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More fun with rigged ANTI ACC estimates
https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/navigat...-five.html

You will see that Navigate estimated the P-5 revenues for 2022 as follows with the actual number in bold.

B10 58M 57.2 M
SEC 54.3M 49.8 M
ACC 30.9 M 39.4 M
B12 40.6 M 43.5 M
P12 34.4 M 37.35 M

The Big 10 was ever so slightly overestimated.

The SEC was overestimated by 4.5 M or roughly 9%
The B12 was underestimated by 2.9M or roughly 7%
The P12 was underestimated by 3 M or roughly 9%

The ACC was underestimated by 8.5 M or underestimated by a whopping 28%.

Navigate then sallies forth to make long term estimates on this bases. Mistake or intentional disinformation?
08-08-2023 04:56 PM
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RE: More fun with rigged ANTI ACC estimates
(08-08-2023 04:56 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/navigat...-five.html

You will see that Navigate estimated the P-5 revenues for 2022 as follows with the actual number in bold.

B10 58M 57.2 M
SEC 54.3M 49.8 M
ACC 30.9 M 39.4 M
B12 40.6 M 43.5 M
P12 34.4 M 37.35 M

The Big 10 was ever so slightly overestimated.

The SEC was overestimated by 4.5 M or roughly 9%
The B12 was underestimated by 2.9M or roughly 7%
The P12 was underestimated by 3 M or roughly 9%

The ACC was underestimated by 8.5 M or underestimated by a whopping 28%.

Navigate then sallies forth to make long term estimates on this bases. Mistake or intentional disinformation?

Good catch! Too many ACC fans are buying this narrative at face value without checking the numbers. I've been doing this for 11+ years and it's always the same story: every conference's revenue is estimated, let's say, "more favorably" than the ACC. These guys know the ACC is a real threat to the SEC and the Big Ten when it comes to winning national championships, and they don't want that!
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RE: More fun with rigged ANTI ACC estimates
One critical aspects of the Big 12 payout is that it distributes its CFP and Sugar Bowl money among 10 schools rather than 14 schools as the ACC does or 16 schools as the future Big 12 will. Further, the Orange Bowl payout to the ACC has been lower than the Sugar Bowl payment to the Big 12.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is not a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $100 million, which translates to $10 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $6 million per school.

For comparison, in years that the Orange Bowl is not a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $90 million, which translates to $6.4 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $4.3 million per school.

It seems almost certain that the ACC and Big 12 will receive equivalent distributions from the CFP. This will eliminate the CFP/NY6 per school revenue gap that has existed between the conferences.
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RE: More fun with rigged ANTI ACC estimates
(08-09-2023 10:04 AM)orangefan Wrote:  One critical aspects of the Big 12 payout is that it distributes its CFP and Sugar Bowl money among 10 schools rather than 14 schools as the ACC does or 16 schools as the future Big 12 will. Further, the Orange Bowl payout to the ACC has been lower than the Sugar Bowl payment to the Big 12.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is not a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $100 million, which translates to $10 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $6 million per school.

For comparison, in years that the Orange Bowl is not a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $90 million, which translates to $6.4 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $4.3 million per school.

It seems almost certain that the ACC and Big 12 will receive equivalent distributions from the CFP. This will eliminate the CFP/NY6 per school revenue gap that has existed between the conferences.

Hasn't a good portion of their distribution also come from exit fees?
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RE: More fun with rigged ANTI ACC estimates
(08-09-2023 02:48 PM)krux Wrote:  
(08-09-2023 10:04 AM)orangefan Wrote:  One critical aspects of the Big 12 payout is that it distributes its CFP and Sugar Bowl money among 10 schools rather than 14 schools as the ACC does or 16 schools as the future Big 12 will. Further, the Orange Bowl payout to the ACC has been lower than the Sugar Bowl payment to the Big 12.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is not a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $100 million, which translates to $10 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the Big 12 has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $6 million per school.

For comparison, in years that the Orange Bowl is not a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $90 million, which translates to $6.4 million per school.

In years that the Sugar Bowl is a semifinal, the ACC has received roughly $60 million, which translates to $4.3 million per school.

It seems almost certain that the ACC and Big 12 will receive equivalent distributions from the CFP. This will eliminate the CFP/NY6 per school revenue gap that has existed between the conferences.

Hasn't a good portion of their distribution also come from exit fees?

No, but it will next year and the year after. Bowl money was the old B12's bread and butter.

B12 Bowl money for the Playoff, NY6, Alamo, and game with the ACC:

22 - $134 M or 13.4 m ACC $8.2 Each -5 M
21 - $128 M 0r 12.8 m ACC $6.3 Each - 6 M
20 - $92 M or 9.2 m ACC $8.3 Each -1 M
19 - $128 M or 12.8 m ACC $8.4 Each - 4.5 M

On a three year cycle the old B12 was making an average of $4 m more per year off bowls but like Orange alluded to $2.4 million a year of that is difference between a 10 way split of the Sugar Bowl versus a 14 way split of the Orange Bowl.

Both conferences get a base of 74 m from the playoff.
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