https://www.deseret.com/2023/8/11/238290...for-a-time

This is interesting, as I had read elsewhere they needed 6 members to maintain NCAA status and tourney bids. Not sure if there is a grace period there also.

They probably still need to make decisions rather quickly if they want to make it easier for AAC and MWC teams to leave with lower exit fees.

Thing is with no signed TV contract, if (big if) they want to stick together, they may find an alignment that makes ok money and can get it done but it might not pay to leave immediately money. Then playing 2024-25 short-handed may be the best option. Tough it out, let the incomings get a lower exit fee and then ramp back up in 2025-26 or even 2026-27 at the extreme end.

I wonder if Apple is still on board for the remaining schools and willing to pay decent for new AAC or MWC schools. The exit fees are still a lot of money but there may be schools wanting to leave for the ghost of a power conference and willing to pay. If they already know who they want in the new PAC then I’m sure those schools will try to work out OOC matchups in all sports for two years until they can join.

Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

(08-12-2023 08:34 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

Or, the 2 PAC schools could join the MWC for no exit fees.

(08-12-2023 08:32 AM)TealNation Wrote:  Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

I quit being a "Real college football fan" back when they decided my school wasn't a "Real college football" team. Let 'em die.

(08-12-2023 08:46 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:32 AM)TealNation Wrote:  Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

I quit being a "Real college football fan" back when they decided my school wasn't a "Real college football" team. Let 'em die.

Yeah, remember who your friends are.

(08-12-2023 08:46 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:32 AM)TealNation Wrote:  Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

I quit being a "Real college football fan" back when they decided my school wasn't a "Real college football" team. Let 'em die.

While I am nostalgic of the BCS era, schools like Boise State and TCU were teased to get a national championship shot but couldn't get over the hump no matter what. Those type of teams could've potentially made some noise in an expanded playoffs.

(08-12-2023 08:44 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:34 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

Or, the 2 PAC schools could join the MWC for no exit fees.

There's still 4 PAC schools. Efforts to get Stanford & Cal somewhere else have been unsuccessful.

(08-12-2023 08:32 AM)TealNation Wrote:  Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

Hmmm. Define “real” college football fans.

Conferences go through transitions. Sometimes they disappear. The PAC has had an extraordinarily good run, but circumstances have changed. The PAC is now history, and we can all recall its contribution to college football as much as we like.

Still, college football will survive without the PAC’s participation as a member of the so-called “P5”. On the upside, there’s now more room for the SBC to shine.

(08-12-2023 11:07 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:32 AM)TealNation Wrote:  Real college football fans should like to see this happen. I don't want to see the PAC die. Even through all of the negligence, they are a big part of CFB history.

Hmmm. Define “real” college football fans.

Conferences go through transitions. Sometimes they disappear. The PAC has had an extraordinarily good run, but circumstances have changed. The PAC is now history, and we can all recall its contribution to college football as much as we like.

Still, college football will survive without the PAC’s participation as a member of the so-called “P5”. On the upside, there’s now more room for the SBC to shine.

Ah, yes . . . . The Biggest Midget in the Room argument.

If you really think that what’s going on at the “P whatever” level, and with the Networks is good for the G5 in the long run, you ain’t paying attention.

(08-12-2023 10:51 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:44 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:34 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

Or, the 2 PAC schools could join the MWC for no exit fees.

There's still 4 PAC schools. Efforts to get Stanford & Cal somewhere else have been unsuccessful.

Listening to their admins, WSU & OSU are ready to merge with the MWC. Cal & Stanford not being able to get out of the way may be the glue that holds all 4 together and brings about a rebuild. How that works is anybody’s guess, but now they’ve brought in Oliver Luck as a “consultant” to do the Pac commissioner’s job.

G5 realignment is going to be interesting if PAC-4 raids 4-5 from AAC and a 3-4 from MWC.

(08-12-2023 02:48 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  G5 realignment is going to be interesting if PAC-4 raids 4-5 from AAC and a 3-4 from MWC.

They’re not raiding anybody from the MWC any time soon due to the exit fee. For now, they just need to add enough to make scheduling and a tolerable media contract viable. It’s that second part that’s gonna be the booger.

(08-12-2023 02:35 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:51 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:44 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:34 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

Or, the 2 PAC schools could join the MWC for no exit fees.

There's still 4 PAC schools. Efforts to get Stanford & Cal somewhere else have been unsuccessful.

Listening to their admins, WSU & OSU are ready to merge with the MWC. Cal & Stanford not being able to get out of the way may be the glue that holds all 4 together and brings about a rebuild. How that works is anybody’s guess, but now they’ve brought in Oliver Luck as a “consultant” to do the Pac commissioner’s job.

OSU just said they are trying to save the PAC.

(08-12-2023 03:08 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 02:35 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:51 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:44 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 08:34 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  Add the AAC schools for 2024, then the MWC in 2025 (or 2026). Would result in the MWC schools paying a $17M exit fee, instead of $34M.

Or, the 2 PAC schools could join the MWC for no exit fees.

There's still 4 PAC schools. Efforts to get Stanford & Cal somewhere else have been unsuccessful.

Listening to their admins, WSU & OSU are ready to merge with the MWC. Cal & Stanford not being able to get out of the way may be the glue that holds all 4 together and brings about a rebuild. How that works is anybody’s guess, but now they’ve brought in Oliver Luck as a “consultant” to do the Pac commissioner’s job.

OSU just said they are trying to save the PAC.

They aren't walking away from their A5 status, CFP autobid and Basketball Units and anyone that thinks they are is delusional.

David Hookstead of Outkick wrote: "During a University of California Board of Regents meeting Wednesday, it was revealed the PAC-12 will lose $150 million in annual media revenue with the Trojans leaving, according to Stewart Mandel. The financial impact of USC leaving the PAC-12 is also a huge win for the Big Ten. The Trojans and Bruins joining the B1G in a couple years is why the Big Ten’s new media deal is unbelievably big."

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/c...330866002/

I can't help but think it's only a matter of time until the Pac-4 figure everything out and we begin hearing that the rumored AAC schools (Tulane, SMU, Rice) are leaving.