This is from David Teel.

The last line I posted below is interesting.

https://richmond.com/sports/college/acc-...2af12.html

I remain skeptical, but less so than at week’s start. As one source said: “The other day I would have said no way. Today I would say a strong maybe.”

(I was able to read the first time. Then a paywall popped up. If you use an iPhone or iPad switch to the reader as it loads and the article will be available without ads.)

I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

bridge the divide ...

HOW WAS THE PLAY MRS LINCOLN

(08-11-2023 09:01 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

bridge the divide ...

HOW WAS THE PLAY MRS LINCOLN

Any team that joins the Big Ten is also signing up for games in CA... and OR, and WA, and MN, and IA, and NE, and IL...

That argument carries ZERO wait!

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

There would only be three home ACC games with ND a year, right? Would a FL or CA team ever play @ND in this plan? I assume ND doesn't want to go to CA if they have a USC away game the same year.

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

Does Navy add Maryland back as a new state for ACCN ?

(08-11-2023 09:04 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 09:01 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

bridge the divide ...

HOW WAS THE PLAY MRS LINCOLN

Any team that joins the Big Ten is also signing up for games in CA... and OR, and WA, and MN, and IA, and NE, and IL...

That argument carries ZERO wait!

Palo Alto -> Syracuse
Palo Alto -> Boston
Palo Alto -> Pittsburgh
Palo Alto -> Blacksburg
Palo Alto -> Charlottesville
Palo Alto -> Chapel Hill
Palo Alto -> Raleigh
Palo Alto -> Durham
Palo Alto -> Winston Salem
Palo Alto -> Clemson
Palo Alto -> Atlanta
Palo Alto -> Louisville
Palo Alto -> Tallahassee
Palo Alto -> Miami

as you sit in your La-z-boy, boy ...

DON’T KILL MY VIBE

(08-11-2023 09:05 AM)swardy76 Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

There would only be three home ACC games with ND a year, right? Would a FL or CA team ever play @ND in this plan? I assume ND doesn't want to go to CA if they have a USC away game the same year.

Yes - no different from now. Currently ND alternates between this:
one year host Stanford, then @USC
next year host USC, then @Stanford

Could do the exact same rotation with FSU and Miami if that makes it more palatable to ND (I don't think the ACC has a lot of teams that move the needle for ND, but those two probably would).

I don’t think FSU could do a decacto 9th conference game vs ND, but perhaps Miami could.

(08-11-2023 09:13 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 08:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I've run the numbers a couple of times. If the ACC admits Stanford, Cal AND SMU, with the partial shares, ACCN subs, and possible (small) bump for late Saturday night games, we're probably talking an extra $6M each for current ACC schools. No, that's' not "game-changing" insofar as the SEC is about to get a $16M/school bump from its new TV contract. But falling $10M further behind is certainly better than $16M - as long as the length of the contract, exit fee, etc. don't change, I see no downside besides travel - and that can be mitigated, too.

I still say keep the ND/Stanford series separate, or else change the contract to read 1 ND game in CA, 1 in FL, and 4 spread over the rest of the ACC - that's probably worth another $1M per school, and it makes ESPN happy. Pull in Navy as football-only for the 18th FB member and do the same and you could see a $2M/school boost without affecting Notre Dame's schedule one bit (other than guaranteeing a game with FSU or Miami every year, which I think makes sense for the ACC as well).

So, potential for $6M minimum, $8M with a little cooperation (but no sacrifice) from the Irish.

Does Navy add Maryland back as a new state for ACCN ?

Yes.

Just add SMU and Stanford


To hell with Cal

(08-11-2023 02:57 PM)GoWulfPak Wrote:  Just add SMU and Stanford


To hell with Cal

Look at it this way

By 2036 it's going to be all different

Cal sucks but both schools definitely help carry Northern California

(08-11-2023 01:15 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I don’t think FSU could do a decacto 9th conference game vs ND, but perhaps Miami could.

Who said 9th conference game? FSU has been scheduling 2 non-conference games every year against P5 opponents: one vs. Florida, the other against either Notre Dame or some other team - like LSU this year. All I'm saying is there could be a deal where you play Notre Dame every other year, still leaving opportunities to play LSU or whoever in the other half.

So was there another ACC meeting today or going to be one this evening? That was the rumor from media that they were sitting down again today.

Wonder if ACC folks not leaking this time around as it looked like a majorly unsuccessful circus this week so far.