i'm in the market for a parking pass (P Lot preferred) for Bucknell.

(08-20-2023 08:31 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2023 07:47 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-19-2023 06:46 AM)Xeonon Wrote:  Whoever is an admin of the ticket exchange group denied me. No idea why, I typed “I understand” to each of the agreements. Lol

Which group? There's two. I'm one of the admins on JMU Nation Duke2Duke Tix. The other group is JMU Nation Ticket Exchange and Carol Benassi runs that group.

Names seem awfully similar. Which one frowns on scalping?

We, Duke2duke Tix, clearly state the group is not there for people to be seeking a profit. We've got a few more members, but pretty close. She reals people over through her main sight and I'm fairly certain she started her ticket exchange after she saw what Duke2duke was doing.

Interesting:

Quote: Dear Duke Club Member:

You are receiving this email as a JMU Athletics supporter in order to provide information regarding an exclusive premium opportunity for the home opener vs Bucknell on September 2.

We currently have availability of the East Side Box for this game only. The East Side Box is a 36-person private suite style space with parking, private bathroom, and ability for catering through Aramark on game day. This space is located on top of the east side stands with access via the stairs in section 5 of the stadium.

We have provided photos of the space in order to give you an idea of what the area looks like. As a Duke Club supporter we have provided you the chance to submit an interest form to purchase this opportunity. We will follow through with interested individuals on a first come first serve basis until sold. We will contact everyone based on submission date and time. We will be offering the space for $6,000 not including food and beverage that would be coordinated directly with Aramark.

East Side Box Interest Form

For further questions please respond to this email and the ticket office staff will reach back out with details.

Go Dukes!

It looks like you're in an airplane with those windows! $6,000 to watch a game through that?

(08-23-2023 10:33 PM)Bill Wrote:  It looks like you're in an airplane with those windows! $6,000 to watch a game through that?

And watch the people on the other side having all the fun while you're bottled up inside the crows nest like you're calling plays down to the sideline?

What’s funny is this most likely means Bucknell is sending zero administration to this game.

(08-24-2023 06:10 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  What’s funny is this most likely means Bucknell is sending zero administration to this game.

Bingo.

(08-24-2023 06:10 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  What’s funny is this most likely means Bucknell is sending zero administration to this game.

Im not surprised, they’re getting less than $200k for their troubles, they know they’ll get smoked and they’re not exactly a football school. With a 6pm kickoff I’m guessing they’re bussing right home after the game too.

(08-21-2023 11:27 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-20-2023 08:31 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2023 07:47 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-19-2023 06:46 AM)Xeonon Wrote:  Whoever is an admin of the ticket exchange group denied me. No idea why, I typed “I understand” to each of the agreements. Lol

Which group? There's two. I'm one of the admins on JMU Nation Duke2Duke Tix. The other group is JMU Nation Ticket Exchange and Carol Benassi runs that group.

Names seem awfully similar. Which one frowns on scalping?

We, Duke2duke Tix, clearly state the group is not there for people to be seeking a profit. We've got a few more members, but pretty close. She reals people over through her main sight and I'm fairly certain she started her ticket exchange after she saw what Duke2duke was doing.

I would steer clear of the group that is run by Queen Carol....some dude is still waiting for some socks I think.

The game should not been have been on the schedule. The FCS teams we contract with, if not in VA, should be at the minimum a team which sees the playoffs every once in awhile.

No need to start another scheduling conversation, we're new to FBS and needing deals with our back against a wall. I get it.

(08-24-2023 10:30 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  The game should not been have been on the schedule. The FCS teams we contract with, if not in VA, should be at the minimum a team which sees the playoffs every once in awhile.

No need to start another scheduling conversation, we're new to FBS and needing deals with our back against a wall. I get it.

To be fair, didn't we have Bucknell scheduled way before we went FBS?

(08-24-2023 10:42 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 10:30 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  The game should not been have been on the schedule. The FCS teams we contract with, if not in VA, should be at the minimum a team which sees the playoffs every once in awhile.

No need to start another scheduling conversation, we're new to FBS and needing deals with our back against a wall. I get it.

To be fair, didn't we have Bucknell scheduled way before we went FBS?

There’s also a cost and availability component of this.

In state teams like RU and W&M are booked years in advance and likely paid more by UVA, etc. Our budget is a factor, especially during transition.
May be less of a factor once payouts increase in future years.

