have enough trolls as it is.
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Yeah....I'm passing by. For realignment.
When all this bs is hashed out I'm out of all of these boards.

And for you, MSU, ol' buddy.....
All I was doing was answering a question.
Someone wanted to know where the Aresco detractors were now.
They are still here but there is nothing happening but hopes and dreams right now.
It would behoove anyone to stop talking any kind of Aresco trash just because he might get Army.
That's why I left for a while. Left all the boards behind. Never opened this page for, Idk?,..weeks?., basically,
I just came, "passing by", tonight and decided to answer somebody's question.
The AAC is in my neighborhood. I want the best G5 around. It has been chopped down to........this. God help this conf if the PAC 2 decide to rebuild.
Hey....but he might get that football and baske......opps.......that football powerhouse Army.
Had the 4 most desirable MWC teams all but inked & wanting to come. Would have been a great conf. I was hoping for that. Would have gotten the 2 PAC teams also if they had those 4 teams.