RU is booked for something like the next 10 years on buy games, so anyone looking for that will be disappointed. Also guessing a lot of FCS playoff caliber teams are looking for games where they’d have a fighting chance to win, and they also may take a P5 payday over what we offer.

In short - it’s far more complicated than wishing that it were so. In case people forget, we had a heckuva time trying to get ANYONE (FCS or FBS) to play us during covid without conference games to draw on. And the Spring season had every conference team trying to bail on us too.

(08-24-2023 11:20 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 10:42 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 10:30 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  The game should not been have been on the schedule. The FCS teams we contract with, if not in VA, should be at the minimum a team which sees the playoffs every once in awhile.

No need to start another scheduling conversation, we're new to FBS and needing deals with our back against a wall. I get it.

To be fair, didn't we have Bucknell scheduled way before we went FBS?

There’s also a cost and availability component of this.

In state teams like RU and W&M are booked years in advance and likely paid more by UVA, etc. Our budget is a factor, especially during transition.
May be less of a factor once payouts increase in future years.

RU is booked for something like the next 10 years on buy games, so anyone looking for that will be disappointed. Also guessing a lot of FCS playoff caliber teams are looking for games where they’d have a fighting chance to win, and they also may take a P5 payday over what we offer.

In short - it’s far more complicated than wishing that it were so. In case people forget, we had a heckuva time trying to get ANYONE (FCS or FBS) to play us during covid without conference games to draw on. And the Spring season had every conference team trying to bail on us too.

Amen....this concept that folks have that Jeff Bourne just has a magic White Board where he can just schedule any OOC games he wants on a whim is just hilarious.

It takes two to tango as they say and even if JMU wants the game that does not mean 'x' opponent does.

As far as former CAA opponents, based on how JMU was treated the last few years there.....I for one hope JMU never schedules any of them in payday games. I don't want to pay 1 damn cent to UD/W&M/Rich/Villanova/Elon/UNH/etc........there are plenty of other FCS teams we can pay for that game.

Does the quality of oppontent matter for FCS games for SOS, i.e. is it FCS is FCS is FCS or would your SOS be better playing a Montana, SDSU etc over a Bucknell or Robert Morris?

(08-24-2023 11:57 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 11:20 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 10:42 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 10:30 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  The game should not been have been on the schedule. The FCS teams we contract with, if not in VA, should be at the minimum a team which sees the playoffs every once in awhile.

No need to start another scheduling conversation, we're new to FBS and needing deals with our back against a wall. I get it.

To be fair, didn't we have Bucknell scheduled way before we went FBS?

There’s also a cost and availability component of this.

In state teams like RU and W&M are booked years in advance and likely paid more by UVA, etc. Our budget is a factor, especially during transition.
May be less of a factor once payouts increase in future years.

RU is booked for something like the next 10 years on buy games, so anyone looking for that will be disappointed. Also guessing a lot of FCS playoff caliber teams are looking for games where they’d have a fighting chance to win, and they also may take a P5 payday over what we offer.

In short - it’s far more complicated than wishing that it were so. In case people forget, we had a heckuva time trying to get ANYONE (FCS or FBS) to play us during covid without conference games to draw on. And the Spring season had every conference team trying to bail on us too.

Amen....this concept that folks have that Jeff Bourne just has a magic White Board where he can just schedule any OOC games he wants on a whim is just hilarious.

It takes two to tango as they say and even if JMU wants the game that does not mean 'x' opponent does.

As far as former CAA opponents, based on how JMU was treated the last few years there.....I for one hope JMU never schedules any of them in payday games. I don't want to pay 1 damn cent to UD/W&M/Rich/Villanova/Elon/UNH/etc........there are plenty of other FCS teams we can pay for that game.

I really hope we don't play any CAA school for a long, long time. But if we did, I would understand why. Perhaps we could talk down that payday due to the way they treated us on the way out.
If ODU is any indication, they have only played one CAA school in football (that I saw), and that was Albany. I don't remember what year Albany came into the CAA, but perhaps they weren't in the conference at the same time. Most of the FCS games that ODU has scheduled were Norfolk State and Hampton (and those make perfect sense). However, now that Hampton is officially CAA, no idea what kind of impact that would have.
Coming from JMU's standpoint, perhaps its a similar thing: Hampton and JMU were never in the conference at the same time so perhaps they get a pass. Honestly, I would be fine with that.
But.... if we had to play one of them, I say give them zero mercy. Leave starters or 2nd string guys in there even if they can't stop them.

(08-24-2023 11:58 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  Does the quality of oppontent matter for FCS games for SOS, i.e. is it FCS is FCS is FCS or would your SOS be better playing a Montana, SDSU etc over a Bucknell or Robert Morris?

I’m pretty sure from a FBS perspective, it’s pretty much a complete non-factor. If you lose however, that would be a problem.

Many teams (most?) have the FCS game, and it’s for the most part considered a gimme warmup game. Heck, Alabama played Mercer recently, and has them again in 2024. I’m sure their fans love that game too.

From a SOS perspective, maybe you could improve it slightly by buying a home game against a SHSU or FIU type team. That’s what some of the P5 do, schedule a weak G5 at home instead of FCS. The perception there would be better than playing and potentially losing to FCS Montana. But that’s also a serious cash outlay, typically $1M+ ballpark, not 200-400k

(08-24-2023 02:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 11:58 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  Does the quality of oppontent matter for FCS games for SOS, i.e. is it FCS is FCS is FCS or would your SOS be better playing a Montana, SDSU etc over a Bucknell or Robert Morris?

I’m pretty sure from a FBS perspective, it’s pretty much a complete non-factor. If you lose however, that would be a problem.

Many teams (most?) have the FCS game, and it’s for the most part considered a gimme warmup game. Heck, Alabama played Mercer recently, and has them again in 2024. I’m sure their fans love that game too.

From a SOS perspective, maybe you could improve it slightly by buying a home game against a SHSU or FIU type team. That’s what some of the P5 do, schedule a weak G5 at home instead of FCS. The perception there would be better than playing and potentially losing to FCS Montana. But that’s also a serious cash outlay, typically $1M+ ballpark, not 200-400k

Right I guess what I'm getting at is that if it doesn't matter if you played Bryant or NDSU it affects your SOS just the same then the smart money is to play a blowout opponent so you can guarantee a W, rest your starters and hopefully minimize risk of injury. It only makes sense to play a tough FCS if it is the difference between getting those computer SOS marks to help push you over the top for the 6th highest ranked conference champ for the CFP.

(08-24-2023 06:41 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 06:10 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  What’s funny is this most likely means Bucknell is sending zero administration to this game.

Im not surprised, they’re getting less than $200k for their troubles, they know they’ll get smoked and they’re not exactly a football school. With a 6pm kickoff I’m guessing they’re bussing right home after the game too.

They might not wait until "after the game." They may bolt at halftime.

(08-24-2023 04:22 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 02:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 11:58 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  Does the quality of oppontent matter for FCS games for SOS, i.e. is it FCS is FCS is FCS or would your SOS be better playing a Montana, SDSU etc over a Bucknell or Robert Morris?

I’m pretty sure from a FBS perspective, it’s pretty much a complete non-factor. If you lose however, that would be a problem.

Many teams (most?) have the FCS game, and it’s for the most part considered a gimme warmup game. Heck, Alabama played Mercer recently, and has them again in 2024. I’m sure their fans love that game too.

From a SOS perspective, maybe you could improve it slightly by buying a home game against a SHSU or FIU type team. That’s what some of the P5 do, schedule a weak G5 at home instead of FCS. The perception there would be better than playing and potentially losing to FCS Montana. But that’s also a serious cash outlay, typically $1M+ ballpark, not 200-400k

Right I guess what I'm getting at is that if it doesn't matter if you played Bryant or NDSU it affects your SOS just the same then the smart money is to play a blowout opponent so you can guarantee a W, rest your starters and hopefully minimize risk of injury. It only makes sense to play a tough FCS if it is the difference between getting those computer SOS marks to help push you over the top for the 6th highest ranked conference champ for the CFP.

I doubt the SOS of FCS teams is rated or given a second thought in this. Maybe it bumps Sagarin number slightly, but not clear the committee cares what Sagarin has to say. CFP committee is primarily looking at teams FBS resume and going to ignore the FCS games.

IF there was a benefit to playing strong FCS teams, then schools like NDSU would have an easier time scheduling those games. They face all the same trouble we did in scheduling.

(08-24-2023 05:56 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 06:41 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(08-24-2023 06:10 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  What’s funny is this most likely means Bucknell is sending zero administration to this game.

Im not surprised, they’re getting less than $200k for their troubles, they know they’ll get smoked and they’re not exactly a football school. With a 6pm kickoff I’m guessing they’re bussing right home after the game too.

They might not wait until "after the game." They may bolt at halftime.

Maybe let them borrow a few of our defensive guys to keep it close and keep the game going for 60 minutes.